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Old 06-25-2008, 08:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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5.3L Tune VS MagnaCharger?

Taking my R into MTI in Marietta Ga tomorrow for a tune. Right out of the gate they suggested an $8 grand MagnaCharger to realize the REAL potential out of the 5.3L.
I think a tune might be the first step though. So any ideas on this?
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Taking my R into MTI in Marietta Ga tomorrow for a tune. Right out of the gate they suggested an $8 grand MagnaCharger to realize the REAL potential out of the 5.3L.
I think a tune might be the first step though. So any ideas on this?
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The MagnaCharger is a great modification and really wakes up the 5.3 SSR. If you want a MagnaCharger, Installation, Tune and Dyno talk to me about PCM for Less in South Carolina. They can sell you the MagnaCharger, Install it and Tune it on a dyno for less then that.

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Old 06-25-2008, 09:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The MagnaCharger is a great modification and really wakes up the 5.3 SSR. If you want a MagnaCharger, Installation, Tune and Dyno talk to me about PCM for Less in South Carolina. They can sell you the MagnaCharger, Install it and Tune it on a dyno for less then that.

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Joe,

Can you recommend a dealer/distributor in the Chicagoland area?
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Can you recommend a dealer/distributor in the Chicagoland area?
I dont have a dealer up there yet. If you can find a shop to install it I can have it shipped to you or the shop. The tune comes with it and it is an easy install if you have wrenching skills.
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can you p.m. me a price on a magnacharger for my 04?i have someone to do the install.
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I dont have a dealer up there yet. If you can find a shop to install it I can have it shipped to you or the shop. The tune comes with it and it is an easy install if you have wrenching skills.
I've gone through the install manual and was thinking of doing it myself. It's well within my capabilities and looks like a cool weekend project~

Now, just need to find that "killer deal"! You know, like one of those "Oh, my, look what I found on ebay...no bids, no views and they don't know what they're selling" kind of deals!
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I've gone through the install manual and was thinking of doing it myself. It's well within my capabilities and looks like a cool weekend project~

Now, just need to find that "killer deal"! You know, like one of those "Oh, my, look what I found on ebay...no bids, no views and they don't know what they're selling" kind of deals!
Feel free to give me a call when you are ready and I can take care of you.
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:04 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I've gone through the install manual and was thinking of doing it myself. It's well within my capabilities and looks like a cool weekend project~

Now, just need to find that "killer deal"! You know, like one of those"Oh, my, look what I found on ebay...no bids, no views and they don't know what they're selling" kind of deals!
Don't go for the lowest price someone can shoot at you. You will regret that when you need some help, either during the installation, or later on with a tuning question or warranty claim.

2005SSR6speed is a proven, reliable, board member and Magnacharger dealer who takes care of the folks he sells to. I speak from personal experience too in saying that. You might conceivably find someone out there who would undercut Joe by a few bucks, but I guarantee you that you would regret a decision to go that way when you need help. The costs adds up VERY quickly when you need help or a warranty repair and you don't get proactive help from your dealer. Do the right thing here. You'll be happy you did.

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Update on the 5.3L MTI Marietta GA.Tune.
They dyno'd it before taking out the HyperTech tune I had in it, then put it back to GM OE tune, and dyno'd again.
Bottom line, after the MTI tune, I was able to gain 20HP at the wheels, for a disappointing 261HP and +8 PF of Torque, at the wheels, ABOVE the HyperTech program. They tell me 261 rear wheel HP converts to ~310HP at the motor. Also I should state that I have a Magnaflow Cat back Performance exhaust on for all of the runs.

So... Did GM lie to us about 300HP out of the box?
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Update on the 5.3L MTI Marietta GA.Tune.
They dyno'd it before taking out the Hypercharger tune I had in it, then put it back to GM OE tune, and dyno'd again.
Bottom line, after the MTI tune, I was able to gain 20HP at the wheels, for a disappointing 261HP and +8 PF of Torque, at the wheels, ABOVE the Hypercharger program. They tell me 261 rear wheel HP converts to ~310HP at the motor. Also I should state that I have a Magnaflow Cat back Performance exhaust on for all of the runs.

So... Did GM lie to us about 300HP out of the box?
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First, all vehciles, automatic or manual transmission models, lose a great deal od power between the engine crankshaft and the rear wheels. Some goes to driving accessories (e.g. alternator), and some gets lost as friction. Manual transmission vehicles typically lose 12 to 15%, and automatic transmission vehicles typically lose 22 to 22%, and soemtimes even more.

The typical rear wheel output on a 2004 SSR (which are ALL automatics) is 230 to 245 rear wheel horsepower (rwhp), when properly corrected to standard temperature, pressure, and humidity conditions (which almost all dynomometers automatically do correct to).

261 rwhp out of an SSR that has only a dyno tune and no other mods is excellent.

That Magnaflow ctaback system, like virtually all pre-configured catback systems, sounds louder than stock but actually adds very little power, and sometimes redcues power. Sorry, I know you don't want to hear that, but I have no reason to lie to you about it - unlike the guy who sold it to you or unlike Magnaflow which preys upon people's desire for "more power".

REAL power increases are costly. The proven average for adding aftermarket horsepower is $60 to $100 per horsepower added, depending u[pon a number of factors.

There a several ways that you can get much better ACCELERATION without necessarily adding more POWER. I have listed many of them on previous posts on this website over the past 3 years. If you would like a moreconvenient one-stop listing, buy my e-book "The SSR Experience" which is advertised in the "Parts for Sale" forum on this website.

By the way, when I sold my SSR which was the "model" for the e-book, it made close to 600 crank horsepower and about 420 rwhp, so I'm not just shooting you a line like too many unscrupulous vendors of hot rod parts do.

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Update on the 5.3L MTI Marietta GA.Tune.
They dyno'd it before taking out the Hypercharger tune I had in it, then put it back to GM OE tune, and dyno'd again.
Bottom line, after the MTI tune, I was able to gain 20HP at the wheels, for a disappointing 261HP and +8 PF of Torque, at the wheels, ABOVE the Hypercharger program. They tell me 261 rear wheel HP converts to ~310HP at the motor. Also I should state that I have a Magnaflow Cat back Performance exhaust on for all of the runs.

So... Did GM lie to us about 300HP out of the box?
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Bite the bullit and contact Joe (2005SSR6SPEED) for the magnacharger. He'll
get you the best price and you can either have it installed or install it yourself
with him as tech support. There is no one who knows more about these magnachargers.
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