My SSR: '03 #01155 Painted stripes, Flomaster, K&N air system, Port/polished Throttle Body, Custom Tuned
That guy, Dan Carney, who wrote that garbage has probably never even seen an SSR in person, let alone "driven or lived with one"!
He's totally wrong on his reason that they didn't sell more!
My SSR: Slingshot Yellow VIN 20778 Born 05 May 2005 (05/05/05)
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Originally Posted by Bluish
Some harsh words for the SSR in this Camaro piece -
For the life of me, I do not understand why anyone reads this ridiculous dribble from those self-appointed experts who probably consider driving a Corolla, or worse yet, a Yugo, stimulating!
My SSR: 2006 Aqua Blur - SSRENITY #22578 Born 10/20/2005
Here's my response
Another article from someone who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. The SSR "terrible cars to drive and live with"? I'll bet you have never driven one. First, it is a truck. Second it is a great riding and handling truck with plenty of power (especially the LS2 models). Third, you give up NO luggage space with the top down...name another retractable hardtop that can claim that. The SSR was a 'halo' vehicle designed to draw customers to the showrooms. There is no way to calculate the number of Chevy's that were sold due to the draw of the SSR. The high price, combined with being a 2 seater and poor market timing did more to hurt it than anything else.
BTW...did you notice the Thunderbird and Prowler were also 2 seaters? Hardly a comparison.
Mustang, Camaro, Firebird...all 'me too' vehicles...what kind of car do you drive? 'Camaro'...me too! There are some people that would rather drive something a bit different and far from ordinary.
Mustang, Camaro, Firebird...all 'me too' vehicles...what kind of car do you drive? 'Camaro'...me too! There are some people that would rather drive something a bit different and far from ordinary.[/QUOTE]
I took it upon myself to email Mr. Carney. I said I was dismayed that so many of us had not been afforded the benefit of his wisdom and invaluable experiences with the SSR for some now owned multiples of up to 5 of these horrific beasts and could have been spared this automotive grief! I expressed that I was shocked at how obviously incorrect I could be in that I took a great amount more joy in driving the SSR than my Vette, AMG or Cobra Mustang and was now hung with two of these catastrophic automotive gaffs and now hundreds of these owners were left to drive thousands of miles to meet and swap stories of woe regarding their SSR experience. Oh but had I been the beneficiary of your knowledge sooner Mr. Carney!!
I received a response from the esteemed writer, Mr. Carney. I steeled myself, fully expecting to be completely disembowelled by the rapierlike penmanship of such a learned prolific writer as himself and received this highly profound statement in response.
"Better you than me".
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My SSR: 2006 Aqua Blur - SSRENITY #22578 Born 10/20/2005
My email exchange with the author
My email (same as I posted on his board) Another article from someone who doesn't have a clue what they are talking about. The SSR "terrible cars to drive and live with"? I'll bet you have never driven one. First, it is a truck. Second it is a great riding and handling truck with plenty of power (especially the LS2 models). Third, you give up NO luggage space with the top down...name another retractable hardtop that can claim that. The SSR was a 'halo' vehicle designed to draw customers to the showrooms. There is no way to calculate the number of Chevy's that were sold due to the draw of the SSR. The high price, combined with being a 2 seater and poor market timing did more to hurt it than anything else.
BTW...did you notice the Thunderbird and Prowler were also 2 seaters? Hardly a comparison.
Mustang, Camaro, Firebird...all 'me too' vehicles...what kind of car do you drive? 'Camaro'...me too! There are some people that would rather drive something a bit different and far from ordinary.
His response:
You got me! Yep, another me-too driver, with my Odyssey minvan.
And I stand corrected about the SSR's body style. I should have said that it is a terrible _truck_ to drive and live with. Easily the worst production vehicle offered for sale in the U.S. since the Prowler. The amount of cowl shake over bumps reminds me of the time I drove the concept version at the GM proving grounds. "We'll fix that for production," they promised. Wrong. I'll never know how they could have green lighted production if they concluded that problem was insurmountable. What a crushing disappointment. I had expected it to be perfect for towing my motorcycles. Instead, it is perfect as sculpture, as long as you never drive it. The sales, or lack thereof, speaks for itself on that vehicle. I'm glad somebody likes them.
Thanks for reading.
dan
My reply:
Thanks for your reply...I can't agree with you about cowl shake. My '06 exhibits almost zero over any road conditions. There is a solid steel bar in the 'A' pillar on the SSR. The proof of the structural integrity is evidenced by some who have managed to roll them and the cowl structure never gave way. I wish you would back up your statement of 'easily the worst production vehicle in the U.S. since the Prowler' with some facts and figures. The SSR was built by ASC and GM at the Lansing Craft Centre on a very unique assembly line with very high levels of quality control. I had the privilege of visiting the plant with other SSR owners and saw for myself what went into the vehicle. You might want to visit ssrfantic.com where you will find legions of happy SSR owners.
Sorry if you had a bad experience,
Roger
His response:
Roger,
The only way to quantify the SSR's utter lack of torsional rigidity -- a situation which compromised the spring, damper and roll bar rates and worsened already poor dynamic characteristics -- would be for GM or ASC to release the figures from their own tests, measured in degrees of deflection per pound of force or in the resonance frequency in hertz. But they will never do that because the numbers would be embarrassing.
But you can try this at home. Jack up a front corner and see how high off the ground it gets before it lifts the rear wheel on that side (if it ever does). Then try the same thing with pretty much anything else, and you'll see that back wheel lift up much sooner. Again, I'm thrilled that there are happy owners. I wanted to be one too, but they didn't deliver a vehicle meeting modern expectations.
Thanks,
dan
My Reply:
Dan...I don't know where you got your idea that jacking up a front corner and looking to see how far you have to go up before lifting the rear wheel on the same side has ANY correlation to structural rigidity! This is so ridiculous as to be laughable, but I think you are actually serious! The only thing you would show by doing what you suggest is how much travel the IRS has before coming up. You use some cute buzz words like torsional rigidity, roll bar rates, dynamic characteristics. Save it for someone who doesn't know enough to call you on your obvious lack of knowledge. If you have any kind of degree in structural engineering, please return it to the school you got it from and demand a refund! Sorry to be so blunt.
Roger
His response:
Don't jack the tire, jack the frame (same as you always do, right?).
And mind your manners. Your SSR will twist like a political lie.
Engineering terms aren't buzz words to people who understand them. If this test is too complicated then you'll just have to let it go knowing that the SSR has no stiffness, which is the fundamental
underlying and unfixable flaw which doomed it from its conception.
Making it the worst production vehicle in the U.S. since the Prowler.
Call the ASC engineers and ask them how proud they are of it. Not very.
My Reply:
Well, since ASC is out of business that would be hard to do. And ASC had nothing to do with the frame. They designed and manufactured the top which was shipped a short distance to the LCC. The frame on the SSR is from the Trailblazer, which is fully boxed, hydroformed and very strong. I have attached a couple of pictures of an SSR chassis. Something like 8 crossmembers and a tubular X underneath, (not visible in pictures). I WAS talking about jacking from the frame and think about it...the rear tire will stay on the ground until the IRS travel has reached its limit. And FYI, I HAVE jacked the frame. I do it every winter, placing it on jack stands to both unload the suspension and eliminate flat-spotting the tires. The frame does NOT twist. Funny, there are THOUSANDS of SSR owners at ssrfanatic.com and the topic of structural rigidity or twisting frames is a non-issue. I guess all of us are wrong and you are right.
Roger
His Response:
I guess so.
Moral of the story...don't waste your time with know-it-all automotive 'reporters'.
My SSR: 05 6 speed black has a K&N cold air kit descreened and Diablo tuner & Eric's hood
At the beginning he mentions buying one to pull his motorcycle trailer. I have never seen anyone ride a motorcycle with his head up his ass, and I've been riding Harley's for 42 years. Next he's going to rag on Harley's but I have never lost a dime on the last 8 I owned. I won't pick on the other brands because they make good bikes for someone else to enjoy, just not me... I've pulled my 850 pound 2008 FLHRSE4 on my Aluma trailer back and forth to Florida more than once at over 80 MPH and didn't even feel it back there so much for frame flex.
Thanks for listening to my
My SSR: 2006 Racy Aqua Blur 6spd Front end all Chrome/SS Tuned/ported
yeah!
Sticking up for our lovable little truck is cool...
Nice to see. Some writers are so headupass that it is fun to see the attitude. Thanks for the posts.
My SSR: "Kate" a Haughty Redhead, '06 Redline FPR 6 spd. #23333 Build Date 2/16/06
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Originally Posted by Beach potato
Sticking up for our lovable little truck is cool...
Nice to see. Some writers are so headupass that it is fun to see the attitude. Thanks for the posts.
Hi Beach! Good to see you back!!
Great stuff SSRENITY
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Ah, I'm Just Truckin' With Ya!
My SSR: ricochet silver 2004 all options available for 04 born on 3-26-04
Ok I Definetly Agree This Guy Has No Clue About The Ssr,but When You Refer To Irs,that To Me Means Independent Rear Suspension Which Our Trucks Don't Have.
My SSR: 2006 Aqua Blur - SSRENITY #22578 Born 10/20/2005
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Originally Posted by hawaiinfun
Ok I Definetly Agree This Guy Has No Clue About The Ssr,but When You Refer To Irs,that To Me Means Independent Rear Suspension Which Our Trucks Don't Have.
You're absolutely right, we don't have independent rear suspension. My bad on that one. Doesn't make any difference on the jacking, thou. Suspension travel is all it would show.
Keep in mind ssr fanatics,this Guy is a socialist, indoctrinated by our
academia and socialist professors.That's the only type distorted reporting we see coming out of the anti-American,mainly lies, pravada press.Oh and BTW,the 2004 T-bird drives like a dream,great handling car,I have one for sale,new,246 miles,beautiful
car.This guy is a classic example of anti-american social engineering.Typical
elitist,think they know it all!
My SSR: '03 RED vin1337, '06(lastoneinblack) vin 24107..Sadly sold '04UV,'05SILVER,'06PACBLU FPR
Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiinfun
Ok I Definetly Agree This Guy Has No Clue About The Ssr,but When You Refer To Irs,that To Me Means Independent Rear Suspension Which Our Trucks Don't Have.
Oh And On Another Note I Probably Get More People Asking About My Truck Than He Gets For Any Crap Box He Drives In A Lifetime!
He didn't write this article to please me, and I sure didn't buy my SSR to please him
Time has a way of changing many things, and opinions.
At one time, Dodge an Plymouth couldn't sell the cars that had those ridiculous looking "wings" on their trunks, and now most guys would trade their left *** for one.
If you bought your SSR as an investment, who knows, perhaps someday it will be in as much demand as some of those classics are today.
If however, you bought your SSR simply because you liked it, stop worrying about what someone else thinks, drive it and enjoy it.
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