Yeah, as far as I know that went no where. I put my name in. I e-mailed Bob several times to no avail. I also called SSBC directly myself and had 10 second conversation with a very unpleasent fellow that abruptly told me no there is no break kit that fits and then hung up on me. Thanks for the quick reply but I don't think that Bob exists or there was not enough interest to get it off the ground.
Yeah, as far as I know that went no where. I put my name in. I e-mailed Bob several times to no avail. I also called SSBC directly myself and had 10 second conversation with a very unpleasent fellow that abruptly told me no there is no break kit that fits and then hung up on me. Thanks for the quick reply but I don't think that Bob exists or there was not enough interest to get it off the ground.
PM AKWARES - I know he did install a set on his SSR, I just don't know if it was the SSBC kit.
You might get better results if you change the title of the post to "Big BRAKE Kit" the way it reads now it looks like you are trying to get into show biz
You might get better results if you change the title of the post to "Big BRAKE Kit" the way it reads now it looks like you are trying to get into show biz
Before I retired that was my favorite word. Break Time !!
Thanks again. I guess I'll wait until Akwares chimes in or I'll pm.
Regards,
Xtreemssr
The Brakes that are on your SSR are very similar to the Corvettes. The Brakes I've heard some other guys mention were Dual 4, piston Calipers with 14'' Rotors if I remember correctly. I think they were talking about a cost of around $ 4,000.00
The Brakes that are on your SSR are very similar to the Corvettes. The Brakes I've heard some other guys mention were Dual 4, piston Calipers with 14'' Rotors if I remember correctly. I think they were talking about a cost of around $ 4,000.00
I've heard some people say they needed big brakes because their SSR won't stop with 22" wheels or a supercharger - Hellvis has both, with around 550 RWHP. I've never felt that the brakes were inadequate, and for $ 4K +, I don't feel a need to change them.
I've heard some people say they needed big brakes because their SSR won't stop with 22" wheels or a supercharger - Hellvis has both, with around 550 RWHP. I've never felt that the brakes were inadequate, and for $ 4K +, I don't feel a need to change them.
Sorry for the hijack.
Normal driving you are correct. They work great.
I found mine heated up pretty quickly in a long windy road coarse. They got so hot that the Front wheels started to vibrate. This was due to the Rotors over heating. I love to drive through Kern Canyon; known as state Hwy 178, this is a winding road just full of fun. Down hill is where the Brakes over heat.
But I guess even if you had the bigger brakes and Calipers they would still heat up on a coarse like this. Nothing like over heated Rotors so hot that they warp. When they get that hot it's time to slow down.
I have a big break kit on the way for both the front and rear of my '06 automatic. Has anyone done this and are there any issues I need to know about?
Regards,
Xtreemssr
The Front wheels are totally dependant on your Traction Control System and can not be altered from it's original configuration. They also incorporate a signal that is sent to your Automatic braking System from your wheels and this is fore and aft. This also can not be altered from it's original configuration. There is also a signal that is relayed to the Transmission from the T/C signal that reduces the Hydraulic pressure so less torque is present at the Rear wheels. If you are an Electronic Technician then you know that the absence of these signals in your new Brake setup will render your Vehicle useless. So there has to be a way to keep the current system intact or incorporated into your new Brake System.
I found mine heated up pretty quickly in a long windy road coarse. They got so hot that the Front wheels started to vibrate. This was due to the Rotors over heating. I love to drive through Kern Canyon; known as state Hwy 178, this is a winding road just full of fun. Down hill is where the Brakes over heat.
But I guess even if you had the bigger brakes and Calipers they would still heat up on a coarse like this. Nothing like over heated Rotors so hot that they warp. When they get that hot it's time to slow down.
I've, uh, driven Hellvis under some conditions that would not be considered normal
Never had a problem in AZ or on the road to Estes Park last year, many trips to SoCal and Kingsburg.
Don't ride your brakes, use your transmission.....
I've, uh, driven Hellvis under some conditions that would not be considered normal
Never had a problem in AZ or on the road to Estes Park last year, many trips to SoCal and Kingsburg.
Don't ride your brakes, use your transmission.....
Mine is Auto Magic, but yes I could still shift down. I figured someone would come back an say. Why are you useing your Brakes on a Road Coarse ? The Canyon Is very deep in many area's and there is a Beautiful River way down at the bottom. It's not the long fall that bothers me. It's the huge boulders at the bottom that does. This Canyon Road is a State Highway that has other vehicles with drivers that like to creep over the center line. I not only have to watch what I do. I have to watch what they are doing. I have to say you can move pretty quick if there is no traffic in front of you. Some times there may be as many as ten vehicles in front of you doing fifteen miles per hour. It's tough to pass but with the SSR you know that it doesn't take alot of clearance to pass. There is a fire in that Canyon this morning and the Road is closed. I will be going up that Canyon again today if they put the fire out. I planned on going to Lake Isabella to swing my Sticks. There is a nice coarse on the Kern River there that I like to play.
My SSR: 05 6/6 Aqua Blurr BOD 2/2/05 Eric's Hood scoop, running boards, Lonnies 59 taillamps, MikeAZ exhaust
Big Brake Kit
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Originally Posted by MoodyBlue
The Front wheels are totally dependant on your Traction Control System and can not be altered from it's original configuration. They also incorporate a signal that is sent to your Automatic braking System from your wheels and this is fore and aft. This also can not be altered from it's original configuration. There is also a signal that is relayed to the Transmission from the T/C signal that reduces the Hydraulic pressure so less torque is present at the Rear wheels. If you are an Electronic Technician then you know that the absence of these signals in your new Brake setup will render your Vehicle useless. So there has to be a way to keep the current system intact or incorporated into your new Brake System.
My SSR: 6 Speed Ricochet Silver, MagnaCharger, Katzkin Leather Interior, 4.10:1 American Gears, True Duals
Thanks Charlie - You're correct !
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Originally Posted by CQQL_SSR
You had better talk to Chick. He installed larger brakes on his and has not been able to drive it since. He has had all kinds of clearance problems.
Thanks Charlie - You're correct.
My Brake Kit was purchased from SSBC and was supposed to fit the SSR. I believe it was a modification to the kit they sell for the TrailBlazer. The kit included new 14" Rotors with Force 10 Quad Piston Calipers, new GM Truck Master Cylinder and Stainless Steel Brake Lines for the Front. I found out that the kit does not work on the SSR without a lot of modifications to the SSR.
- The front dust shields had to be removed to clear the rotors
- The front castings supporting the lower ball-joints had to be ground down to clear the rotors.
- One-piece wheel spacers were machined to move the wheels out to clear the calipers.
- New wheels studs (APL) were machined to make up for the wheel spacers.
- The front & rear axle castings were modified so the new longer wheel studs could be installed.
That's the current state of my project - I'm all ready to install the calipers and wheels and get my SSR off the jack-stands and back on to the ground where it belongs. It's taken me a long time to do the work due to tiring so quickly during my recovery period. A little work, a little rest, etc, etc, etc.
Would I do it again - Yes, but it would have been nice to know that all this work was required before I could drive it again. I did have another option that would have eliminated the custom wheel spacers, but I don't have another $4,000 for new 3 piece wheels. The modifications that I have made have cost me $300 so far - I think I'm done.
XTREEMSSR - If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer them for you. AKWARES did not use the SSBC Kit, but he did know up front that he would have to replace his wheels with custom ones. If I remember correctly the last time I talked to AKWARES I gave him the information about the new Master-Brake-Cylinder that I installed to compensate for the increase in volume necessary for the large calipers. I went to SSBC because I was under the impression that the stock wheels would still fit and I love the stock chrome wheels. I'll find out this week if all my work has done its job as I need, to keep my factory wheels.
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- Peacefully in his sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers -
Regards, Chick - Live Strong
SUNSET AT THE NORTH POLE
Last edited by Chick : 06-11-2008 at 04:13 PM.
Reason: Additional Information
Chick,
Wow,that's a lot of work. I'm the here's the truck.....here's the $ get it done at the local speed shop type of guy. I think I understand why the guy at ssbc was so short with me the second I said '06 SSR. I do have a kit on the way for both the front and the rear. Like I said at the start, I have 20's on the front 22's on the rear. The kit "will work with" the original traction control, proportioning valve and master cyclinder. I will have to have s/s break lines put in but that should be no problem. It is not a ssbc but I will let you know after the install if the kit fits as to not give a company any publicity that is not deserved. The only issues they will not warranty is clearence issues with the wheels. They say no problem to everything else. We will see. Thanks for all the info. I will keep you posted as to the progress.
Thanks Charlie - You're correct !
