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Old 09-27-2011, 03:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hood Emblem Issues.

About a week before heading out to the Flagstaff SSR Rally, I broke one of the attachment points on my chrome hood emblem while putting on the new hood emblem guard. Apparently, I didn’t have the three holes lined up correctly and tried forcing the emblem guard on wrong.

Not having a spare emblem, I decided to try using the high strength 5 minute epoxy sold by DEVCON.

After mixing a little dab of epoxy with the hardener, I applied it the two broken points. Still had a little leftover that wasn’t dried so I added that to the center mounting points for added strength.

Two weeks and 1,500 miles later and it seem to hold well.

Due to some overheating issues I had, I took the hood emblem off before handing the SSR over to the dealer. I was worried it might break again if the garage mechanic would put too much pressure behind the emblem while opening the hood.

Before I put this emblem back on, I’m wondering if anybody has tried beefing up the area that prone to such weakness.

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put a piece of tape across the small end, like where your arrows are, and fill the backside with the epoxy. stand it up on-end and you may even get all 3 at the same time. I did our 2 a couple of years ago and they are both still good.
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Jeff, I repaired several. Used aluminum angle cut and bent to fit. Pop rivet on and they are still using them.

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put a piece of tape across the small end, like where your arrows are, and fill the backside with the epoxy. stand it up on-end and you may even get all 3 at the same time. I did our 2 a couple of years ago and they are both still good.
I have done this as well Jeff. Still working fine.
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put a piece of tape across the small end, like where your arrows are, and fill the backside with the epoxy. stand it up on-end and you may even get all 3 at the same time. I did our 2 a couple of years ago and they are both still good.
I thought about doing that too. Seem like a lot of epoxy to mix up with that hardener ... by the time it mix up, it nap time.
May need to look into some other kind of epoxy if I go that route.


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Jeff, I repaired several. Used aluminum angle cut and bent to fit. Pop rivet on and they are still using them.

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What ... you pop rivet into plastic? Can't picture rivet heads poken though a shinny chrome hood emblem. Got any pictures?

I've been thinking ... if I can find a mesh like fabric, coat it with epoxy on both sides and put it on like I've illustrated in this picture, then that might work.
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I thought about doing that too. Seem like a lot of epoxy to mix up with that hardener ... by the time it mix up, it nap time.
May need to look into some other kind of epoxy if I go that route.
you may as well use up the rest of the tubes. no sense in keeping the leftovers forever....
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I've been thinking ... if I can find a mesh like fabric, coat it with epoxy on both sides and put it on like I've illustrated in this picture, then that might work.
You can use window screen, fiberglass or aluminum.
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What ... you pop rivet into plastic? Can't picture rivet heads poken though a shinny chrome hood emblem. Got any pictures?


I looked for my pictures, have't found them yet. Tony, Golfer2, may have some pictures. We fixed his with pop rivit and it doesn't show.

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IF you us the epoxy, besure to rough that area good, or it will not stick.
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what is wrong with the hood emblem guard ?

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what is wrong with the hood emblem guard ?

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Nothing. just didn't line up the three holes correctly while putting it on & kinda force one thread though. Should have drilled a slightly larger hole before painting the emblem guard.
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I have an OEM Chevrolet hood emblem from my 03 in excellent cosmetic condition, with one of the attachment points repaired with super glue. I replaced the brushed emblem with a chrome one when I added the chrome bars on the grill. Anyone needing this item can PM me.
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Nothing. just didn't line up the three holes correctly while putting it on & kinda force one thread though. Should have drilled a slightly larger hole before painting the emblem guard.
A few years ago I used some of that two part epoxy putty (yellow & Blue) that you nead together to repair a hole in a fiberglass tub. That stuff was unbelievable, it was there ten years, never chipped, leaked, hard as nails. It may be the same stuff they are selling on TV as amazing putty. It works, I know that much.
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About a week before heading out to the Flagstaff SSR Rally, I broke one of the attachment points on my chrome hood emblem while putting on the new hood emblem guard. Apparently, I didn’t have the three holes lined up correctly and tried forcing the emblem guard on wrong.

Not having a spare emblem, I decided to try using the high strength 5 minute epoxy sold by DEVCON.

After mixing a little dab of epoxy with the hardener, I applied it the two broken points. Still had a little leftover that wasn’t dried so I added that to the center mounting points for added strength.

Two weeks and 1,500 miles later and it seem to hold well.

Due to some overheating issues I had, I took the hood emblem off before handing the SSR over to the dealer. I was worried it might break again if the garage mechanic would put too much pressure behind the emblem while opening the hood.

Before I put this emblem back on, I’m wondering if anybody has tried beefing up the area that prone to such weakness.

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Does spaying form on the backside sound good?
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Spraying foam on the backside does not sound good either.
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Heck Jeff.....

The way you grabed my emblem & protector from George, I thought you were trying to brake it off! I watched you, so PLEASE don't tell me anything different Then you left and didn't even interduce yourself while I was there talking with everyone..... What was up with that? I used "ZAP A GAP" and plastic tubing to strengthen the emblem mounts, it's some where in my thread. I can tell you this Jeff...... That you need to remove the platting for any type of glue to work correctly, even with a satin emblem."ZAP A GAP" welds the plastic peices together.... or shall I say it melts them together far better then any epoxy will ever hold the two peices together that are in question.

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Jeff, I had purchased a chrome emblem. Before I put it on the truck, I used JB Weld and filled in the area mentioned. Used masking tape, taped off the side of the gap, and mixed up enough to do one section at a time. Proped the emblem up on it's end, and worked the spaces full, let it dry for a day or two and then installed....that was two years ago, with no problems.
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I always thought that using two way emblem tape before the break would avoid any future issues..heck it sure keeps auto emblems in place. GM should have used both screw studs and 2 way tape. My.02 cents, Rob
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lots of good tips here for preserving that emblem such as roughing up the area around the bolts mounting bosses.

Use die grinder or a Dremel tool with a small tipped stone and remove all that slippery plating and leave lots of grooves for the epoxy to bite into.

If you haven't got these tools thenif nothing else just chew it up with a razor blade knife which will add some lacerations for the epoxy to get a tooth into. Anything is better than laying the epoxy over chrome plating.

standing the emblem on one end at a time and doing those three sides first then the other and then the front side will give a bullet proof prevention. I say about three tubes of 88 cent Harbor Freight epoxy will do the job. I find HF epoxy a little slow to cure but it does the job once it has the extra time to cure up.

while laying a little window screen in there would not hurt it will be very messy and just something that will not add any strength to speak of. Once that epoxy is cured you will break the molding around it but never ever through it.
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The best stuff to use with epoxy is a nylon/polyester reinforcing tape.
Go to a hobby store that sells R/C (radio control) model supplies and ask for the reinforcing tape. I comes in various widths from 1/2" to 3".
While you are there you can also pick up the epoxy - 5min, 15min or 30 min. Use the 30min for more working time and a stronger bond.
R/C guys (and I am one) having been using this for years to reinforce the center joint on model plane wings. I have cartwheeled my share of planes over the years and have never broken the center joint - mangled the rest of the wing/plane pretty good though.
Some modelers these days use CA or instant glues. Although they set quick they do make for brittle joints, so I would go with the epoxy.
In either case you will have to roughen the surface to get good adhesion.
Hope this helps.
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The best stuff to use with epoxy is a nylon/polyester reinforcing tape.
Go to a hobby store that sells R/C (radio control) model supplies and ask for the reinforcing tape. I comes in various widths from 1/2" to 3".
While you are there you can also pick up the epoxy - 5min, 15min or 30 min. Use the 30min for more working time and a stronger bond.
R/C guys (and I am one) having been using this for years to reinforce the center joint on model plane wings. I have cartwheeled my share of planes over the years and have never broken the center joint - mangled the rest of the wing/plane pretty good though.
Some modelers these days use CA or instant glues. Although they set quick they do make for brittle joints, so I would go with the epoxy.
In either case you will have to roughen the surface to get good adhesion.
Hope this helps.
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I love shopping at the local hobby shop. I use to do R/C racing back in the late 80's. Thanks for your suggestions.
That 30 min epoxy sounds like what I want as I'm physically a slow worker.
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I posted for FYI!!

If you want to prevent future problems,read this post!

Fyi>>chevrolet emblem support alert
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Don't recall seeing your thread before ... Sure which I did.
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