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Old 03-18-2010, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have learned from a friend of a friend that the following company may be able to help the fanatics with body parts.

Cars Inc, Detroit, MI Contact Brian Smith (248) 853-8900 for more info. I have not called them but one never knows. I understand they own many of the dies for classic Chevy body parts.

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Thanks for posting, great information.
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Cars Inc. does full '57 Chevy bodies. They are also suppliers of sheet metal for full sized and mid sized Chevys of the sixties. Nothing for the SSR. There is a company working with GM to start remaking the SSR hoods and fenders. Should be available by June or July.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Cars Inc. does full '57 Chevy bodies. They are also suppliers of sheet metal for full sized and mid sized Chevys of the sixties. Nothing for the SSR. There is a company working with GM to start remaking the SSR hoods and fenders. Should be available by June or July.
Thats excellent news. However, if that "Company" does not work out I am sure that Cars Inc is able to make parts for the SSR since they are making parts for other vehicles.
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Old 03-19-2010, 08:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thats excellent news. However, if that "Company" does not work out I am sure that Cars Inc is able to make parts for the SSR since they are making parts for other vehicles.
There is some technology involved in making the front fenders. I believe that they had to develop a unique process to be able to draw the front fenders without splitting the metal. That top rear corner is the hard point to shape in a press. The dies must still exist somewhere and I am hoping that they get the original supplier to do the job.

This could be a good thing.
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Old 03-19-2010, 07:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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There is some technology involved in making the front fenders. I believe that they had to develop a unique process to be able to draw the front fenders without splitting the metal. That top rear corner is the hard point to shape in a press. The dies must still exist somewhere and I am hoping that they get the original supplier to do the job.

This could be a good thing.
I agree, however, what are the chances the dies have already been destroyed to prevent the vendor from profiting by producing parts post contract termination.
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they dont really need to be made of metal fiberglass would be fine
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they dont really need to be made of metal fiberglass would be fine
good idea Marc
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good idea Marc
what about carbon fiber
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what about carbon fiber
wouldnt they be $$$$$$
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they dont really need to be made of metal fiberglass would be fine
As long as it not a daily driver, then .
From the kit car that I once own for a number of years, it held up really well.
My understanding is if you go fiberglass, you’ll want “hand lay-up” rather then “chopper gun”. If somebody is going to produce this parts in fiberglass, lets hope they use a high-end resin, fiberglass cloth with a lot of core-mat and carbon-fiber reinforcement, inner supports, and generous flanges. I'm told it will be more expensive to produce than if a general-purpose resin with a chopper gun was use.
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I agree, however, what are the chances the dies have already been destroyed to prevent the vendor from profiting by producing parts post contract termination.
Most of the dies still exist - ssrtruck posted info on this a month or so ago.
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If some one was to reproduce decent quality hoods ,fenders , bumpers and lights I would order up a complete nose for parts . I get nevous as ^%# when i drive the SSR wondering if the idiot in the next lane is going to take me out .
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I already spoke with Doug allen about this, I told him months ago that I was willing to do this.
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seems that 3g services could do a job from what I see on their web...
However, I think I just got last fender on the planet so I will consider myself lucky at this time and I know it could happen to anybody any time so "doogie" can you explain how you will do this and what we as ssr owners can do to help for this to acctualy happen in a case that metal parts are not been produced?
Im ready to participate anyhow.
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I believe you did get the last one, well except for a used one I found in Puerto Rico.
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As long as it not a daily driver, then .
From the kit car that I once own for a number of years, it held up really well.
My understanding is if you go fiberglass, you’ll want “hand lay-up” rather then “chopper gun”. If somebody is going to produce this parts in fiberglass, lets hope they use a high-end resin, fiberglass cloth with a lot of core-mat and carbon-fiber reinforcement, inner supports, and generous flanges. I'm told it will be more expensive to produce than if a general-purpose resin with a chopper gun was use.
TRUE, "chop gun" is a fast way to build up thickness and is fine for some projects.
"Hand laid" is of better quality because worker rolles fiberglass matt by hand, squeezing out bubbles with a special tool. A tignt-packed, stable product as a result.

Resins are also different, one can buy cheap kind frim a general store and feel the difference. cheap resins are fine for small repairs and items that do not have to be dimentionally stable or meant to be painted and visible.
Quality resins are uniform, look clear in the can and saturate F/G matt much easier.
The result is a uniform, quality part.
the application of gel coat is important to, a thin layer would allow for matt texture to show trough and does not leave room for block sanding before prime/paint. Too thick of a coat will chip easy.

Also important for a final product quality - how the mold was made.
Just to lay a fender on a bench and pop the mold off is not enough, SSR fenders espesially are very thin and will not hold true shape on their own.
The molds MUST be taken off from a fender on a vehicle. even then some fitting will be nesessary as every truck has (slightly) different tolerances from the assembly line.
That goes for both new/used factory fenders as well as aftermarket, steel or fibrglass..

One thing i would not agree with is presence of carbon fiber in a fiberglass part. Two different animals.Different resins.

Anyway, without getting ahead of myself too much i'll say we are within two weeks for having our first fiberglass LHS fender ready for inspection.
It'll be hand-laid, made from a properly fabricated mold, quality resin and gel coat used.
I would love it if there was an SSR in Las Vegas area in need of a LHS fender, to install it myself. We would sure workout some nice deal for the owner, cheers!

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