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Old 12-29-2010, 05:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Installation of lc32 cm and Mikes plate.

I have both coming and need to know if it can be installed without a lift or is it to big of a job for that? I like doing my own work but I dont need a ball buster.Thanks
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The Frame Stiffener is OK with out a lift but the LC32 is a lot more difficult with out one.

Can be done but you will not have much room under the R.

Here are some pictures that may help.

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1. Remove cross brace
2. Drill holes in front plate, 03/04 and early 05.
3. Frame bolted to front engine cross member
4. Remove OEM Cross Member
5. Install LC32.

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Hand tools and jack stands - no problem. Me and Joe did the install in his driveway
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Crossmember Installation

Can the installation be done on a four-post lift or must the front wheels be off the ground when removing and reinstalling the lower control arm fasteners?
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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With hand tools and a pair of jack stands, Joe did mine too laying flat on his back in his driveway.
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Can the installation be done on a four-post lift or must the front wheels be off the ground when removing and reinstalling the lower control arm fasteners?
You can do it with a 4 post lift, 2 post lift or jackstands. All depends on what is available and how comfortable you are under the truck.

The critical thing is that you don't change the loading on the front suspension while the parts are unbolted. As long as there is no poisitional change in the suspension, everything that is unbolted should hold still until you get the hardware bolted back in place.

It would be a really dumb thing to unbolt the lower crossmember and then put the truck back on the ground and move it..... right? This is about the only "bad" thing I can think anyone would possibly do......

You'll still need to get a front end alignment after finishing to be sure that it goes back on the road as good as it can get....

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Hand tools and jack stands - no problem. Me and Joe did the install in his driveway
Same here.
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Did Mike's Frame Brace on my ramps.

Did LC32 at Lonnie's on his two post.

You have to remove alignment bolts and replace. Re torque to 185 lbs.

Should have alignment checked AFTER install.

I did, NO CHANGE but worth the $20 bucks to make sure.

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You have to remove alignment bolts and replace. Re torque to 120 lbs.
I don't think so.
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I don't think so.
I'll be recommending the 177 foot pound number from now on....... Thanks Topspin.

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According to my 05 service manual 177 lb. ft. is the correct torque for the large (M16) front crossmember bolts. I checked the bolt stretch once, when I was reinstalling mine, and 180# gave .006" stretch which is good for that size bolt. I think there's some confusion with the front control arm bolt (which doesn't get touched in the crossmember removal), which is torqued to 192 lb. ft. I've seen 120-125# thrown around as a proper torque for the M16 bolts - that's NOT enough and the bolt could possibly loosen.

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Sorry guys, I thought we had used 120 ftlbs. Checked with Lonnie an he said we were at 185 ftlbs.

My Mistake.

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Sorry guys, I thought we had used 120 ftlbs. Checked with Lonnie an he said we were at 185 ftlbs.

My Mistake.

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Thanks again for great pictures Dicktator.
It might be an idea to edit Post #9 to the correct torque in the event someone doesn't read far enough in the thread.
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I live in northern California and would like to know if anyone near me has installed these on their R?
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Thanks again for great pictures Dicktator.
It might be an idea to edit Post #9 to the correct torque in the event someone doesn't read far enough in the thread.
Thanks, did that!

Did LC32 at Lonnie's on his two post.

You have to remove alignment bolts and replace. Re torque to 185 lbs.

Should have alignment checked AFTER install.
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I live in northern California and would like to know if anyone near me has installed these on their R?
Where in "Northern California"?

Remember Nor Cal starts around San Jose (Southwestern Nor Cal) and goes all the way to Oregon.

I'm in central Nor Cal ... Redding ! Or what I like to think of as being part of Jefferson State

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To answer your question I'm about to install it on mine.
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I'm about an hour north of San Fransisco in a small golf course community called Hiddenbrooke. Are you going to install both the crossmember & the stiffening plate? When are you going to do it?
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1. This is what is removed
2. This is part of what you install, LC32
3. Bolts that have to be removed
4. Jeff removing OEM cross member off my SSR
5. Jeff working on removal

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1. What comes off
2. Opens engine compartment
3. Bar/Bolt
4. Installed
5. Final

This is the ultimate in handling.

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