Tuner for 410 rear gear

pugpower · 05-07-2010, 08:07 PM

I've read a bunch of old posts saying that a microtuner cannot make speedo correct for a rear gear change (going to 410). Are the newer tuners able to do that?
I don't want to buy ine if it will not make the speedo correct with the 410.

Thanks,

PUG

G&R'SSR · 05-08-2010, 08:58 AM

The Predator will and a whole lot more.

jackatg450 · 05-08-2010, 09:14 AM

I have an '05 auto and a new Predator. It will not change the transmission control modulator for a gear or tire change. I went on their site, posted the question, moderator said it will not support that change. You will have to go to a custom tuner or send your modulator to one that has the software to do it, such as LS2 Edit.

I was quoted $800 for the gears and labor. Fluids and other supplies extra. Plus $200 to flash the tcm.

Jack

Double-L · 05-08-2010, 10:03 AM

A 6 speed you will not be able to tell any difference with the 4.10 gears, I couldn't tell any difference with a auto going to 4.11 gears

xs-cash · 05-08-2010, 10:30 AM

predator will not correct the speedo, go with 4.56 gears, well worth it!!
i paid $ 700 or so a couple years back
go with the oem gears too!
you'll have to get your computer re-flashed to correct the speedo.

hdflstf · 05-08-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Double-L

A 6 speed you will not be able to tell any difference with the 4.10 gears, I couldn't tell any difference with a auto going to 4.11 gears

I have a 6 speed and disagree. You will feel the difference with the 4.10s. Even more with the 4.56s. Yes, I've run both...

RUN ROD RUN · 05-08-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Double-L

A 6 speed you will not be able to tell any difference with the 4.10 gears, I couldn't tell any difference with a auto going to 4.11 gears

I disagree. I have an 04/with auto and have change to 4.10 and it much better ... way better as a matter of fact.

pugpower · 05-08-2010, 04:57 PM

Well I can tell you I am pretty stuck on the 410 rear. I don't want to go too low. I have read many posts saying you get to WOT in 1st gear really quickly with the 456. As silly as it sounds, if I really do not feel that the 410's have done enough, I will try the 456 at that point. I was just hoping that there was a "Plug and Play" microprocessor to make my speedo correct.
Prices I am hearing are great because the best price I can find on the Motive gears is $420 for the gears and bearing kit. I believe I will have the garage order the gears just for the warranty factor.

Still welcoming any/all advice and comments!!

Thanks,

PUG

RUN ROD RUN · 05-08-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pugpower

Well I can tell you I am pretty stuck on the 410 rear. I don't want to go too low. I have read many posts saying you get to WOT in 1st gear really quickly with the 456. As silly as it sounds, if I really do not feel that the 410's have done enough, I will try the 456 at that point. I was just hoping that there was a "Plug and Play" microprocessor to make my speedo correct.
Prices I am hearing are great because the best price I can find on the Motive gears is $420 for the gears and bearing kit. I believe I will have the garage order the gears just for the warranty factor.

Still welcoming any/all advice and comments!!

Thanks,

PUG

Bearing kit? I don't recall any bearing kit when I change over to 4.10

pugpower · 05-08-2010, 05:10 PM

I wanted to ask about that too! There is a Bearing/Shim kit that you can get that I do not know if you need. The kit is actually more than the gears. The Motive gears are $193.33 and the Timkin Bearing kit is $216.10.
As I have stated, this is a learning process for me as well...

DetTweety · 06-08-2010, 07:19 AM

I have an '05 auto with the 410 GM gears, it was a major improvement, I had the LS2 Edit done, but they never got my speedo correct. faster I go more it's off. I'm waiting when I get my new cam installed Then I'll get it re-tuned. For now I cross refrence my speed with my Garmin.
I do highly recomend the 410, Yank 3000 torque converter and the Corvette servo. They are inexpensive installs and will make a world of difference. Most bang for your buck, so to speak. Just my 2 cents.

pugpower · 06-08-2010, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DetTweety

I have an '05 auto with the 410 GM gears, it was a major improvement, I had the LS2 Edit done, but they never got my speedo correct. faster I go more it's off. I'm waiting when I get my new cam installed Then I'll get it re-tuned. For now I cross refrence my speed with my Garmin.
I do highly recomend the 410, Yank 3000 torque converter and the Corvette servo. They are inexpensive installs and will make a world of difference. Most bang for your buck, so to speak. Just my 2 cents.

Tweety... I see you are from NJ. If you want speedo correct (and a great tune) talk to Bryan Herter at Pcmforless

PCMforless.com

My 410's are now installed and I am running his tune and loving it. He can also tune for your cam, which is a move I am considering for the future...just wanted to let you know.

Good luck,

PUG

DetTweety · 06-08-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pugpower

Tweety... I see you are from NJ. If you want speedo correct (and a great tune) talk to Bryan Herter at Pcmforless

PCMforless.com

My 410's are now installed and I am running his tune and loving it. He can also tune for your cam, which is a move I am considering for the future...just wanted to let you know.

Good luck,

PUG

thanks for the info but NC is kind of far

pugpower · 06-09-2010, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DetTweety

thanks for the info but NC is kind of far

Actually his home is in PA (still a pretty good drive for you, but you can ship your PCM to him, have it programmed and he'll ship it back.
That may be a little more of a challenge with the cam, but he's a sharp guy (real motorhead too!!) Might be worth your while.

In any event, just my $.02...He can certainly make the speedo correct as well.

Good Luck,

PUG

MnMsToy · 07-17-2010, 09:22 PM

bump