If anyone has considered putting a set high performance brakes on your SSR here is a great opportunity. I have contacted the rep at Stainless Steel Brakes Corp and gotton the following information. This is a special offer for a group purchase through our forum. I believe these brakes will also fit the 05 Chevy Trailblazer. Ideally we'd like to get 20 sets sold and take advantage of this price which is about 1/2 the cost of some of the other big name companies. Please feel free to ask any questions. You can search the 05 chevy trailblazer brake offering on their site to see the kit along with some of the powder coat color options.
I can offer your forum a group discount with commitments. The retail
price on a 4 wheel kit with powder coating is $5180.00 + shipping. Below
is a list of costs vs. commitments and a current picture of the kit. Our
kits come with a 2-piece 14" rotor for both the front and rear and
4-piston calipers all the way around. The rear kit will use your factory
parking brake shoes with our rotor. Also included is a new master
cylinder, all mounting hardware, mounting brackets, and braided hoses
for the front, and hawk brake pads.
The kit will work with the factory ABS system and proportioning valves. The kit does come with a new master cylinder to handle the larger volume 4-piston calipers. Everything is a direct bolt on, no cutting drilling or welding required.
"The kit for the Trailblazer will work on the SSR. I have not fit one up
here but a few of our customers have. I think the only thing they had to
change was one of the factory brake line fitting to make it work. Below
is a link to the kits on our website. If you click on the part number it
will give you details of the kits."
The new lines should take care of the brake line issue.
My SSR: 6 Speed Ricochet Silver, MagnaCharger, Katzkin Leather Interior, 4.10:1 American Gears, True Duals
SSBC Brake Kit
Hi Bob...
Please add me to your list. I would like the kit with the Red Powder Coat Option. This is predicated on us being able to get at least 20 members to sign up for this fantastic deal.
I've reproduced the picture you supplied me from the other "thread". Let's get everyone signed up so we can move forward - Do you require a deposit - Or do we pay after we get a reasonable number of participants so you can place the order ?
Come one, Come all - Chick
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They sure look great but I am wondering what kind of real difference these will make. Does SSBrakes have any kind of info on measureable before and after braking performance? I think people might be reluctant to drop that kind of money just to fill up the wheels.
My SSR: 06/6sd Sil on Blk-2SS, Chrome pack,Magnaflow. #23284
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Originally Posted by Greg Ducato
They sure look greabrake dust.ple might be reluctant to drop that kind of money just to fill up the wheels.
I personally like the stock brakes. They work fine. No brake dust. I upgraded to big brakes on a different vehicle...the parking brake does not hold. Is anybody currently using the SSBC system?
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The rep for SSBC is following this thread and will give me the answers to any questions you have as they arise. We can place our orders directly with the factory once we are comfortable with the number of members involved. Delivery would be at most 2-3 weeks. There is a fitment guide on their site which shows the wheel clearance requirements, I'll measure-up one of mine this weekend to be sure. I've also offered my car to them to check out as I live just about 2 miles down the road.
Anyone else that has driven vehicle a big brake setup is welcome to chime in here but I'm guessing the difference would be like night an day.
I had a big brake kit installed on my wife's car, which has stock 17-inch chrome rims. I was actually surprised at how much more braking power was added with a 13" rotor in front and 12" rotor in back. My wife is very happy, she feels much safer in her car now. These brakes have already helped avoid a couple of accidents.
Since I upgraded the rims on my SSR to a 20/22-inch setup, I have found the braking is less powerful now. I don't have the confidence in braking that 4600 lb beast on the stock rotors and calipers. It feels like I need new brakes, yet the dealer told me I still had 65% on my pads. I guess it's just the difference between a big brake kit and the smaller stock rotors. My wife's car is smaller, but still fairly heavy at 3200 pounds.
There's no question in my mind that a big brake kit, at least a set of big brakes for the front, would be a significant safety improvement for our heavy SSRs. That's why I'm signed up for this deal from SSBC.
The stock brakes are really much bigger than most vehicles that weight in like the SSR. I've had to do a panic stop from interstate speeds, while towing - our brakes work!
That said.. with the bigger wheelsyou have just increased the rotating inertia of your wheels/tire combination. That is like adding flywheels so you now have much more stored (rotating) energy to dissipate when stopping. That's where the big brakes will really help you.
Any words on the effectiveness on the ABS and front to proportioning since the weight distribution of the SSR is not the same as the TB?
The stock brakes are really much bigger than most vehicles that weight in like the SSR. I've had to do a panic stop from interstate speeds, while towing - our brakes work!
That said.. with the bigger wheelsyou have just increased the rotating inertia of your wheels/tire combination. That is like adding flywheels so you now have much more stored (rotating) energy to dissipate when stopping. That's where the big brakes will really help you.
Any words on the effectiveness on the ABS and front to proportioning since the weight distribution of the SSR is not the same as the TB?
And THAT'S why every forum needs a rocket scientist on board.....that's the kind of info I was looking for.
My SSR: 6 Speed Ricochet Silver, MagnaCharger, Katzkin Leather Interior, 4.10:1 American Gears, True Duals
One thing at a time !
When I first got my SSR I went about improving its performance - I changed over to a K&N Filter, switched over to 4.10 Gears, and had Wester's do their magic on the ECM. The results were predicable and I even improved my gas mileage.
My next objective is to improve its handling - I'm in the process of switching to the AADCO Anti-Sway Bars to tighten up the vehicle in hard maneuvers. If you've ever had to do a quick maneuver like I had to do to avoid hitting a car that had almost passed me and then cut over in my lane you probably already have new bars on your SSR.
The next thing on my list now is to improve the braking of the SSR. Though the SSR has adequate brakes, I don't want to just "get by" - try taking the SSR down Mt. Washington at speed and you'll know what I mean. Truth is, if the SSR could lose about 1,500 pounds the stock brakes would probably be OK for heavy use, but I don't see that happening. Cost for a complete brake upgrade is very expensive, but Bob has brought the cost down to a point that I can't ignore. I was originally saving my pennies for a Super-Charger, but now I'm going to use my money to see how bloody fast I can stop...
Note: I noticed the comment about whether or not the Rear-Proportioning-Valve on the Trail-Blazer would be sufficient for the SSR - The SSBC Kit uses the original Valve that is installed in the SSR - There is no change to this feature as a result of upgrading the brakes - The ratio of the braking force front to rear doesn't change.
Regards to All... Chick
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- When it's my time to go, I want to go as my father did -
- Peacefully in his sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers -
The SSBC Kit uses the original Valve that is installed in the SSR - There is no change to this feature as a result of upgrading the brakes - The ratio of the braking force front to rear doesn't change.
Regards to All... Chick
I agree with your statements but my question isn't entirely answered. The ratio is the same for the non-changing components. What about the brakes themselves. Are they 50% more in the front and 50% more in the rear? Some other numbers? Some type of mismatch such as 75% front 25% rear? Other?
That is the point I was trying to get across..
My SSR: 6 Speed Ricochet Silver, MagnaCharger, Katzkin Leather Interior, 4.10:1 American Gears, True Duals
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Originally Posted by RUN ROD RUN
I don't plan on changing my brakes... but could you tell me if your tires can actually handle that extra braking speed?
Yes, they will - And the Anti-Lock feature will prevent them from scrubbing. The 14" rotors will also be a serious asset when utilizing the brakes going down hills or any time you have to scrub off a lot of speed in a hurry - If you've ever had your brakes fad on you, you know what I mean.
If you drive your SSR easy and don't approach its limits, the stock brakes will do an adequate job - I've had my SSR now for 3 years and the brakes on it are a far cry from those I had on my Z28 and SS Camaro's. The speed capabilities of my SSR are as good if not better than my Camaro's in spite of the added weight. But when it comes to braking, forget it !
It all comes down to individual choice; experience; knowledge and priorities ! (not to mention that they look good too)
Chick
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- When it's my time to go, I want to go as my father did -
- Peacefully in his sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers -
My SSR: 6 Speed Ricochet Silver, MagnaCharger, Katzkin Leather Interior, 4.10:1 American Gears, True Duals
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Originally Posted by hdflstf
I agree with your statements but my question isn't entirely answered. The ratio is the same for the non-changing components. What about the brakes themselves. Are they 50% more in the front and 50% more in the rear? Some other numbers? Some type of mismatch such as 75% front 25% rear? Other?
That is the point I was trying to get across..
I understand. The fronts utilize 48mm pads and the rears are 38mm in the SSBC Kit - Not having the knowledge to design and explain the constraints which one faces when designing such a product I defer to the experts in the field.
SSBC and others who make and market kits like the ones we are looking at have excellent reputations and the quality of their engineering; work & materials has never been a subject of debate as far as I know. So I put my faith in those I select to do business with. Having a successful business in this competitive market says some thing about SSBC; Brembo and others..
I'll let you know how I make out after the conversion - I don't expect to be disappointed.
Chick
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- When it's my time to go, I want to go as my father did -
- Peacefully in his sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers -
SSR 1st Chevy/1st 6spd- Saw it, loved it, bought it. 
