My SSR: 2006 FPR 6 speed Silver w/ Blue Flames by www.airkolors.com
Clutch Stuck Information
After another bout of sticking clutch this week-end I did some research on the Corvette Forum and found an interesting and informative read I thought my 6 speed brothers may wish to look at. It appears this guy "Ranger" has had quite a bit of experience at the track and with clutch issues. I believe our own hdflstf has made these same recommendations, although this post has photos for those of us that aren't quite so mechanically inclined. I guess I will be changing out my own clutch fluid on a regular basis or start drivin' like the soccer mom I am... not.
After another bout of sticking clutch this week-end I did some research on the Corvette Forum and found an interesting and informative read I thought my 6 speed brothers may wish to look at. It appears this guy "Ranger" has had quite a bit of experience at the track and with clutch issues. I believe our own hdflstf has made these same recommendations, although this post has photos for those of us that aren't quite so mechanically inclined. I guess I will be changing out my own clutch fluid on a regular basis or start drivin' like the soccer mom I am... not.
My SSR: 2005 REDLINE RED LS2 6 SPEED, LOWERED, NO TINK SHAFT (CARBON FIBER)
Or dont let your friends drive it. Good find Anne. Buy the way, my dealer told me GM wants all v8 sticks to be bleed every 2 years to maintain warranty. You might want to see what your dealer says about that.
My SSR: 2006 FPR 6 speed Silver w/ Blue Flames by www.airkolors.com
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Originally Posted by XSELER8
Good find WS...thanks for posting. Here's my fluid extractor. A slight overkill. I bought it for a different use but never used it. www.liquidvac.com
I can tell I'm gonna have a nightmare tonight.
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Originally Posted by topjimmy
Or dont let your friends drive it. Good find Anne. Buy the way, my dealer told me GM wants all v8 sticks to be bleed every 2 years to maintain warranty. You might want to see what your dealer says about that.
Jim
Friends...
So that means you're contributing to the tire fund Lonnie's startin' for me?
I will be sure to ask about the maintenance at the dealer, thanks Jim.
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Subject: Intermittent Spongy Clutch Pedal Sticking To The Floor During Hard Acceleration And High RPM Shifts - keywords contaminate fluid hydraulic #PIP4145 - (06/04/2007)
Models: 2005-2007 Chevrolet Corvette, Corvette Z06 Equipped with a Tremec 6-speed Transmission RPO MM6, MZ6
The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.
Condition/Concern:
Some customers may comment about an intermittent spongy clutch pedal feel or clutch pedal sticking to the floor. This may be aggravated by aggressive driving and high clutch operating temperatures. Higher than expected levels of water in the clutch fluid greater than 2% may cause the clutch fluid to boil. The presence of water in the fluid lowers the boiling point significantly; when these conditions are present the driver may lose customary clutch pedal feel and performance.
Recommendation/Instructions:
If the above condition is intermittent flush the hydraulic system using DOT 4 fluid part number 88958860 (88901244 in Canada), prior to replacement of any mechanical or hydraulic components.
To eliminate the opportunity for moisture to enter the clutch hydraulic system.
The clutch fluid level inspection should be a VISUAL inspection only. Look through the transparent reservoir and observe the fluid level. Avoid removing the cap. Do not remove the cap just to top-off clutch fluid. Leave the system closed and sealed. During PDI inspection or routine servicing the cap should not be opened for just an inspection.
DOT 4 clutch fluid has a 2 week shelf life. Do not use fluid if container opening date is unknown or older than 2 weeks. Do not mix or re-use old fluid. Current service information already covers the issue of reuse.
To provide the best clutch operation, it is recommended that the owner change the clutch fluid every 2 calendar years. Please flush and replace the clutch fluid with P/N 88958860 (88901244 in Canada) or equivalent DOT 4.
The current service information and owners manual will be updated to reflect this information.
Note: If the concern is not intermittent, inspect clutch hydraulic system for leaks and repair as necessary after repairs are completed flush system with DOT 4 fluid part number 88958860 (88901244 in Canada).
Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
I highlighted a couple things that I didn't know about.... I'm always opening the cap to check the fluid and it's color.
Thanks for the information, Jim!
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My SSR: Black, '03, 1sb, #1256, License Plate was WOW FCTR
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Originally Posted by waysouth6speed
DOT 4 clutch fluid has a 2 week shelf life. Do not use fluid if container opening date is unknown or older than 2 weeks. Do not mix or re-use old fluid.
HOW can something automotive have a 2 WEEK shelf life?!?!??!
Oh I get it....it has a 2 week shelf life AFTER it's been open.....
Isn't the FLUID system vented??? wouldn't that be the same thing??
Maybe I should just stick to old '03 auto knowledge....
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150000 miles 10/22/08
My SSR: 2006 Blue over Primer'd Bondo 6spd #23424 slapped together 2/22/06
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Originally Posted by waysouth6speed
[/SIZERecommendation/Instructions:
If the above condition is intermittent flush the hydraulic system using DOT 4 fluid part number 88958860 (88901244 in Canada), prior to replacement of any mechanical or hydraulic components.
To provide the best clutch operation, it is recommended that the owner change the clutch fluid every 2 calendar years. Please flush and replace the clutch fluid with P/N 88958860 (88901244 in Canada) or equivalent DOT 4. The current service information and owners manual will be updated to reflect this information.
Note: If the concern is not intermittent, inspect clutch hydraulic system for leaks and repair as necessary after repairs are completed flush system with DOT 4 fluid part number 88958860 (88901244 in Canada).
I am flat out APPALLED by GM's incompetence regarding this clutch fluid. This part number referenced above, 88958860, is SUPER Dot 4. The fact that GM is CLUELESS to this, even in their own approved FIX for the ongoing clutch problems (not only in the SSR but also the Corvettes and GTOs) is STUNNING. MOST people are ALREADY confused by the whole "Super" Dot 4/Dot 5.1 nomenclature to begin with; some even PURCHASE regular Dot 4 even when TOLD that they need SUPER Dot 4. The fact that GM doesn't even SPECIFY "Super" Dot 4 (even though they TECHNICALLY do, given that the part number is FOR the Super Dot 4) in their OWN TSB is absolutely LUDICROUS in that they state to use the part number "88958860 or equivalent Dot 4" when in fact there IS NO EQUIVALENT Dot 4 brake fluid to the SUPER Dot 4 that is part number 88958860!!!! How can they be so idiotic, even in their own TSBs? If someone who doesn't know the in's and out's and technicalities of Super Dot 4 (most have never heard of it) and they read "equivalent Dot 4" they are just going to go down to Auto Zone and get a bottle of Prestone Synthetic Dot 4 which is MILES different from REAL Super Dot 4. Then, the customers (and DEALERS, who most have NEVER heard of SUPER Dot 4, such as MY dealer) go through time and money to replace the fluid with REGULAR Dot 4 which does NOT cure the problem. Most people wouldn't bother to check GM's own part number if they are told "equivalent Dot 4." The TSB SHOULD clarify and resound the UTMOST IMPORTANCE of using ONLY "Super Dot 4" (as well as clarifying the fact that the GM part number IS Super Dot 4 and NOT Dot 4!) as this seems to be the ONLY fluid that doesn't boil out of these clutches.
Once again, GM is reeking of incompetence and creating needless confusion without adequately FIXING the problems with these clutches if the customer uses REGULAR Dot 4 as the TSB implies. And, once again, the "knowing" customer will have to get in an argument with the service writer who just revealed that "Oh, we used Dot 4 in your clutch like the TSB calls for" as the service writer will INSIST that Dot 4 is the SAME as Super Dot 4 (while probably not even AWARE of "Super" Dot 4 and ASSUMING it is the same as regular Dot 4 which is BOLSTERED by the TSB's error) simply because the TSB stated "equivalent Dot 4." This goof on GM's part is setting up a lot of customers for getting the wrong fluid then having to get involved in a pissing contest with the service department over what is and is not SUPER Dot 4. More complications on top of something that should be an EASY communicable fix.
Thanks GGOAT. You are right . Myself and numerous dealers were not aware about the Super DOT 4. Got some today from a savy dealer who stocks it Will use it for the purge..
My SSR: 05 6/6 Aqua Blurr BOD 2/2/05 Eric's Hood scoop, running boards, Lonnies 59 taillamps, MikeAZ exhaust
clutch issues
I recently had my trowout bearing and accuator replaced as well as made sure they put in only the super DOT4 fluid. The clutch works flawlessly now, but I'm an aggressive driver so I guess I need to check my fluid more often than every 2 years. At least I know now to check it more often, like every fillup.
Thanks again to the GGOAT!!!, I am in an arm wrestle with the Dealer about this right now, fluid boiling over and staining my garage floor etc... The picture of the GM logo on the can that says "super DOT-4 shut them up today but I left without a final means and method to service my SSR. I am so glad to have this forum, I will get a fresh head of steam and back to the stealership in a day or so.
Took mine in for an oil change on Monday and asked them to look in the clutch fluid reservoir and the went Eew! Called me 5 hours later and stated that they were all out of SUPER DOT 4 and to come back when it comes in. They agreed to the TSB tonneau cover hinge and strut replacement and will replace the stereo buttons since the black is peeling off. Running board dilemma on another thread.
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With all this clutch stuff and not really seeming to come up with a perm/fix, I may just be looking at a C6 Corvette instead of the Z06, 6speed. I would not be able restrain my self from running hard and would be a major thorn at the dealer with the same type of problem happening now.
My SSR is an auto but my Vette was going to bo a stick, and I have been watching this topic. Now I still have time before I go get one so guess iam going to see how it turns out here.
This is one of the many reasons this site is so very very good. Everyone shares what they find to work or doesn't. And sometimes can be applyed to other GM cars too.
My SSR: 06/6sd Sil on Blk-2SS, Chrome pack,Magnaflow. #23284
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Originally Posted by Pasta Mike
With all this clutch stuff and not really seeming to come up with a perm/fix, I may just be looking at a C6 Corvette instead of the Z06, 6speed. I would not be able restrain my self from running hard and would be a major thorn at the dealer with the same type of problem happening now.
My SSR is an auto but my Vette was going to bo a stick, and I have been watching this topic. Now I still have time before I go get one so guess iam going to see how it turns out here.
This is one of the many reasons this site is so very very good. Everyone shares what they find to work or doesn't. And sometimes can be applyed to other GM cars too.
Thanks folks and great post Sis, Pasta Mike....
Mike...I looked a Vette last June but dismissed the thought. No way I'm I getting into a GM 6speed again. One and done. I'll speak for myself.....if the SSR wasn't so cool I would have dumped it 6 months after I bought it. The clutch sucked from day 1...was replaced and still sucks. Guess I'm driving like a soccer mom
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Clutch Stuck Information
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