I own an yellow 05 SSR 6 speed. I installed the Magnacharger, K&W Suspension, Dynamaxx Headers / Converters and high speed rated tires. The exhaust is stock.
Now the Truck is running 281 km/h (174 mph) on the GPS in 5th gear. In 6th gear i can go 255 km/h (160 mph). Not bad.
I love the truck!
But i would like to go 300km/h (186 mph). Would a perfomance cam will help me? A better exhaust? I guess i need about 50 Horses more....and a little bit dragster idle sound would be nice...
My SSR: '03 RED vin1337, '06(lastoneinblack) vin 24107..Sadly sold '04UV,'05SILVER,'06PACBLU FPR
Now that the speed limiter is removed, there is still room for improvement in the tuning of the ECM. I don't know if you have a dyno tuning facility in your area, but a knowledgable computer tuner can get you closer to your goal. Magnacharger is a very good tune, but they leave a little room for improvement. They tune to a safe setup so you don't run too lean or detinate your engine. Different perameters can be set to give you more power. But this puts you on the edge of hurting the engine if done wrong.
Opening up the back half of the exhaust will also help. Maybe consider electric cutouts, or true duels. 174 mph is also pushing the aero dynamic limits, as the fat fenders can make the truck unstable when you approach 200mph. Have fun and be safe!
I´m running Pirelli PZero and they are a big difference to the original tires, espacially in wet conditions.
I live in Frankfurt. We have only a few SSRs in germany, no one knows this car. So it is great fun to flash the lights at BMW M3 or Mercedes SL in the left lane. They are always very confused if they are passed by an pickup truck!
My SSR: 05 6 sp. with 4.56 gears, ZR1 clutch, Edelbrock intake, Lunati cam, Crane rockers, C6 modified pan
If you're making extended high speed runs there's a couple things that would concern me. The pushrods, valve springs, retainers and valve locks could use an upgrade. At the same time a camshaft change would give a considerable horsepower increase. Roller tip rocker arms also would help if you go to a higher lift cam. The oil system is the other area of concern for high speed running. At the very least overfill the pan, by a quart. The best solution would be a modified pan with an additional 2 quarts added capacity. A good professional tuner could certainly find some additional hp in your combination, but I don't know the availability of one over there. I spent 18 months in New Ulm in the Army. It's certainly a beautiful country. I think the best my 1957 Opel hit was 135 Ks, going down the Alligator.
I´m running Pirelli PZero and they are a big difference to the original tires, espacially in wet conditions.
I live in Frankfurt. We have only a few SSRs in germany, no one knows this car. So it is great fun to flash the lights at BMW M3 or Mercedes SL in the left lane. They are always very confused if they are passed by an pickup truck!
Excuse me, coming through, excuse me, excuse me coming through on the left, pardon me coming through. It's enough to make you giggle like a 13 year old girl.
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Maggie comes with a 3" pulley. You can drop the size to 2.9 for an additional 1 psi of boost or to 2.8 for ~ 2 psi gain. Tuning is a must here as any detonation will cause serious damage to the engine.
Change the rear end gears to 4.10 from the 3.73. Engine rpm will be about 10% higher for any given speed which will get you higher up on the HP & torque curves when you are running fast in 6th gear.
My SSR: 05, Silver Auto, Line-X Bed, X-Member and Plate
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Excuse me, coming through, excuse me, excuse me coming through on the left, pardon me coming through. It's enough to make you giggle like a 13 year old girl.
I have driven many times in Frankfurt while working for Bosch and those left lane drivers move real fast. At about 1/4 mile they start flashing their headlights or else they will near run into the back of you. The golf wasn't up to the task maxed out at 115mph while the Porche and BMW 7 series are coasting by at about 155+. Now watching an R go buy at 170 on those roads, thats a story.
I have driven many times in Frankfurt while working for Bosch and those left lane drivers move real fast. At about 1/4 mile they start flashing their headlights or else they will near run into the back of you. The golf wasn't up to the task maxed out at 115mph while the Porche and BMW 7 series are coasting by at about 155+. Now watching an R go buy at 170 on those roads, thats a story.
My SSR: 05, Silver Auto, Line-X Bed, X-Member and Plate
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Must be many accidents and death as a result
I recall nationally road fatality is average to other western nations but when they happen the freeways are closed an ambulance helicopter flies in and they clear the road quickly. Their freeway road manners are very good but the speeds are so high. I think the freeways here are as good if not better in many cases, another thing, semi trucks drive far right and no pullout like here. FYI, 70 -80mph is fairly average and the road repairs keep speed down too... sound familiar.
Surprisingly, the Autobahn is safer than U.S. highways. In 2001, the death rate there was 27 percent lower (0.59 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled versus 0.81 per million for the U.S. interstates. (Article from the internet).
2010 Article states "The fatality rate on the western autobahn has been virtually identical to the death rates on U.S. Interstates for over ten years."
So how can they drive at 150 to 200mph and have the same fatality rate.
The reason may be found here: QUOTE: " [Germany is] a country that takes its driving very seriously. This is understandable when you realize that a German driver’s license costs [over $2000], after a minimum of 25-45 hours of professional instruction plus 12 hours of theory, and such a license is good for life. A little different here where, if you can memorize 70% of a pamphlet on BASIC road rules you get a license".
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Surprisingly, the Autobahn is safer than U.S. highways. In 2001, the death rate there was 27 percent lower (0.59 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled versus 0.81 per million for the U.S. interstates. (Article from the internet).
2010 Article states "The fatality rate on the western autobahn has been virtually identical to the death rates on U.S. Interstates for over ten years."
So how can they drive at 150 to 200mph and have the same fatality rate.
The reason may be found here: QUOTE: " [Germany is] a country that takes its driving very seriously. This is understandable when you realize that a German driver’s license costs [over $2000], after a minimum of 25-45 hours of professional instruction plus 12 hours of theory, and such a license is good for life. A little different here where, if you can memorize 70% of a pamphlet on BASIC road rules you get a license".
What happens when an American driver wants to drive in Germany.
[quote=MnMsToy;940150]What happens when an American driver wants to drive in Germany.
"An American tourist — who likely knows no German beyond Gesundheit, and less about German traffic rules — can rent a car and drive in Germany with his or her US driver’s license. But a non-EU resident has to get a German license after six months in order to drive in Germany without breaking the law". Haben Sie das SpaBtrieban
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My SSR: Slingshot Yellow VIN 20778 Born 05 May 2005 (05/05/05)
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Surprisingly, the Autobahn is safer than U.S. highways. In 2001, the death rate there was 27 percent lower (0.59 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled versus 0.81 per million for the U.S. interstates. (Article from the internet).
2010 Article states "The fatality rate on the western autobahn has been virtually identical to the death rates on U.S. Interstates for over ten years."
So how can they drive at 150 to 200mph and have the same fatality rate.
The reason may be found here: QUOTE: " [Germany is] a country that takes its driving very seriously. This is understandable when you realize that a German driver’s license costs [over $2000], after a minimum of 25-45 hours of professional instruction plus 12 hours of theory, and such a license is good for life. A little different here where, if you can memorize 70% of a pamphlet on BASIC road rules you get a license".
Very interesting statistics, Art.
Out of curiosity, any information on Cell Phone usage while driving in Germany?
I own an yellow 05 SSR 6 speed. I installed the Magnacharger, K&W Suspension, Dynamaxx Headers / Converters and high speed rated tires. The exhaust is stock.
Now the Truck is running 281 km/h (174 mph) on the GPS in 5th gear. In 6th gear i can go 255 km/h (160 mph). Not bad.
I love the truck!
But i would like to go 300km/h (186 mph). Would a perfomance cam will help me? A better exhaust? I guess i need about 50 Horses more....and a little bit dragster idle sound would be nice...
Stephan
Stephan must have gone to bed after the post. The current time in Germany is 5:15 AM
My SSR: Slingshot Yellow VIN 20778 Born 05 May 2005 (05/05/05)
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Originally Posted by JOHN317
According to travel data on tourist sites it is illegal to use your cellphone while driving in Germany. violations receive hefty fines.
Good for Germany!
I have never been particularly fond of Cell Phone Drivers but since being rear ended at a traffic light about two years ago by an IDIOT on her cell phone . . . I have grown to despise them.
As far as I'm concerned, they are the most arrogant drivers on the road with absolutely no respect for the safety of anyone or anything else in sight.
Using the cell phone with a handsfree set ist allowed in germany. But if i recieve a call i slow down to 100 mph or less, it´s safer.
You have a lot of speed limited ares in germany, mostly about 75 mph. I think only 25% of the Autobahn is without any Speed limit.
A common travelling speed at the left lane is about 110 - 130mph. Going real fast (170+) is only for fun / race and for short times, maximum 1-2 minutes. Because it is quite stressfull. And you can do that only if there is no traffic, the best time is sunday morning or in the night. But if you know what you are doing its still safe. High speed crashes are very very uncommon.
I think a 2.9 pulley, open exhaust and some dyno tuning would be the best for the beginning. I´m not running into the rev limiter in 5th gear. So i think its not necessary to change the gears in the back end.
I´m running Pirelli PZero and they are a big difference to the original tires, espacially in wet conditions.
I live in Frankfurt. We have only a few SSRs in germany, no one knows this car. So it is great fun to flash the lights at BMW M3 or Mercedes SL in the left lane. They are always very confused if they are passed by an pickup truck!
What happens when an American driver wants to drive in Germany.
I go to Germany about every year, and the driving takes a little getting used to, but once you know the signs and the rest of the protocols, it's no problem. That said. the autobahn is no place to relax if you are in the left lane with a car that can't scoot. Last time I spent a long time on the autobahn, we went from Ramstein to Prague and averaged 90 mph - in a 4 cyl. Skoda. When I did venture into the left lane, I made sure I could pull back in in a timely manner. All in all, the drivers there pay a lot more attention to what they are doing than we do here.
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The original size, 255/45R19 and 295/40R20. Two different models of the PZero in Front an Back. The same modell was not available in both sizes.
With the old tires i was driving about 50 mph in heavy rain, and it was still scary. With the Pirellis i can go 70-80mph in the same conditions an stil feeling safe.
Did you buy your SSR in the US or in Germany? If you bought it in Germany I am curious about the cost. If that is considered impolite disregard the question.
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Did you buy your SSR in the US or in Germany? If you bought it in Germany I am curious about the cost. If that is considered impolite disregard the question.
No Problem. I´ve bought it 2008 with 2k miles from a dealer in germany. The prevoius owner bought it in the US an shipped it to germany. I spended 40K EURO.
My SSR: 05 6 sp. with 4.56 gears, ZR1 clutch, Edelbrock intake, Lunati cam, Crane rockers, C6 modified pan
I believe the rev limiter or the gearing might end up being the limiting factor. My limiter, stock, was set @ 6300 rpm. 6300 in 5th gear will get you 177 mph, if the tires are only growing to 29.75". If tire growth goes to 30.0" you will get to 178.7. I have no idea how much those tires actually grow at high speed?!
Concerning adding boost, be careful as the LS2 has a static compression ratio of 10.9-1. I don't know what octane gas you have available over there, but detonation is very possible with the high gear loading you're putting on your R. A larger cam along with the bigger pulley would be the best route. You could end up with the same boost amount, but greatly enhanced cylinder filling.
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I hate to be a wet blanket, but carefully consider what you are risking, for what reward.
Will the difference in feel or bragging rights, between 174 and 186, be worth risking your engine? Truck? Life?
If you want it, go for it, but be smart about it.
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My SSR: 2003 "Ilsa" True Duals w/Jones Glasspacks, Eibach Springs, Addco Sway Bars, 4.56 Gears
Yep, my 2.8 pulley took it up to around 10 pounds of boost. We're still working on getting the tune correct for that much boost and true dual exhaust.
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Couple of things that are easier to do....
Maggie comes with a 3" pulley. You can drop the size to 2.9 for an additional 1 psi of boost or to 2.8 for ~ 2 psi gain. Tuning is a must here as any detonation will cause serious damage to the engine.
Change the rear end gears to 4.10 from the 3.73. Engine rpm will be about 10% higher for any given speed which will get you higher up on the HP & torque curves when you are running fast in 6th gear.
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