The Chevy SSR, What's new? "DEAD", but LS2 versions are good collectibles.
Why buy? Virtually anything w/ an LS2 and a T56 is buyable on most accounts and in this case it finally gives the portly SSR enough grunt to carry it's own load. Unfortunately it's price tag and the lack of practicality and public interest was too much to overcome for this RETRO TRUCK.
The Chevy SSR, What's new? "DEAD", but LS2 versions are good collectibles.
Why buy? Virtually anything w/ an LS2 and a T56 is buyable on most accounts and in this case it finally gives the portly SSR enough grunt to carry it's own load. Unfortunately it's price tag and the lack of practicality and public interest was too much to overcome for this RETRO TRUCK.
Yep, the 2007 website no longer shows the SSR!
The new Camero looks hot!
The convertable looks even better!!
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Just checked Chevrolet.com web site and there are 2006 SSRs listed for sale. Oddly enough, one of them is VIN 24061 which I purchased on 11/28/06 from Paul Masse Chevrolet in E. Providence, R.I. I have alerted them twice about removing it from their web site but ino action has been taken even though they advised they would remove it a couple of weeks ago.
As long as GM doesn't screw up the new Camaro to badly it should be a very hot seller, at least the first couple model years anyway. Lets hope they don't price it out of the market place like they did with the SSr.
My SSR: '05 Concept Truck, powered by Heavy Duty rubberbands, and a really BIG WINDUP KEY!
It is my understanding that GM, DID NOT price it out of the market, it was the dealerships that bumped the price up, thinking they could get more out of them.
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I wondered sometimes too, if the dealers thought the SSR took away from their precious Corvette sales!! If I were shopping for price today and wanted a convertible, I would buy a Pontiac Solstice! I don't think the majority of buyer's today care about Big Horse Power anymore! Just my 2 cent's.
I don't want to steal this thread but I have a couple ?'s related to HP. Does the GTO use the same engine as the SSR and if it does is it the 5.3 or 6.0. Looking at pics on ebay I couldn't tell. I thought that downunder (Holden) had their own V8 and that is what is fitted into the GTO.
In all my 32yrs at Design Staff I could never figure out why the General could not be happy and learn to make a profit on low volume NEAT cars. It's the mind set of the BIG decision makers. Look at the Fiero, once the big rush had theirs (86,000 1st yr) and it leveled off to a steady flow of volume, they cancel it. Look at Miatas and Honda they can do it.
The SSR should have been programed from the beginning to be an only about 20,00 per year and basically should have been built on an order only basis.
Just my 2pennies.
grimmye
My SSR: SSR 04 – PEDIGREE SSR Chrome Wheels w/ 1st Aux. Gauge Package released for Production. #9684
Was the SSR meant to be a street racer?
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Originally Posted by Boosted
... I don't care about haveing a low HP anything...
I am sure that is what many member's feel too ...
I happen to like lots of HP too... however, I didn't make my purchase based on HP alone. I was very content and happy to order my 2004 SSR - 5.3L 300 HP! FYI: I ordered mine even after I knew there was going to be the Vette engine coming out in 05 very soon. I purchased my SSR to be quick, fun, sporty and a cool cruiser. I certainly wasn't expecting it to be a drag or street racer.
BTW: Why don't all Vettes come with 505 HP?
Because even Vette owners know that not everyone has to have the most HP on the block to have some fun.
I happen to like lots of HP too... however, I didn't make my purchase based on HP alone. I was very content and happy to order my 2004 SSR - 5.3L 300 HP! FYI: I ordered mine even after I knew there was going to be the Vette engine coming out in 05 very soon. I purchased my SSR to be quick, fun, sporty and a cool cruiser. I certainly wasn't expecting it to be a drag or street racer.
BTW: Why don't all Vettes come with 505 HP?
Because even Vette owners know that not everyone has to have the most HP on the block to have some fun.
I think the incremental price difference prevents many buyers from stepping up to the Z06. Standard vettes can be purchased at dealer invoice but I don't know of any dealers discounting new Z06s below MSRP yet. I have two friends that ordered new 07 vettes and both claim they would have gotten the Z06 were it not for pricing. Sorry for getting carried away about vettes but being a vette owner I decided to throw my 2 cents in.
The 05-06 SSR and GTO share the same 6.0 liter.. The 03-04 SSR had the pickup 5.3 motor..
OK I understand 5.3 vs 6.0 (that's displacement) BUT do they start with the same 'block design'? In else words could you bore out a 5.3 to 6.0 and add special heads, valves, etc., and end up with w 6.0 'equivelant' power wise?
Just curious. grimmye
My SSR: Ultra Violet 2004,Vin# 03550 slight modifications to the exhaust, detailed and painted engine cover
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OK I understand 5.3 vs 6.0 (that's displacement) BUT do they start with the same 'block design'? In else words could you bore out a 5.3 to 6.0 and add special heads, valves, etc., and end up with w 6.0 'equivelant' power wise?
Just curious. grimmye
No you cant bore the 5.3 block that large the cylinders walls are not that thick. I have already checked on that, since I could bore it my self. The improved heads could be installed on the 5.3 though.
I went to get the Corvette I did not get in 1968. When I got into it I realized it was not for me at my age. That being said I saw the SSR, found out it had the corvette engine, and said thats for me. Given the choice with all things being equal I would take the SSR. All the fun plus truck space and comfort.
My SSR: SSR 04 – PEDIGREE SSR Chrome Wheels w/ 1st Aux. Gauge Package released for Production. #9684
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Originally Posted by TLC5 in CT
... I think the incremental price difference prevents many buyers from stepping up to the Z06.
Yes of course the price makes a huge difference to buyers. However let us think back to the 60's and 70's... many of you may recall (when most of us were much younger then) Chevrolet offered many optional engines in Corvettes in those years. Why … to satisfy everyone's requirements... from brute all out HP to a first-class responsive small blocks. If HP was the only real important reason for buying a Vette why then would Chevrolet have offered so many engine options?
What I am trying to suggest here is that vast majority of the SSR owners are in their 50s-60s and for the most part many of us really don't care if it we have a 300 HP or 395-400 HP.
I have heard a few of our members state that the "only" SSRs worth having are the ones with the 395-400 HP ones. Let me say this... cruzin is tons of fun with either engine under the hood. (I have driven them all) They both sound mean and they both look awesome!
So then ... how many people are going to "really" know or even care if you have 300 or 400 HP under your hood when you drive by them anyways? All they know is that you have one of the coolest rides around.
Yes of course the price makes a huge difference to buyers. However let us think back to the 60's and 70's... many of you may recall (when most of us were much younger then) Chevrolet offered many optional engines in Corvettes in those years. Why … to satisfy everyone's requirements... from brute all out HP to a first-class responsive small blocks. If HP was the only real important reason for buying a Vette why then why would Chevrolet have offered so many other engine options?
What I am trying to suggest here is that vast majority of the SSR owners are in their 50s-60s and for the most part many of us really don't care if it we have a 300 HP or 395-400 HP.
I have heard a few of our members state that the "only" SSRs worth having are the ones with the 395-400 HP ones. Let me say this... cruzin is tons of fun with either engine under the hood. (I have driven them all) They both sound mean and they both look awesome!
So then ... how many people are going to "really" know or even care if you have 300 or 400 HP under your hood when you drive by them anyways? All they know is that you have one of the coolest rides around.
Just my .02
Good points Marc and I can't disagree with any of them. I'm 62 and I do like the 395 HP, however, I still would have purchased it even if it had the original 5.3 engine.
Good points Marc and I can't disagree with any of them. I'm 62 and I do like the 395 HP, however, I still would have purchased it even if it had the original 5.3 engine.
I really like the Vette engine -it's not so much about using the horsepower as it knowing you could.
The 6 speed was of much greater value to me. I would still have changed to a 6 speed even if it had the 5.3 in it. At typical cruising speed, it don't make no difference.
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So then ... how many people are going to "really" know or even care if you have 300 or 400 HP under your hood when you drive by them anyways? All they know is that you have one of the coolest rides around.
With all the stop signs and traffic lights in my area plus who know what the city planners have up there sleeves for additional traffic control.
Hell, I'm just happy moving right along at the speed limit between point A to point B.
My SSR: SSR 04 – PEDIGREE SSR Chrome Wheels w/ 1st Aux. Gauge Package released for Production. #9684
I am very happy with my 04 but if ...
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I really like the Vette engine -it's not so much about using the horsepower as it knowing you could.
I have to agree with you Ray on your point. If I were in the market today I would be definitely looking for a tu-tone similar to the one like you have.
I also wouldn't mind having the 400 HP engine that goes with it as well ... just to clear up any misunderstandings some might have gotten.
My SSR: 2006 Racy Aqua Blur 6spd Front end all Chrome/SS Tuned/ported
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OK I understand 5.3 vs 6.0 (that's displacement) BUT do they start with the same 'block design'? In else words could you bore out a 5.3 to 6.0 and add special heads, valves, etc., and end up with w 6.0 'equivelant' power wise?
Just curious. grimmye
Have you read JimG's book???Many questions such as that can be answered by buying JimG's book here on the forum Check it out
The TrailBlazer SS also shares the same 6.0 liter LS2 engine. But more importantly it looks like they put the emphysis on performance with the TBSS right from the start:
Every SS is equipped with a specially tuned ZQ8 suspension that features Bilstein shock absorbers, a lowered ride height, larger front stabilizer bars and a rear air-leveling system. Rear Axle - heavy-duty, 9.5-in. ring-and-pinion with limited slip differential and 4.10 ratio. 20" Wheels with Goodyear Eagle Performance Tires. Available full-time all-wheel drive with a TORSEN® center differential. Heavy-duty front disc brakes with Corvette-spec front brake pads and ABS, Quick-ratio, low-friction power steering and Heavy-duty, electronically controlled four-speed automatic transmission. Cold Air Induction Package.
TBSS production began in 2006 and there is speculation that it will be cancelled either this year or in the 2008 model year.
OK I understand 5.3 vs 6.0 (that's displacement) BUT do they start with the same 'block design'? In else words could you bore out a 5.3 to 6.0 and add special heads, valves, etc., and end up with w 6.0 'equivelant' power wise?
Just curious. grimmye
In order to get the 5.3 to a 6.0 you would have to bore and stroke the motor. I am sure you have heard of stroker kits. This is using a crankshaft with a longer rod . Then you get into pin hight in the pistons. You can build it just about anyway you want, it all comes down to $$$$$
My SSR: Ultra Violet 2004,Vin# 03550 slight modifications to the exhaust, detailed and painted engine cover
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If any body really want's more cubic inches, check out Competition Products. Their latest add in the National Dragster advertises New LS1/LS2 stroker short blocks. LS1 408ci iron block assembly for $3899 and a LS1 383aluminum block for $3899 and a LS2 408ci alluminum block for $4199. pretty good prices for a complete short block assembly. Check it out.
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