So I went to trade my H3, again, and this time they came down one thousand dollars on the trade-in value supported with all kinds of print outs from various sources. We were three thousand dollars apart and they would not come down on the price of the SSR I wanted. The sales person said they could not give me more on my Hummer because it is no longer being manufactured.
Now what is wrong with this picture? They drop my value because the vehicle is no longer being made but did they drop their price on the SSR? Did they forget that it is no longer being manufactured???
You forget one important part of this equation, grasshopper!!! Only the dealer is suppose to win !!!!
Traded 2 cars in the past 2 years. The offers were 3- $5000 off. They came up to "fair trade value" with some persistence. Have a reasonable figure in mind and stick to it. Car sales people are good...real good. They will stare you in the eye and tell you how worthless your Trade In is.
They will piss on a customer and say it's rain water....oops I'm getting carried away.
Dealers are only going to give you the least amount possible. If you want the most $$ for your vehicle sell it privately. Then you can buy that SSR of your choice. Cash is still king.
My SSR: 05 slingshot 6 spd-gone...need replacement
dealers are there to make money.....just like you all do when you go to work! WE are all different in reasons why WE might not give you what you want for your trade, i would rather have a SSR on my lots than A H3 cause we dont get much action on hummer products but other stores and places might do better with them so it depends on who your trading with. the dealer next door might give you 2000 more but does he have what you want to trade for?
My SSR: Slingshot Yellow VIN 20778 Born 05 May 2005 (05/05/05)
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Originally Posted by Thumper
Dealers are only going to give you the least amount possible. If you want the most $$ for your vehicle sell it privately. Then you can buy that SSR of your choice. Cash is still king.
My SSR: '03 RED vin1337, '06(lastoneinblack) vin 24107..Sadly sold '04UV,'05SILVER,'06PACBLU FPR
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Originally Posted by nuzzo
dealers are there to make money.....just like you all do when you go to work! WE are all different in reasons why WE might not give you what you want for your trade, i would rather have a SSR on my lots than A H3 cause we dont get much action on hummer products but other stores and places might do better with them so it depends on who your trading with. the dealer next door might give you 2000 more but does he have what you want to trade for?
Sorry if you are a car salesman and were offended by some sarcasm. But can you see the irony of a dealer saying that the trade in is less valueable because it is a "discontinued" model, yet the vehicle you want to buy is worth the asking price, even though IT is also discontinued? Please, this is funny, and it clearly reflects poor salesmanship AT THAT ONE PETICULAR DEALER
dealers are there to make money.....just like you all do when you go to work! WE are all different in reasons why WE might not give you what you want for your trade, i would rather have a SSR on my lots than A H3 cause we dont get much action on hummer products but other stores and places might do better with them so it depends on who your trading with. the dealer next door might give you 2000 more but does he have what you want to trade for?
Good points and I agree.
When I purchased my SSR that I had searched for I refused to give the dealer my '02 Avalanche for they trade-in price they offered. The sales lady was very nice and said that she would guarantee her offer for 30 days if I couldn't sell my Avalanche for more than she was offering. I bought the SSR outright and yep, 28 days later I went back to the dealer dropped off the Avalanche.
I truly hope they made a few bucks on the Avalanche 'cause I couldn't sell it myself for the amount they gave me.
My SSR: Slingshot Yellow VIN 20778 Born 05 May 2005 (05/05/05)
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Originally Posted by nuzzo
dealers are there to make money.....just like you all do when you go to work! WE are all different in reasons why WE might not give you what you want for your trade, i would rather have a SSR on my lots than A H3 cause we dont get much action on hummer products but other stores and places might do better with them so it depends on who your trading with. the dealer next door might give you 2000 more but does he have what you want to trade for?
, Nuzzo . . . makes sense to me.
Thankfully, you don't run your business the same way as the IDIOTS in Washington run our country.
I'm not a fan of dealerships but in Florida you only pay sales tax (6.5%) on the difference between the new vehicle and your trade in. If the trade in is worth $15K that's almost $1K of tax you don't pay. You would have to sell it for $16K just to break even.
__________________ Ron "Middle age is when your age starts to show around your middle." - Bob Hope
dealers are there to make money.....just like you all do when you go to work! WE are all different in reasons why WE might not give you what you want for your trade,?
Let's just say the customer better do his homework and be able to negotiate with a seasoned car sales person. The car will be taken as a trade for a $1.00 and sold back to the same person for $100. Yes it's only business. Buyers should educate themselves...shop around and shop around. One dealer did not want my Modded Jeep...the next one gave me a great "Trade" figure(did not have what I wanted in stock) and the 3rd came close enough that we completed the sale. Comparative shopping is the only way to go.
My SSR: 2004 Smokin' Asphalt #8480 - Born April 15, 2004 - Adopted March 1, 2010 - K&N,Diablo, WindsuppreSSR
About 25 years ago I worked selling cars in Calgary... Basically there were four ways that you worked on getting the deal:
Payments... Some people don't care what the total dollars are, just the payments. Make the payments what they can afford and the deal is done
Trade... Difference... Who cares what the new car costs or what you are giving for a trade... How much money am I paying to get out the door? Make that difference right and the deal is done
Trade... Retail to retail... Customer wants the full retail value of their trade. The price of the new car counts for less than the value given on paper for the trade... Give the customer what they want and the deal is done BUT they will likely not be seeing ANY discount on the new vehicle (that profit margin is used up padding the trade value)
Trade... Wholesale to wholesale... The most realistic, but often the most difficult to work with: The buyer is educated and knows fairly accurately what their trade is worth on the wholesale market, BUT they also know (or think they know) what the new car is worth. Basically this becomes a discussion of how much profit is reasonable for the dealership to make on the deal (of course the various manufacturer bonuses and splifs don't come out on the table) I actually liked these deals the most... Everyone walks away feeling that they got a fair deal
Personally, as a customer, I prefer the straight difference model. The dealer can play numbers all they want, but at the end of the day the car you are buying has a real value and the car you are trading has a real value and the dealer has to make money. The difference between the real value of my trade and the real value of the new car PLUS the dealerships profit is what you pay.
If you stick to one of the last 3 you can work a fair deal. If you go for the first one... The dealership is going to make lots of money and send you Christmas cards and birthday cards
Dealers are only going to give you the least amount possible. If you want the most $$ for your vehicle sell it privately. Then you can buy that SSR of your choice. Cash is still king.
Thumper you got that right!!!! They are in the business to make as much as they can and as often as they can,
My SSR: Slingshot Yellow VIN 20778 Born 05 May 2005 (05/05/05)
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Originally Posted by IFytFyrs
Personally, as a customer, I prefer the straight difference model. The dealer can play numbers all they want, but at the end of the day the car you are buying has a real value and the car you are trading has a real value and the dealer has to make money. The difference between the real value of my trade and the real value of the new car PLUS the dealerships profit is what you pay.
If you stick to one of the last 3 you can work a fair deal. If you go for the first one... The dealership is going to make lots of money and send you Christmas cards and birthday cards
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