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Old 07-30-2006, 10:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Clutch fluid gone!

Anyone else have a problem with losing clutch fluid? My 05 has 12,000 miles. A couple of months ago, I checked it and it was low. There was a black deposit in the resevoir which I cleaned out with a paper towel. I checked yesterday and the reservoir was empty. Truck is under warranty so I can get this fixed. Just wondered if anyone else had experienced this?

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Old 07-30-2006, 10:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This would be the first post I have seen with this problem.
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Old 07-30-2006, 02:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Now you got me worried. I'm at 9800, so I should start looking at that carefully.

Clutch system is so simple, there's only a few places the fluid could possibly be leaking, so hopefully it'd be an easy fix.
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have an 05 with 18,000 miles. My clutch is loosing fluid also. I took it in and they ordered a new one. It goes in next week to get it replaced.
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My new 06 has some residue in the clutch reservoir; fluid is about half full. Don't know if this is how it came 2 weeks ago...
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~18000 miles and not losing any clutch fluid.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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My new 06 has some residue in the clutch reservoir; fluid is about half full. Don't know if this is how it came 2 weeks ago...

BE AWARE...the full mark is embossed on the globe about half way down. It runs at an angle so it is hard to see. I would think you might not want to fill it all the way to the cap!!!

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Old 08-10-2006, 05:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Clutch problems

I had the same black stuff in the clutch fluid. Brought into the dealer for a check, they said all SSR, 6 speed clutches needed to be replaced. Mine is being replaced today and will be ready tomorrow.
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I had the same black stuff in the clutch fluid. Brought into the dealer for a check, they said all SSR, 6 speed clutches needed to be replaced. Mine is being replaced today and will be ready tomorrow.
Could please clarify what you mean by all clutches need to be replaced? Any documentation on this? Thanks!
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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All I know is, I brought my 05 SSR to the dealer for the dirty fluid problem. The dealer said the entire clutch assembly including pressure plate, etc. needs to replaced on all SSR's. This dealer is stocking parts knowing they will need to replace many clutches.
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Old 08-10-2006, 06:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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tech bullitin 1696563 doc 05-07-31-001a clutch pedal will not return @ high rpm
inspect clutch date code replace all clutches prior to date code --
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Old 08-23-2006, 11:38 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well my SSR has been in the shop for 2 weeks and the dealer has just about put every new part imaginable. They are dropping the transmission again today and install two other new parts. I'm not the mechanic type so I have no idea what the parts do. If you have a 05 or 06 six speed get your clutch checked. The cost to repair this problem out of warranty would be astronomical.
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:38 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Well........I have the dreaded "Dirty Clutch Fluid" in my resevoir. Looks like Coca-Cola. I thought i would check the fluid condition after reading several posts on this issue. and sure enough, I'm another one tagged with it!

Took it in to the service dept. this morning and they just called back (after dropping it off) saying the whole Master Cylinder has to be replaced!

They said a rubber grommet located on the rear of the master cylinder has almost completely deteriorated. Which in turn, is causing the residue and discoloration.

Now...let's wait on the parts. (twiddling thumbs).

I suggest that anyone with a 6 speed should check the fluid levels and its condition asap.

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Old 09-22-2006, 08:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Looked at mine. Low and looks like Coca cola as well. Sounds like I'll be doing some PM this weekend.
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:53 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Checked mine

My fluid was dark as well,,,about like Coke when I took it out. I have not clutch problem... just dark fluid at this point.

I refilled it with DOT 4. Seems according to some posts here and on the Corvette Forum, this dark fluid is a heat related problem from the manifold proximity to the lines. But if fluid is not replaced it continues to degrade and cause problems with clutch operation.

Also I was told by a tech at the local dealer that he had talked to GM about this fluid color issue and was told to flush the system and replace with DOT 5 fluid. He did not give me a TSB number for that.

Please note DOT 5 does not mix with DOT 3 or DOT 4 fluid I'm told.

As for mine I'm waiting to see if the fluid turns dark again.

Seems each dealer attacks this problem different???






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Well........I have the dreaded "Dirty Clutch Fluid" in my resevoir. Looks like Coca-Cola. I thought i would check the fluid condition after reading several posts on this issue. and sure enough, I'm another one tagged with it!

Took it in to the service dept. this morning and they just called back (after dropping it off) saying the whole Master Cylinder has to be replaced!

They said a rubber grommet located on the rear of the master cylinder has almost completely deteriorated. Which in turn, is causing the residue and discoloration.

Now...let's wait on the parts. (twiddling thumbs).

I suggest that anyone with a 6 speed should check the fluid levels and its condition asap.

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Old 09-22-2006, 09:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Also I was told by a tech at the local dealer that he had talked to GM about this fluid color issue and was told to flush the system and replace with DOT 5 fluid. He did not give me a TSB number for that.
Any information on that TSB #?
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When I took mine in, the dealer called GM for info, and was told the dark color was normal, due to components being aluminum.

That part makes sense - just rubbing on an aluminum wheel turns a cloth black very quickly.

Haven't had an answer yet on how to flush the system beyond sucking the fluid in the reservoir and replacing it - according to GM, there is no drain in the system to allow it to be flushed.

I need to order the Helms manuals so I can check for myself, but that's the scoop from the dealer.
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
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My fluid was dark as well,,,about like Coke when I took it out. I have not clutch problem... just dark fluid at this point.

I refilled it with DOT 4. Seems according to some posts here and on the Corvette Forum, this dark fluid is a heat related problem from the manifold proximity to the lines. But if fluid is not replaced it continues to degrade and cause problems with clutch operation.

Also I was told by a tech at the local dealer that he had talked to GM about this fluid color issue and was told to flush the system and replace with DOT 5 fluid. He did not give me a TSB number for that.

Please note DOT 5 does not mix with DOT 3 or DOT 4 fluid I'm told.

As for mine I'm waiting to see if the fluid turns dark again.

Seems each dealer attacks this problem different???
Dot 5 is silicone based whereas DOT 3 & 4 are glycol based. They don't mix. I haven't looked at all the parts but I would expect a complete system disassembly, cleaning, and then refill with DOT 5 is possible. Warranty would be killed after doing this I expect. Something to think about though.
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Dot 5 is silicone based whereas DOT 3 & 4 are glycol based. They don't mix. I haven't looked at all the parts but I would expect a complete system disassembly, cleaning, and then refill with DOT 5 is possible. Warranty would be killed after doing this I expect. Something to think about though.

Silicone fluid will swell up the rubber parts!! Be careful
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All I know is, I brought my 05 SSR to the dealer for the dirty fluid problem. The dealer said the entire clutch assembly including pressure plate, etc. needs to replaced on all SSR's. This dealer is stocking parts knowing they will need to replace many clutches.
You really lucked out. My dealer has no idea when my clutch might be coming in. It's very nerveracking having to drive everyday with a bad clutch and no idea how long it's going to be.
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The clutch system was designed for DOT3 fluid so you can use DOT3 or DOT4 only in the system. DOT5 is not compatible with the system and will leak from every seal in the clutch system.
I saw someone do this on a BMW motorcycle several years ago that was designed for DOT4 fluid. They wound up having to replace every piece of rubber in the system. It was expensive and not a pretty sight.
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