My SSR: Past owner of '06 Pac Blue, '06 Redline Red, '05 Asphalt Supercharged
Low end power
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Originally Posted by jmulvihill
Hey all! I am new to the forum, but have had my 2004 SSR for about 2 1/2 years. Just found this site about 3 weeks ago when looking for a tuner (went with the Predator). I have found sooooo much good info, it is amazing. And just in time. Since then, I have had my cooling fan fail, and also had them check out the notorious drive shaft "tink" noise. Both the stock fan and the drive shaft were replaced, and Ol' Yeller is back in action.
I am also looking at going to a Flowmaster muffler for my 2004. Also considering dualing all the way back, but I need to read more here on this site and see what others have done that worked well. I will either do a Super 44 if I stay non-dual although change it to dual past the muffler, or go full dual. If anyone has a good shop in the north Dallas area (I am NE of McKinney) that does good work, please let me know. I want to be sure that I get a good shop that does good work.
Again, I have not read the entire forum yet, but has anyone done a full dual system back, including dual cats, mufflers, etc? If so, what were the results for power, and what are the things I need to look out for? I am currently fully stock on the engine and drivetrain, other than the Predator tuner and an Amsoil filter.
I would love to get some low-end power, at least enough to get some noise out of the tires off the line. Right now, even with TC off, I get nadda. I know it is a heavy truck, so I may just be battling physics. I am not really looking to replace the rear gears to a 4.10, etc at this point in time. Funny that I am worried about squealing tires, since I am not a real wild man when it comes to driving Ol' Yeller, but I would like to have it there for some fun every now and then.
Thanks to all who have posted and given me sooo much info in the short time I have been here. Great to have this kind of info available. I will assist anytime I can. If you are in the Dallas area and need anything, let me know.
My SSR: 2006 Racy Aqua Blur 6spd Front end all Chrome/SS Tuned/ported
Nice lead CaorlinaPistol - I found this whole thread/posts very interesting - brought up great points. Fun to also see our Orange Park friend Jim King talk about doing donuts. He was our instructor at Daytona this year.
I read through the linked thread from CarolinaPistol above. Thanks for the assist.
I have the new Predator tune in the car, but I did not "reset" the computer by pulling any fuses. I was told I did not have to, rather that the computer would recalibrate itself over time. I have a good 100 miles on the new tune with 93 fuel and at best there is a SOTP difference. Shift point changes are obvious. Maybe that is all I am going to get with the stock setup, but I can get no spin at all from the tires.
I have a 2004, and when I look at the fuse panels to "reset" the computer as discussed, my fuse #27's (inside panel and under-hood panel) are HomeLink and Windshield Washer respectively. I do see 2 fuses for PCM on the under-hood panel. Would these be the right ones? Do I pull both?
My SSR: Black, '03, 1sb, #1256, License Plate was WOW FCTR
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Originally Posted by jmulvihill
I read through the linked thread from CarolinaPistol above. Thanks for the assist.
I have the new Predator tune in the car, but I did not "reset" the computer by pulling any fuses. I was told I did not have to, rather that the computer would recalibrate itself over time. I have a good 100 miles on the new tune with 93 fuel and at best there is a SOTP difference. Shift point changes are obvious. Maybe that is all I am going to get with the stock setup, but I can get no spin at all from the tires.
I have a 2004, and when I look at the fuse panels to "reset" the computer as discussed, my fuse #27's (inside panel and under-hood panel) are HomeLink and Windshield Washer respectively. I do see 2 fuses for PCM on the under-hood panel. Would these be the right ones? Do I pull both?
My SSR: 06 six speed pacific blue over smokin asphalt
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Originally Posted by ggoat!!!
I researched this fully last year. I installed several mufflers on my 2006 6 speed...including the Flowmaster Super 40 and the 40. I ended up going with STRAIGHT PIPE, which is PERFECT. No one could have convinced me to do this until I spent $$$$ trying different mufflers trying to get that "sound". I thought it would be tooooooooooo loud, but it's NOT AT ALL. Automatics are probably a different story, since they cruise at a higher RPM....but straight pipe is quiet and rumbly at idle, quiet at 70, but like a cannon shot when you slam it. I'd like to compare it side by side to Mike's system on a 6 speed. I bet they sound close...
What did you do to "add more power" last year and this year? I am stock right now, and do not plan to do anything more radical than the exhaust. I want a more aggressive sound than what the stock provides. The wife is not a problem, as she also thinks it needs something deeper.
I have read the other posts about the Super 40's not being very loud, and they went to straight pipes. I guess it is all subjective and comes down to just what the driver wants for sound.
I will have to do some more research on the various FlowMasters and try to make a decision. Hopefully I can find a good exhaust shop here in Dallas that can assist me in the final process.
Thanks!
Joe .........
Well when I got the SSR I had a super charger put on it and it run pretty good 13.80's at 101 so I wanted it to sound good so that winter I got a Flowmaster cat back system made for the SSR with 50, Sounded good, The next summer I had a set of SuperMaxx headers with hi flow cats and it was about right then, Good sound when you got on it and after you got up to speed you could talk, Hear the CD, Then last year I had a set of Comp mag 1.85 rockers with rpm kit and dual bee hive springs and that put it right on the line, Just a little to loud getting on it but not bad after you were up to speed, I liked it and everyone that heard it said it had it own sound, They loved it, Put out 408 RWHP and 497 RWTQ and run mid 12's at 108, Well now I put the 5.3 on a engine stand and built a LS3 with Dart 225 heads, Eagle balanced stroker crank, H rods, JE pistons, Had the headers, Cats and crossover pipe coated, Lingenfelter did the block and machine work so I asked them what would be the best cam for this engine and they said hands down for a super charged LS3 the GT2-2, Over 600 lift with my rockers but acts like stock on the street and toped off with a Razor alcohol injection, Noting radical but man is it loud now, And it run good before but this thing is unreal now
Thanks so much! There is so much info out here that it can be tough to try and find it all. I saw the 2005 data, but missed this. I just pulled the fuses and will let it sit for 30 minutes. I am looking forward to what this will do for my performance.
Well, I did as instructed with fuses #13 and #29 for the PCM. I reset the Predator tune to the standard performance tune for 91 fuel to start the LTFT adjustment process from scratch. After about a 30 minute drive, I had to go up +1% on the injector slope to +5 since the LTDT was running at -5 to -6%.
We will have to wait and see what it does for the performance on Ol' Yeller over time. Still no ability to break the back tires loose with TC off, but SOTP feel says it is a bit peppier when I get up the power band. I guess only time will tell.
I want to know what Devastator has in his 2004 SSR that lets him lay down that120 feet rubber trail! What has been changed from stock on his ride? I would be happy to get to 120mm from my rig!! They will not even chirp! Good thing it is such a stylin' ride, or I would be SOL!!
WOW. That is a bit more than I plan to do. I MIGHT put in a 4:10 rear end and the new muffler/exhaust, but that is it. Maybe with what I plan to do, the Flowmaster 40 or 44 may be OK and not too loud.
My SSR: Black, '03, 1sb, #1256, License Plate was WOW FCTR
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Originally Posted by Double-L
Well now I put the 5.3 on a engine stand
sooooo.....if someone needed a new engine, would this one be available?
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Originally Posted by jmulvihill
Still no ability to break the back tires loose with TC off, but SOTP feel says it is a bit peppier when I get up the power band. I guess only time will tell.
I want to know what Devastator has in his 2004 SSR that lets him lay down that120 feet rubber trail!
Joe ....
I can only break mine loose if I power brake....which is probably what Devastator did. I do notice that if I mashed the gas pedal ALL the way down, there is a pause before accelleration, but if I push only 3/4 down, there isn't and I get a faster launch. My best time (I have an '03) 0-60 was 6.1 seconds with the Predator...I have since removed the tune and use 87 octane again.
BTW you did fill up the tank with 93 and run it BEFORE putting in the tune right?
I don't think there will be enough time to get the tires to break loose with just the Predator tune....my best guess is the 4:10 or 4:56 gears or NOS would be the cheapest route.
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2003 Black SSR #1256 1sb
100000 miles (02/04/07)....
150000 miles (10/22/08)....
175000 miles (3/2/10)....
183000+ today
If I power brake, the engine just seems to bog down. That is with WOT or partial throttle.
I have switched over to the 93 fuel before adding the Predator tune. I have also pulled the PCM fuses (today) as suggested to reset the tables and let it start to relearn from scratch. I had always used 87 fuel in it for the past 2 1/2 years. This seems to have helped so we will see where it goes after I get some miles on it. Was there a reason that you switched back to the lower octane fuel and removed the tuning? Just curious.
My SSR: Black, '03, 1sb, #1256, License Plate was WOW FCTR
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Originally Posted by jmulvihill
If I power brake, the engine just seems to bog down. That is with WOT or partial throttle.
I have switched over to the 93 fuel before adding the Predator tune. I have also pulled the PCM fuses (today) as suggested to reset the tables and let it start to relearn from scratch. I had always used 87 fuel in it for the past 2 1/2 years. This seems to have helped so we will see where it goes after I get some miles on it. Was there a reason that you switched back to the lower octane fuel and removed the tuning? Just curious.
Thanks!
Joe ...
sort of...I can get a best 0-60 time of something like 6.5 with 87 octane, so spending an extra $.20+ a gallon when I drive 30,000+ miles a year for 0.4 seconds I save at some traffic lights and expressway on ramps......But for some reason I still might like to have a super charger (at $7,000)
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2003 Black SSR #1256 1sb
100000 miles (02/04/07)....
150000 miles (10/22/08)....
175000 miles (3/2/10)....
183000+ today
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Originally Posted by Double-L
Well now I put the 5.3 on a engine stand
sooooo.....if someone needed a new engine, would this one be available?
Well I was thinking if I ever sold the SSR it would have a low mileage stock engine but then again I don't ever plan on selling it so I don't know what I will do with it
My SSR: "Slingshot Yellow" 05 auto License plate "BIG V8"
Did you remember
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Originally Posted by jmulvihill
If I power brake, the engine just seems to bog down. That is with WOT or partial throttle.
I have switched over to the 93 fuel before adding the Predator tune. I have also pulled the PCM fuses (today) as suggested to reset the tables and let it start to relearn from scratch. I had always used 87 fuel in it for the past 2 1/2 years. This seems to have helped so we will see where it goes after I get some miles on it. Was there a reason that you switched back to the lower octane fuel and removed the tuning? Just curious.
Thanks!
Joe ...
Hi did you remember to turn off your traction control button. The computer won't let the tires burn otherwise.
Hi did you remember to turn off your traction control button. The computer won't let the tires burn otherwise.
The traction control won't stop the tires from breaking lose, Try it, They will break lose and then the t/c will come on, If you can't break the tires lose it makes no difference if you have it on or off, When I raced mine with a super charger I raced with the t/c on when the track was bad, The tires would break lose and then bite and break lose again and then bite and go
Yes, I had TC off. I just cannot seem to get the stock 5.3 to do it in my SSR, even with the performance tune. I am not much of a tire squealer, so it is not that big of a deal. I just thought that it should at least have the potential to do it, and was giving it a go.
I guess nothing lost, nothing gained... I still love my SSR!!
Yes, I had TC off. I just cannot seem to get the stock 5.3 to do it in my SSR, even with the performance tune. I am not much of a tire squealer, so it is not that big of a deal. I just thought that it should at least have the potential to do it, and was giving it a go.
I guess nothing lost, nothing gained... I still love my SSR!!
Thanks!
Joe ...
when I got my 5.3 TC on or off it would chirp the tires when I took off hard with the stock tune, Didn't need to power brake it, Sure wouldn't smoke them, Even when I put a super charger on it still wasn't a tire smoker, I won a lot of races because of that, When you say it bogs the engine when you power break it I don't know I would want to have things checked out by someone who knows the SSR, Good Luck
Well, I had the dealer check it out last week when they were replacing the cooling fan and the drive shaft. They said it was all checking out fine, and it was operating as all SSRs operate and was in-spec. I am going to try disabling the TM with the tuner and see what effect it has.
Well, I had the dealer check it out last week when they were replacing the cooling fan and the drive shaft. They said it was all checking out fine, and it was operating as all SSRs operate and was in-spec. I am going to try disabling the TM with the tuner and see what effect it has.
Thanks!
Well if it was mine I would find a good tuner and have it scaned and then work on the tune for what you want, Good Luck
Well, disabling the TM did not get rid of the hesitation from a standing start. It stayed about the same. Still no breaking loose of the tires. Rather disappointing, but no big deal. I really do not need to be burning rubber to love this car!
Shoot, I may even try going back to 87 octane with the Diablo 87 tune to see how much pep it adds. Heck, just the changes to the shift points would be a great addition! If performance on the 87 is good, I may stay there. I need to see if the extra $7.50/fill-up for the hi-octane fuel is really worth it for my driving habits. With no tire squealing capabilities (that would be worth $7.50/fill) if I were to want to, it may just be money down the hole for my normal tame driving style.
I will still have to look into a new Flowmaster. At least give it a deeper growl, even if the bark will be worse than the bite.
My SSR: Black, '03, 1sb, #1256, License Plate was WOW FCTR
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Originally Posted by jmulvihill
Shoot, I may even try going back to 87 octane with the Diablo 87 tune to see how much pep it adds. Heck, just the changes to the shift points would be a great addition! If performance on the 87 is good, I may stay there. I need to see if the extra $7.50/fill-up for the hi-octane fuel is really worth it for my driving habits. With no tire squealing capabilities (that would be worth $7.50/fill) if I were to want to, it may just be money down the hole for my normal tame driving style.
I will still have to look into a new Flowmaster. At least give it a deeper growl, even if the bark will be worse than the bite.
Thanks all!
Joe .....
I put on a Magnaflow catback system...because I liked the 5" tips coming out the back. Once you see the 5" tips, you really think the OEMs are too small....so don't look at them if you don't want to spend the money
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2003 Black SSR #1256 1sb
100000 miles (02/04/07)....
150000 miles (10/22/08)....
175000 miles (3/2/10)....
183000+ today
Found out today that Flowmaster has a new muffler out, I think it is called the
"Super 44" a 40 series muffler. Supposed to sound like the old "Glass-Packs" from way back when.
Anyone else hear about this new item??? Tom
I had the `flowmaster `super 44 put on this afternoon and it rocks! $79.95 shipped on Ebay, Great Deal, terrific sound. You will love it!
Mark
The second one does sound tougher. Looks to me like there both 40 series. I maybe wrong but I don't think that is the sound of the Supper 44, I do not think they have the sound clip on there site yet. I will call them Monday.
To hear the Super 44....go to the home page and click on the video for the Chevelle to hear what the super 44 sounds like!
When I had mine Dyno tuned, they said the throttle response has a two second delay from the factory.
The Dealer will NOT change that. My throttle response has been changed to 100%.
When I touch the throttle, I have no delay.
They had my computer out and on the bench to make the changes, which included, throttle response, quicker shift pattern, fan set to come ON at 185 degrees and BELOW 35mph.
Also the factory had a speed limiter set on the computer at 105mph. They removed that. We tuned to 128mph. Gas milage went up 3mpg on 87 octain.
That was with 3:73 standard gears, I have changed the gears to 4:10 and lost the 3mpg on the highway. It did improve city milage and I believe that is because it can move the weight easier w/lower gears.
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Originally Posted by jmulvihill
Well, disabling the TM did not get rid of the hesitation from a standing start. It stayed about the same. Still no breaking loose of the tires. Rather disappointing, but no big deal. I really do not need to be burning rubber to love this car!
Shoot, I may even try going back to 87 octane with the Diablo 87 tune to see how much pep it adds. Heck, just the changes to the shift points would be a great addition! If performance on the 87 is good, I may stay there. I need to see if the extra $7.50/fill-up for the hi-octane fuel is really worth it for my driving habits. With no tire squealing capabilities (that would be worth $7.50/fill) if I were to want to, it may just be money down the hole for my normal tame driving style.
I will still have to look into a new Flowmaster. At least give it a deeper growl, even if the bark will be worse than the bite.
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