I post this here because I know the SA folks, even though it happened in Iowa.
If you take a look at the weather it isn't good for driving. Hit a patch of ice and went into the ditch off of the interstate. Did 2 or 3 rolls and came to a stop, the roof assembly completely collapsed. No tow trucks allowed out there right now but I'll see what I can do about pictures, pretty sure that shes done for.
On the bright side the old roll bar held up and as far as I can tell I came away without a scratch. Still gonna wait a couple days before the final assessment, the roof hit my head as it was coming in. No problems right now but sometimes these things have a way of sneaking up on you. No air bag, but I think that would have done more harm than good.
Lucky I have full coverage and accident forgiveness and all that good stuff. I don't know if I will get another , these roads aren't very forgiving.
My SSR: #23198 06 Blue 3SS #375 of 532 - Birthday 12/21/05 - Took delivery 9/5/06 (2nd owner)
Ouch!!
Sorry to hear about this, I do hope you are OK. It bothers me that here is another accident that sounds like the airbags should have deployed and did not. If it is a total, please post the VIN# so that Cash can do his thing and I hope you will get another because you know how much fun they are. Just need to know when the weather indicates it sould stay in the garage.
Again, I am sorry this happened to you.
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My SSR: #23198 06 Blue 3SS #375 of 532 - Birthday 12/21/05 - Took delivery 9/5/06 (2nd owner)
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So you have the engineering analysis that shows the airbags should have deployed??
NO, I just wonder what it takes. There have been too many front hits, roll overs and glancing front hit that report no deployment. It is troubling to me.
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Sorry to hear about this Silver Streak. Rather or not you in any pain, I suggest you see your doctor as soon as possible for a full exam as something might start hurting later on as a result of this accident.
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It bothers me that here is another accident that sounds like the airbags should have deployed and did not.
My understanding is the airbag should only deployed on a head on accident.
NO, I just wonder what it takes. There have been too many front hits, roll overs and glancing front hit that report no deployment. It is troubling to me.
I think is has to do with the deceleration (acceleration in the negative direction). Given the SSR is heavy and has crush zones, etc I think you'd pretty much need to hit a concrete wall head on to get the airbags to deploy.
Sounds like the designers did a good job as he can walk away from a rollover regardless or airbag deploy or non-deploy. I suspect had they deployed matters may have been worse.
Tom; you're supposed to do your flying in the air. So sorry, maybe time to look ar four-wheel drive. Nebraska weather can be bad for your health. Take care. Jim H
So sorry to hear about your accident! I am very glad to hear you weren't seriously injured, but do be careful and pay attention to how you feel the next couple of days.
There's a lot to be said for the crash-worthiness of the SSR. I'm thrilled that you walked away from it. RRR is right, go get a THOROUGH inspection on yourself. Schedule a follow-up in about 10 days as well.
The SIR system is a complex package designed to keep you safe in as many ways as possible. From the manual, page 9-144....... "The sensing and diagnostic module (SDM) is a microprocessor and the control center for the SIR system. The SDM contaoins internal sensors along with external sensors, if equipped, mounted at strategic locations on the vehicle. In the event of a collision, the SDM compares the signals from the internal and external sensors to a value stored in memory. When the generated signals exceed the stored value, the SDM will cause current to flow ythrough the apopropriate deployemnt loops to deploy the air bags or pretensioners......." If you have any doubts about how much engineering went into the SIR system, go read the "Description and Operation" in the manual...
I'll bet you didn't know that the seat belts have a "pretensioner" designed to pull all the slack out of the seat belt.... It is similar to the air bags, in that it ignites a canister and creates a gas charge to retract the belt....... Test your memory...... did the seat belt yank you into the seat and hold you there?
For me...... I would consider buying another SSR, because I had a bad one and walked away...... Big Blue Ox - - care to comment???
I'll bet God has a purpose for you, my friend...... great that you are still with us....
There's a lot to be said for the crash-worthiness of the SSR.
I'll bet you didn't know that the seat belts have a "pretensioner" designed to pull all the slack out of the seat belt.... It is similar to the air bags, in that it ignites a canister and creates a gas charge to retract the belt....... Test your memory...... did the seat belt yank you into the seat and hold you there?
Mike
That it did. I don't have any bruise or soreness from it but I sure as hell wasn't going anywhere.
Thanks Mike, I feel more secure now. I hope others do as well.
All this time I thought it was a simple system too....... Until I started reading in the manual. There's a lot that goes into the system. The main (forward) air bags actually have two stages each. The computer decides how much deployment is needed......
I want to take my hat off to the design team that specified the requirements and test team that gathered the data to validate those requirements were met. The Service Manual tells you an overview of how it works..... That's only the "summary' for understanding the basic system operation. I've been involved in similar stuff for aircraft engine control systems....... It's not a simple task.
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That it did. I don't have any bruise or soreness from it but I sure as hell wasn't going anywhere.
Yup....... the SIR system was there, doing its job...... It decided that you didn't need airbags, but DID need to be strapped in tight....... I'm sure it only fired the driver's side. Had you been carrying a passenger, it would have pulled that side too.
My SSR: 05 6 speed black has a K&N cold air kit descreened and Diablo tuner & Eric's hood
Tom We to are glad your OK. Your supposed to make those loops in the big jet the Gov. suplied. But don't hit anything with that our taxes are bad enough Keep warm and have a great Christmas
Tom & Cindy
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Sorry to hear of your accident, glad to hear you're OK. It's been a rough start for winter in the Plains states with second big storm in 2 weeks. I know you got hit with alot of ice yesterday and the worst is yet to come for many of us. Two feet of snow for some by the end of tomorrow. We've had rain/ice and starting tonight....snow.
Wide tread tire designs and rain/ice/snow just aren't a good match.....like surfboards on water.
One year ago today our daughter and family (including 6 month old) had a rollover accident at 4 AM on I-80 in eastern IA, going 60mph and hit black ice. No one was injured but the vehicle was totaled. Other drivers weren't so lucky during this same storm that day. We count our blessings. A reminder to all that safety trumps getting there on time or even just getting there. This year they (along with other family) were scheduled to make the same trip from OH but are waiting until after Xmas since we're having bad weather again. Not being together over the holidays won't be the end of the world all considered.
Sorry to hear about this Silver Streak. Rather or not you in any pain, I suggest you see your doctor as soon as possible for a full exam as something might start hurting later on as a result of this accident.
I agree, don't wait, (here it 2 days later) let us know you are still alright, head injuries are not anything to take lightly, the truck can be replaced but lives are to important
My SSR: "Babe" '06 Pacific Blue/Chrome/6pd #22407, born 10/14/'05, and #21393, died 2/16/'07.
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There's a lot to be said for the crash-worthiness of the SSR. I'm thrilled that you walked away from it. RRR is right, go get a THOROUGH inspection on yourself. Schedule a follow-up in about 10 days as well.
The SIR system is a complex package designed to keep you safe in as many ways as possible. From the manual, page 9-144....... "The sensing and diagnostic module (SDM) is a microprocessor and the control center for the SIR system. The SDM contaoins internal sensors along with external sensors, if equipped, mounted at strategic locations on the vehicle. In the event of a collision, the SDM compares the signals from the internal and external sensors to a value stored in memory. When the generated signals exceed the stored value, the SDM will cause current to flow ythrough the apopropriate deployemnt loops to deploy the air bags or pretensioners......." If you have any doubts about how much engineering went into the SIR system, go read the "Description and Operation" in the manual...
I'll bet you didn't know that the seat belts have a "pretensioner" designed to pull all the slack out of the seat belt.... It is similar to the air bags, in that it ignites a canister and creates a gas charge to retract the belt....... Test your memory...... did the seat belt yank you into the seat and hold you there?
For me...... I would consider buying another SSR, because I had a bad one and walked away...... Big Blue Ox - - care to comment???
I'll bet God has a purpose for you, my friend...... great that you are still with us....
Mike
Hi Silver Streak
Glad you survived and are able to join the club of rollover survivors...
I'd get a front wheel drive for ice driving, preferably with studded tires.
Other than that, I replaced my SSR with another SSR, and am totally happy. Safety is my first concern, with performance my second after that. If I was to drive my SSR in snow, or on ice, I'd get winter tires, not the RSAs (which are an unfortunate choice for the SSR, IMHO) or the KDWs I run on now, which are very good for wet traction and braking.
I'd also go to the doctors and request x-rays or a MRI, just to be safe. I had a concussion, and have had a jammed vertebrae at my skull, which I never discovered until two years later when the chiro could not release my head. It was easy to remember why and how, but too late to connect for medical services. Oh, well.
There are a lot of great vehicles out there, but my Babe is still my favorite, in any weather!
Oh, and I won't drive on ice... that is just crazy!
Silver Streak you said "Lucky I have full coverage and accident forgiveness and all that good stuff. I don't know if I will get another , these roads aren't very forgiving".
You don't know if you will get another!! You must have "BUMPED" your head real hard.
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, these roads aren't very forgiving.
Silver Streak I sure am hoping you have no ill effects after the fact 
enough have been reported at impacts where they should have deployed 
Keep warm and have a great Christmas
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