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Old 04-01-2011, 09:49 PM   #271 (permalink)
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Is it just me, Cash . . .

I find it strange, correction: downright suspicious, that anyone would feel the need to be so protective of a destroyed vehicle's VIN.

Possibly planning to use that VIN in a less than legal way in the future?
I believe no matter what happens with wrecked vehicles there has to be disclosure to be legal.
If a rolling frame from a Scrap title is married to a body from a Scrap Title it needs to be retitled under a completely new VIN and the old VINs are deleted from the registry. Those are the VINs we really want to know and there is absolutely no reason not to divulge them as they are gone.
Others that are wrecked under a Salvage Title and repaired are to retain the Salvage status. Anything after that becomes murky IMO.
However, it does seem that more liberal laws in a different state will allow some titles branded in another state to be re-registered as a clean title. It creates a problem that probably can only be dealt with if the Title Status is governed by one federal body rather than by individual state and that is never likely to happen. There will continue to be what are referred to as "grey" titles.
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:12 PM   #272 (permalink)
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I believe no matter what happens with wrecked vehicles there has to be disclosure to be legal.
If a rolling frame from a Scrap title is married to a body from a Scrap Title it needs to be retitled under a completely new VIN and the old VINs are deleted from the registry. Those are the VINs we really want to know and there is absolutely no reason not to divulge them as they are gone.
Others that are wrecked under a Salvage Title and repaired are to retain the Salvage status. Anything after that becomes murky IMO.
However, it does seem that more liberal laws in a different state will allow some titles branded in another state to be re-registered as a clean title. It creates a problem that probably can only be dealt with if the Title Status is governed by one federal body rather than by individual state and that is never likely to happen. There will continue to be what are referred to as "grey" titles.
The key term here, Cash . . . LEGAL
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Old 04-02-2011, 12:34 PM   #273 (permalink)
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Whoa there Doophus....you are hanging the guy for nothing... I don't know him or have met him but from my talk with Ed, I think he just doesn't want to be bothered by anyone...especially a stranger. He is wealthy, older and busy so I suppose he is used to getting his way. I'm pretty sure he is doing nothing illegal.
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Old 04-02-2011, 12:45 PM   #274 (permalink)
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Whoa there Doophus....you are hanging the guy for nothing... I don't know him or have met him but from my talk with Ed, I think he just doesn't want to be bothered by anyone...especially a stranger. He is wealthy, older and busy so I suppose he is used to getting his way. I'm pretty sure he is doing nothing illegal.
I am sure Doophus was not directing his comment at anyone in particular as we were just generalizing about what can happen. I certainly was not saying Bill was doing anything wrong and keeping the VINs private is his prerogative. What he is doing by rebuilding and selling with a salvage title is a very good thing, trying to keep more SSR's on the road. I would like to know the salvage title VINs of course for the record but the primary interest to me are the parted and scrapped ones where the VIN will not resurface. It would be great to know all of those to help establish the diminishing numbers.
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Cash...he might not have those around anymore. Ed said that they take every nut and bolt loose on the scrappers and catalog the parts. He even told me, "Do you know how many friggin parts there are in a SSR?"... I imagine the rest gets scrapped to a yard...wouldn't ya think? I never pressed as I wasn't sure it was even you that called them. I will ask though the next time I talk to Ed.
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Cash...he might not have those around anymore. Ed said that they take every nut and bolt loose on the scrappers and catalog the parts. He even told me, "Do you know how many friggin parts there are in a SSR?"... I imagine the rest gets scrapped to a yard...wouldn't ya think? I never pressed as I wasn't sure it was even you that called them. I will ask though the next time I talk to Ed.
Yes, it was definitely me that Ed has recollections of speaking with. You are likely correct assuming they probably do not have the parted ones around any more and that is the point I suppose. For the ones that are "gone" with only nuts and bolts and other pieces there is nothing to protect.
I can understand he wants to protect his Salvage Titled VINs as that is the way he has always done his business. Maybe if he was assured the important ones to us are not the ones he is rebuilding and putting back on the road, but the ones he is destroying. He will have a record of those VINs and hopefully he will grant us access to them. It would be great if you can help arrange that. I don't seem to get anywhere speaking with Ed and have no access to Bill, who ultimately makes the decisions.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:11 PM   #278 (permalink)
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This one "just" sold. Some goombah put a couple hundred miles on this since buying it from Steve Bailey Honda in OKC, OK


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This was one of the Early MY2005 WD1 Pilots built 6.25.2004.
It lived to the ripe old age of 100 anyway just surpassing 100k miles.
This one was owned by Fanatic - Docktergreg who only made one post in June 2005.
However, from the signage in the rear window it appears he still owned it.

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Salvage Title - CoPart AZ
Only 23kmiles
Can't tell much from the lousy pictures but significant enough hit to blow both bags.

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Salvage Title - CoPart AZ
Only 23kmiles
Can't tell much from the lousy pictures but significant enough hit to blow both bags.

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Old 04-18-2011, 06:37 PM   #282 (permalink)
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Salvage Title - CoPart TX
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:50 PM   #283 (permalink)
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This SSR is very similar to the one in the previous post, VIN, color, mileage.

44.5 k miles
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One site states 71580 km so this "might" be a Z49 Canadian build.
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This was owned by SSRFanatic "Clinton" from Los Angeles who has been very a very loyal SSR guy as this was his 6th SSR.
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https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/Vehicl...6&RowNumber=1#

I should add that Clinton had this SSR for sale in 8/2010 so in all likelihood it was a new owner that had the accident.
This truck was likely built 9/19 or 9/20/2005 which are the BODs for a bunch built for proposed MY2007 change that were destroyed immediately. Tough time for PacBlues as there are now 5 in a tight VIN group that were wrecked.
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**This came on the market, repaired and with a REBUILT TITLE - AZ on 8.3.2011.
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Awaiting title status - likely Salvage
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**6/2011 - ericmpd has purchased and is rebuilding
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This was for sale as recently as 4/2011 (no longer in inventory) so the new owner didn't drive it very far. There are no pictures of this one yet but I will insert in this post as available. There is very limited information on IAA at this time but this is the link.

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This is another of the original 69 WD1 Pilots which until today I had been unable to locate. Schram Auto Salvage purchased it from GM who had it at the GM Proving Grounds. I guess with the many thousands of cars I presume they have there I guess it is easy for a few SSR's to get lost. This must have been used for test purposes. Not many details but it was built with cargo carpet, cargo net pkge, gauges and a picture shows a hitch insert. It supposedly has low mileage but not yet confirmed.

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Old 06-10-2011, 03:55 PM   #294 (permalink)
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TRAuctions Birmingham, AL
Flood Damage. Looks like this one got hit by a couple trees in the storm as well.
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Pictures to follow when I get an assist from xoxoxxoBruce.
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Old 06-10-2011, 06:39 PM   #295 (permalink)
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I had contacted lee's dealership asking him to come to the Niagara run last year, its close. We actually pass his dealership on the way to the falls.
His secretary ran interference for him and sent me pictures of another used custom SSR they had for sale at that time. And he did send two picture about his First in Canada truck. One a paper artical about his buy and then a photo of his badgeing.

He is 2 1/2 hours north/east from me, closer to Red Green's place.
this one is for sale again , in edmonton at koch ford, $29.9.
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:49 PM   #296 (permalink)
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IAA San Antonio TX
Wait Certificate - Collision - All over damage
72.5k mi - 3, maybe 4 bags blown - L & R side impact

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Old 06-13-2011, 03:53 PM   #297 (permalink)
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SALVAGE TITLE - FLOOD Damage
Charlie Boiles Auto Sales - McGregor, TX
Fresh water flood - Engine is seized - 2.3k miles
Flood occurred in 2004
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Old 06-21-2011, 06:19 PM   #298 (permalink)
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Silver Wolf's Tutone is up on CoPart
20k mi - So sad.


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This was the rollover that Kwhopper reported. Link - SSR rollover on I-70 in Grand Junction CO
22.5k mi. Big time damage. Colorado Title says - CO Bill of Sale - Parts Only


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Old 07-01-2011, 01:38 PM   #300 (permalink)
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Final Production Run #12/18

This is sad news. Lost to fire, it was a fully loaded Final Production Run PacBlue over Silver.
To the best of my knowledge, this is the first PB/S we have lost. #23095 is the only other I have record of which has repaired flood damage.
I called Total Resource Auctions and was informed they have an "order to pick up" from State Farm Ins but have been unable to access the vehicle. There are no pictures or other detail available yet.

Update 7.12.2011 - I called TRA as still no pictures which I was told will put up shortly. I did confirm this loss was in a residential fire in a high end location. In a separate building a Cadillac Escalade, a Benz and this rare SSR were all lost. It sounds like the roof collapsed on them and I expect the damage to be substantial.

Update 7.13.2011 - Pictures showed up today and as expected it is a mess. From the pictures it almost looks like part of the garage, beams etc, fell inside the cockpit. It seems airbags are non flammable. It took me a minute to figure out the one picture was the engine bay, until I spotted the alternator.
xoxoxobruce extricated the pictures for me. Thanks Bruce

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