My SSR: "Slingshot Yellow" 05 auto License plate "BIG V8"
Diablo Preditor - My observations
Many of you I am sure want just a little more responsivness from your SSR's and do not want to go wild with modifications and spend lots of money.
I'm gonna start this off by saying That I'm just an older guy who knows lots more about flat head Fords and nail head Buicks than I ever will about these new fangled computer controlled motors. I'm not an authority and don't claim to be. I do think that I still remember what fast feels like.
With that said I have an automatic 05 SSR and the only thing I have done performance wise to my baby is to remove the maf screen. As it comes from the factory this vehicle leaves something to be desired from a performance standpoint. In my opinion its logy off the line once it gets rolling it's great but off the line it doesn't live up to what it seems it's potential should be. Today I installed a Diablo preditor tune. It was relatively easy even for me and my dear brothers and sisters let me tell you, it woke my baby up! Gone is the logy delay coming out of the hole. I personally do not think that the up shifts are any stiffer however the down shifts into passing gear do feel more agressive. Two other things I noticed is my motor always seemed to have a slight stumble at idle when warm which is now gone, and the belt squeal at the 1st to 2nd gear shift at full throttle is also gone? These are just my seat of the pants observations. I can't say if it is faster or quicker but it is more pleasurable to drive. In my opinion $$ well spent.
I too am an old schooler!!! After you get the thing rolling it's performance speaks for itself. Mine is dead out of the hole and has the stumble. I have been looking at the programmers. I will have one by the week end. Glad to hear there is still hope. On the cooling thing I may put another fan on the front and operate it by an old fashion toggle switch when I need it to kool down. The new world has gone to auto everything just like fast food.
oc
Check EBAY for the Diablosport Programmer, There is a guy on there selling them that has the offer link. He will sell and ship you one for $310 to your door..
My SSR: "Slingshot Yellow" 05 auto License plate "BIG V8"
Preditor
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Originally Posted by OC
I too am an old schooler!!! After you get the thing rolling it's performance speaks for itself. Mine is dead out of the hole and has the stumble. I have been looking at the programmers. I will have one by the week end. Glad to hear there is still hope. On the cooling thing I may put another fan on the front and operate it by an old fashion toggle switch when I need it to kool down. The new world has gone to auto everything just like fast food.
oc
Check in parts and accessories for sale.. 05 Indy Yello has a brand new preditor for sale, his Doc said he had to stop racing. He is a good guy and I'm sure you would have no problem and you could probably save some scratch I would have bought it but I already had mine on order when he put his up for sale.
Hope this helps
My SSR: 19608 Silver BOD 12/20/04 Purchased 11/04/05 Auto/Predator
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Originally Posted by poppa
Many of you I am sure want just a little more responsivness from your SSR's and do not want to go wild with modifications and spend lots of money.
I'm gonna start this off by saying That I'm just an older guy who knows lots more about flat head Fords and nail head Buicks than I ever will about these new fangled computer controlled motors. I'm not an authority and don't claim to be. I do think that I still remember what fast feels like.
With that said I have an automatic 05 SSR and the only thing I have done performance wise to my baby is to remove the maf screen. As it comes from the factory this vehicle leaves something to be desired from a performance standpoint. In my opinion its logy off the line once it gets rolling it's great but off the line it doesn't live up to what it seems it's potential should be. Today I installed a Diablo preditor tune. It was relatively easy even for me and my dear brothers and sisters let me tell you, it woke my baby up! Gone is the logy delay coming out of the hole. I personally do not think that the up shifts are any stiffer however the down shifts into passing gear do feel more agressive. Two other things I noticed is my motor always seemed to have a slight stumble at idle when warm which is now gone, and the belt squeal at the 1st to 2nd gear shift at full throttle is also gone? These are just my seat of the pants observations. I can't say if it is faster or quicker but it is more pleasurable to drive. In my opinion $$ well spent.
Thought some of you might like to know.
Did exactly the same. Remove the screen first. Felt better. Installed the Diablo tune. Way better. Like you got rid of my lag, squeal, temp stays between 190-210, .5-1 mpg more. Ditto, on $$ well spent.
My SSR: "Slingshot Yellow" 05 auto License plate "BIG V8"
more $$ well spent
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Originally Posted by shintajay
Did exactly the same. Remove the screen first. Felt better. Installed the Diablo tune. Way better. Like you got rid of my lag, squeal, temp stays between 190-210, .5-1 mpg more. Ditto, on $$ well spent.
The only other mod I would consider down the road, if I still have more "need for speed" is a 2500 rpm stall converter $600-$700 will buy very strong launches and about the same gain as a rear but less hasseles and no adverse gas milage. The LS-2 is such a sweet motor I don't want to mess with it much.
poppa: Based on my personal experience with my own SSR, I would recommend the 3000 rpm stall converter, versus a 2500 rpm stall.
The 3000 does not feel too loose. The 2500 might not be enough of a difference.
I still get 17 to 19 mpg commuting in to work in the morning, with AC on, when traffic is light, even with the high stall converter and the supercharger.
MauiMike: I believe that after a long delay, due to the new electronic archotecture used on the 05 and 06 SSRs, the microtuners are now available for them.
Some of the brand names you might explore are:
Diablo Predator
Superchips
Crane
Many of the manufacturers now post the complete user manuals on-line on their websites in pdf format. This allows you to download them and find out what the features REALLY are, and how easy or hard they are to use.
Before buying one, do a search on this website using "microtuner" as the search key. The information you find can save you a lot of trouble. The precautions when actually loading the tune to the SSR via the diagnostic port are especially important to understand to prevent unpleasant problems.
I also cover microtuners versus tuning software in Chapter 17 of my e-book.
However you do it, be sure to learn about these before buying one, to ensure that its capabilities are consistent with your long term plans.
My SSR: 19608 Silver BOD 12/20/04 Purchased 11/04/05 Auto/Predator
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Originally Posted by MauiMike
Do they make one of these "tuners" for an '06 6 speed?
When I installed my tune, it asked if I had an auto or manual. So I assume it could be used for the 05 manual. I believe the box I have said its for the 05 and 06 SSR. But better check with diablosport.
[quote=shintajay]When I installed my tune, it asked if I had an auto or manual. So I assume it could be used for the 05 manual. I believe the box I have said its for the 05 and 06 SSR. But better check with diablosport.[/QUO t hing killed my pcm. all they would do is send me a repaired predator u7191. (read there warranty and disclaimer.) ]Ido not know what to do with?
There HAVE been reports of microtuners that have either not been able to load a tune onto a specific SSR, or that have started but not completed the process, this rendering the SSR's computer non-functional (at least until rescued by a tuning software package capable of loading not only a tune, but an operating system). These appear to be rare situations, but they have happened.
In some cases, the owner simply has not understood and followed all the procedures correctly. Those procedures can include removing specific multiple fuses from both the underhood and ehind-passenger-seat fus panels, using the hand brake to toggle the parking lights OFF, not opening a door during the procedure, forgetting to remove a cell phone or satellite radio receiver, etc. If you are not detail oriented, a microtuner may not be a good idea for you!
In some cases, the manufacturer simply was not apaprently aware of all the subtle variations in GM factory tunes from one GM model to another, and made bad assumptions.
I don't want to scare anyone off, but there is a tiny chance that a microtuner might not be a simple "troublefree" procedure on some SSRs. MOST of the time, it IS simple and troublefree.
Again, I urge anyone considering a microtuner to do a site seacrh here using "microtuner" and then "tuning software". Lots of good info. Benefit from the experience of others.
Ordered mine today form Thoughbreddiesel for $310. Have it in by dark Friday. Hope that I get more low end and a little help on that kooling thing. I'll let ya know later!!!!
My SSR: Black, '03, 1sb, #1256, License Plate was WOW FCTR
I had a Diablo tune installed on mine ('03). It gave me .3 second better 0-60 time, but I had to run with 93 octane instead of 87. I removed the tune. As far as better shifts, etc. I didn't really pay attention.
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2003 Black SSR #1256 1sb
100000 miles (02/04/07).....
150000 miles 10/22/08
MauiMike: I believe that after a long delay, due to the new electronic archotecture used on the 05 and 06 SSRs, the microtuners are now available for them.
Some of the brand names you might explore are:
Diablo Predator
Superchips
Crane
Many of the manufacturers now post the complete user manuals on-line on their websites in pdf format. This allows you to download them and find out what the features REALLY are, and how easy or hard they are to use.
Before buying one, do a search on this website using "microtuner" as the search key. The information you find can save you a lot of trouble. The precautions when actually loading the tune to the SSR via the diagnostic port are especially important to understand to prevent unpleasant problems.
I also cover microtuners versus tuning software in Chapter 17 of my e-book.
However you do it, be sure to learn about these before buying one, to ensure that its capabilities are consistent with your long term plans.
Jim G
Has anybody actually used one of these in an '06 six speed? I'd like to hear about the difference.
[B]Installed the PREDITOR last nite by dark. Very simple install. All went well. I WAITED TILL TODAY to test this out. This reminds me of the old days. Battery in the back, fuse panel behind the seat and thunder under the hood. Great change in the disposition of the SSR. At this time the motor is running straight up on the gauge in heavy traffic and the power gain is really there. The PREDITOR HAS AWAKENED this SSR. Money well spent. POPPA is right. I am not quit sure of the T/M PART I may have to play with this.
My SSR: 19608 Silver BOD 12/20/04 Purchased 11/04/05 Auto/Predator
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Originally Posted by Silver Wolf
Poppa did you get the PC Interface for the upgrade software? Or did you do everything out of the box?
I also installed to a 05 auto and installed the lastest and greatest. It's simple to update the tune prior to install. Just make sure you put the original OEM tune back in before you update your predator. The website list the current tune and you can check what is on you predator by checking the info prior to install.
I've heard the previous tunes had "bugs". But this one seems to work well.
Diablo Preditor - My observations
I'd like to hear about the difference.
