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Old 08-05-2010, 07:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Arrow Another SSR "flop" article on MSN today

At least this time they say future collectible.

Today's Flops, Tomorrow's Collectibles - MSN Autos
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Pretty decent group of flops for the most part.
I'd like a few of those flops at my house. Call it a flop house.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Pretty decent group of flops for the most part.
I'd like a few of those flops at my house. Call it a flop house.
I agree!
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Pretty decent group of flops for the most part.
I'd like a few of those flops at my house. Call it a flop house.
I'd take them all.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 08-06-2010, 04:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The author did a poor job of compiling his/her facts (Claire Martin). While there was mention of groups supporting the prowler, no mention of this site was given, nor, the enthusiasm and support by it's owners (for SSR's). I'd say this article was for income purposes rather than a fair portrayal of the facts. Absolutely no one who asks about my R says anything negative when inquiring about it.

The biggest factors remain about he SSR and its short lived production run are that it was overpriced for large sale volumes, initially, and that it never was scoped for mass sales. (IMHO).

I planned on owning one from the day I saw the concept car at the Dallas Auto show but refused to pay sticker price (around $52K) in 2003. I happily paid mid $20k's for my 05 Redline 2 years ago and plan on owning mine until the good lord takes me.
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The problem with the SSR was that Chevy didn't think how much it was had to cost. In 2003 the SSR was more expensive than the Corvette. It should have been priced around $38,000 to sell well at first and then Chevy could have gone up on their prices in a couple of years.

I personally love my 2004 SSR but I bought it for about half of what the orginal owner paid for it. By-the-way, with only about 24,000 of the SSR made, the actual cost to Chevorlet was at least $75,000 per unit.
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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In 2003 when I went to the dealer to look at one for the first time I remember the salesmen telling me this was going to be a limited production car about 1500 a year was suppose to be made. Either the salesmen was lying go figure a salesmen that tells the truth or that was there original plan to make it limited who knows?
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He also stated that fewer than 10,000 were made in 2003. Well they were only made the last 1/3 of the year. Man needs to get his facts right.
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In 2003 when I went to the dealer to look at one for the first time I remember the salesmen telling me this was going to be a limited production car about 1500 a year was suppose to be made. Either the salesmen was lying go figure a salesmen that tells the truth or that was there original plan to make it limited who knows?

That was the original plan for the 03's as it was told to me.
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He also stated that fewer than 10,000 were made in 2003. Well they were only made the last 1/3 of the year. Man needs to get his facts right.
I thought so at first look also, but I believe he meant that anything built with less than 10k units per year built would be considered unsuccessful, whether it be 3k or 8k.
Using this theory the 2004 SSR was a success!
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Old 08-06-2010, 09:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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At least the writer put this at the bottom of the section about SSRs.

Collector prognosis: The car-truck-convertible shtick has already secured a hearty following of enthusiasts.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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In 2003 when I went to the dealer to look at one for the first time I remember the salesmen telling me this was going to be a limited production car about 1500 a year was suppose to be made. Either the salesmen was lying go figure a salesmen that tells the truth or that was there original plan to make it limited who knows?
Quote from a 2001 Bob Walczyk Q & A interview with "Acarplace".
No specific numbers but a statement that infers the SSR was never anticipated to be more than a limited production vehicle.
Even at full operation each and every day, the LCC was likely only capable of producing about max 15k upa.


Question by Acarplace: 5. Can you estimate the production volume?
Bob Walczyk: Chevrolet SSR will be built utilizing the specialty manufacturing process at GM's Lansing, Michigan Craft Centre. SSR will be offered in very limited volume compared to most of Chevrolet's other vehicles today.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The Solstice a flop? I hardly think so! If I was able to squeeze myself into one (dammit for me being 6'3"!) it would have been in my driveway (well, the Saturn Sky was better looking though so it would have been that one).
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Does this make us all . . . FLOP LOVERS?

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Good one Doophus...I have not problem being called a Flop Lover.
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It is only a flop in the eyes of either jealous people who cannot afford one or just dont get the idea behind the car!
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Guys, come on, this is the main stream media we're talking about. An open, factual unbiased report is a thing of the past. Sorry.
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I read this "link" when Jeff made this post. Must have been around 5:00 AM my time. It seem's that the author of this "link" has also been doing some reading..... It has been changed a weeee bit from when I read it this morning! How dare he say that "BLACKIE" is Dorkieee looking!

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Thanks for posting Jeff. I feel better now.
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Does this make us all . . . FLOP LOVERS?

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That's funny. I have two SSR's, One FJ Cruser, I'm shopping for a Prowler, thinking about a Tbird and I'm always looking at the Solstice. So I guess I'm only a 50% flop lover.
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They're all flops, if you're an MBA, but car people don't see things that way.
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After reading the article I see I am 3 for 3. My 2006 SSR lives in the garage with my 2006 Crossfire Limiited Roadster and my beater parked outside is a 2003 GMC Envoy. All three are on the list as failures. But why am I happy with them?
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He also stated that fewer than 10,000 were made in 2003. Well they were only made the last 1/3 of the year. Man needs to get his facts right.
Surprise!!!!....it's a woman writer... Here is the scoop and take for it what it's worth.....

Claire Martin has written for The New York Times, Los Angeles Times and Outside magazine. She's the former deputy editor of Men's Journal and currently lives in Los Angeles, where she covers technology, travel and food.
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The "R" is awesome. The Prowler is definitely a cool ride. I like the T Bird.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
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There was an article on line testerday it listed 50 uglyest cars over the years . Wow there was a picture of my yellow r . Who ever wrote it had his head up his a$$. Now my cars have made two lists wifes 08 solstice gxp and my r 05 . Am i livig right or what ?
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The biggest factors remain about he SSR and its short lived production run are that it was overpriced for large sale volumes, initially, and that it never was scoped for mass sales. (IMHO).

I planned on owning one from the day I saw the concept car at the Dallas Auto show but refused to pay sticker price (around $52K) in 2003. I happily paid mid $20k's for my 05 Redline 2 years ago and plan on owning mine until the good lord takes me.



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At least this time they say future collectible.

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What a lot of car people forget is that in 1965 Shelby couldn't sell his GT350. Even at discounted prices (around $4,000). In the early 1970s you couldn't give away a big block car (hemi, 429, LS6 etc). Today a GT350 can bring $300,000. I doubt if we will ever see that from our SSR but who knows.

The only "flop" in the SSR program was from Chevy it the fact that the SSR was very costly to build. Many people wanted one but not at $50,000. I have owned a 57 Chevy Convertible, 1966 GTO Convertible, a 428 Cobra Jet 1968 Cougar and I get more fun out of my 2004 SSR.
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By-the-way, with only about 24,000 of the SSR made, the actual cost to Chevorlet was at least $75,000 per unit.
I've read here that it was more like $150,000 per unit once you figure in all the factory setup, the R&D, etc.
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