Thanks..
I'm already well beyond that. I've got a case number with GM so they are working with the dealer for a resolution - so far no results. Started the process with the BBB for an arbitration hearing in case I get nowhere with GM. Will be contacting lemon law lawyers next week to get that process started id I have no results from the first two. I still have hope that the dealer can take care of me..
Just talked to the dealer (service). They replaced the line that looked as if it might be leaking and then the technician drove the SSR for about 10 miles without incident. I would appear that the problem might be fixed. More to follow on this... If it's fixed, I'd be really curious as to what is residing in that line they replaced..
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The dealer call again and after 50 miles of test drives they could not get the problem tp repeat. It seems that replacing a line in the system did the trick. It's now back home and I get to drive it through the weekend and see if the problem returns. The clutch pedal does fell better/operates better that when I first got it.
I know you're happy to have your ride back. But now for the real question: Why did it take 18 days to find the simple solution to this problem? That is ridiculous!!!
I know you're happy to have your ride back. But now for the real question: Why did it take 18 days to find the simple solution to this problem? That is ridiculous!!!
Simple?? They replaces the master cylinder and slace cylinders for the clutch. Also replaced the pressure plate. These were new parts from vendors that GM doesn't even have part numbers for yet (at least that's what I've been told). The line that was replaced was not expected to fix anything. I would have to guess that there is some sort of contamination in the line making it act like check valve. Since it's all done at the dealer under warranty I can't get too deep into their failure analysis. If it was at home that would be a different story..
I have a Ricochet '05 6 speed and have the exact same problem with my clutch as you describe.
I have just 600 miles on her and have driven around 120 miles today and had the problem all the time. It is especially noticable in 1st and 2nd when the truck lurches as the clutch engages too quickly.
It hasn't stuck to the floor yet but just doesn't feel right and is real hard to drive smoothly.
When releasing the clutch it feels like the pedal is not pushing against your foot, kind of sticking, and then suddenly catches up with you and engages too quickly.
It feels like a bad cable........ if it had one !
I have a problem that I am from England (no, that's not the problem) and have no dealer to return it to.
Do you have the part numbers for the 2 cylinders and the line ? Also do you think it was just the line or was this just coincidence and they maybe realigned or adjusted something else while they were changing the line (possibly accidentally!) ?
I am coming over for a vacation in 3 weeks time to Fort Lauderdale and want to try to buy the correct parts while I am over so I can sort this out myself.
I really would appreciate your help as I am not sure where to start with this problem.
Also does anyone know a dealer or have a contact in a parts dept. who would be helpful with these parts in Fort Lauderdale or Orlando areas ???
Thanks a lot,
Rob
PS I find the shift very long and have ordered a short throw shifter - will post to let you know how it goes unless any of you have done this already ??
My SSR is an 05 with a little over 500 miles on it. The clutch started acting up Sat while backing into a parking space at the store. I thought something was burning at first. Drove back out and no gas peddle pressure. Shut it off and restarted, the peddle came back. The clutch was very soft, very little effort to push peddle to the floor. Got home and parked it. This am called the dealer, explained the problem and they sent a tow truck right out. Explained to the service manager about problems explained here in Fanatic about the 05 clutches and he was surprised to hear it. Called at 1:oopm and SSR still wasn't looked at, told me he would call by 5:00pm to let me know whats up. He didn't. Up to this time I've had no problems with it. Hope GM has a fix on the clutch problems. I'll brief everyone when they brief the solution to me.
Interesting reading! I'm following very closely this clutch situation. You see, I am suppose to take delivery of my aqua blur, 05, V-8, 6 speed SSR later this week. With what I'm reading maybe I'm making a mistake. This vehicle has 4000 miles on it now and I have never driven it. I'll sure be checking this out before signing any papers. Seems very unusual that a hydraulic line would be causing the described problem. Don't we have someone on this forum that works at the Lansing Craft Center. Maybe he could help the guy from England (SSR owner) who is coming over to Fla. for vac. Meanwhile keep us posted on clutch prolem fix. Thanks, great forum. Scheide.
It appears that there is a congentinal clutch problem with the '05 SSR's. I had the same problem with my clutch one hour after I took delivery. The clutch pedal did not return after use.
First the dealer replaced both the master and slave cylinders. That did not resolve the problem. Then they replaced the clutch disk, pressure plate, and throw-out bearing. That did not resolve the problem.
The local service manager enlisted the help of Chevrolet technical support. He consulted with first, second and third level tech support (all by telephone).
When they determined they still didn't have a clue as to what was causing the problem, I took the issue to the general manager of the dealership. Without hesitation, he took that SSR back (actually it was already in their shop) and replaced it with another one exactly like the first (including all options).
Two months and 400 miles later, the second SSR has been flawless. After hearing the other tails of woe on this site, I consider myself very fortunate. I just completed my Sales and Delivery Satisfaction Survey. I can honestly report that I was "Completely Satisfied" in all catagories.
I know we all desperately want to be happy with our choice of vehicles. I hope that Chevy can resolve these clutch situations for everyone else so that we all can be "Completely Satisfied".
Robmac,
See my post on the clutch issue (two below yours). My local dealer is in south Florida. My original SSR is now for sale on the dealers lot. They may now know what caused the problem, and how to correct it. Send me a Personal Message (PM) for information about the dealer name and location.
Paul in Boca
I have a Ricochet '05 6 speed and have the exact same problem with my clutch as you describe.
I have just 600 miles on her and have driven around 120 miles today and had the problem all the time. It is especially noticable in 1st and 2nd when the truck lurches as the clutch engages too quickly.
It hasn't stuck to the floor yet but just doesn't feel right and is real hard to drive smoothly.
When releasing the clutch it feels like the pedal is not pushing against your foot, kind of sticking, and then suddenly catches up with you and engages too quickly.
It feels like a bad cable........ if it had one !
I have a problem that I am from England (no, that's not the problem) and have no dealer to return it to.
Do you have the part numbers for the 2 cylinders and the line ? Also do you think it was just the line or was this just coincidence and they maybe realigned or adjusted something else while they were changing the line (possibly accidentally!) ?
I am coming over for a vacation in 3 weeks time to Fort Lauderdale and want to try to buy the correct parts while I am over so I can sort this out myself.
I really would appreciate your help as I am not sure where to start with this problem.
Also does anyone know a dealer or have a contact in a parts dept. who would be helpful with these parts in Fort Lauderdale or Orlando areas ???
Thanks a lot,
Rob
PS I find the shift very long and have ordered a short throw shifter - will post to let you know how it goes unless any of you have done this already ??
Just saw your message..
Here's the list of parts from the service invoice. BTW, I'm now at ~ 3000 miles with no further clutch issues (fingers crossed of course).
15232236 Actuator
89060078 Cylinder (twice)
Personally, I would be tempted to disassemble the new parts and inspect for scratches and/or contamination before use if I were the one to be doing the R&R. I'm also curious about the materials used. If they are dissimilar and the piston material has a higher CTE I may try to increase the clearance.
Lets us know how the short throw shifter works out as I agree the throw is a bit too long. I'm just thinking the side to side may lose some feel and it may be harder to fidnd the right gears.. with the short throw.
Thanks a lot for the help, I really appreciate the part numbers.
Is the cylinder the master or slave ? Is there another part number if both were replaced ?
Hopefully any stock ordered via Chevy dealers now will be the revised parts and not the exact same as I have from the factory ! Maybe the part numbers have been updated ? - I don't know how they work the numbers if they upgrade a part.
Good idea to inspect the parts before using.
Now have a B&M shifter arrived and ready to fit (very impressed with quality and completeness of parts). May not do this until I have the clutch parts and do all in one job. Will post results.
Noticed the shifter is also angled towards the drivers side which I think will be an inprovement also.
Thanks again,
Rob
Thanks a lot for the help, I really appreciate the part numbers.
Is the cylinder the master or slave ? Is there another part number if both were replaced ?
Hopefully any stock ordered via Chevy dealers now will be the revised parts and not the exact same as I have from the factory ! Maybe the part numbers have been updated ? - I don't know how they work the numbers if they upgrade a part.
Good idea to inspect the parts before using.
Now have a B&M shifter arrived and ready to fit (very impressed with quality and completeness of parts). May not do this until I have the clutch parts and do all in one job. Will post results.
Noticed the shifter is also angled towards the drivers side which I think will be an inprovement also.
Thanks again,
Rob
I don't have any more info than what is on the yellow piece of paper they gave me...
I'll need to contact the service guy to try to get answers for you. A good excuse to get the first oil change done.
Called the dealer this AM as they never called back yesterday. Service Rep said they couldn't find any thing wrong with the clutch. He also told me I wouldn't like his answer. He was right about that ! Yesterday I offered him copies of posts from SSR Fanatic about the clutch problems. He never heard of SSR Fanatic and didn't want them. Today at 10:30 AM I gave him 15 pages of posts and 3 EMails I recvd last night from members about the problem. At 4:00 PM I called and he said they would replace the clutch and thanked me for the posts and EMail and said we have a great club. Also said GM did send out something to the dealers about the clutch and found it after reading our posts. Thanks to all for the info and EMails. It was the info required to stop the runaround that was coming. I believe the service techs just didn't know about the problem. The dealership has gone the extra mile to the fix the problem for me.
I had that problem drag racing a few years back what caused the problem was the pressure plate springs not being strong enough changed the pressure plate cured it for awhile then later on the clutch pedal would be out where it was supposed to be the muncey transmission was in gear but the motor was doing 9000 and it was like in between gears until I lifted the throttle then when the rpm's dropped it was in gear but the race was over everyone thought that I had missed a shift but actually the weights on the 3rd-4th gear syncro were heavy and would float when shifting over 7000 changed to lighter weights worked fine after that....
I would think the problem that your having would be something else....Just fuel for thought...
Dealer called yesterday and told me they didn't replace the clutch afterall. Said it was the pressure plate and GM was in the process of making a replacement part that should be out on recall in about 60 days. Told me to drive as normal until plate is available. I guess I better stay in the local area until clutch plate is changed. I spoke to the senior service tech and he showed me on his computer all problems on the clutch. Also told me a problem on roof hinges was starting. He told me they had a meeting two to three weeks ago and that was the first time the clutch problems surfaced. My question was why did I have to bring in SSR posts to show them if they already knew. The dealership is trying its best to fix the problem, so I guess I'll just have to wait for GM to get the plate out to us.
Since last update I've spoken to the dealer twice to find out any progress on the clutch plate GM is supposed to be making up to replace one in there now. No one seems to know anything again. They told me to drive it and if it breaks down to call them and they'll come and get me. That has me seeing red. The SSr is parked and I'm still making payments as required. I have placed a call to GM. Explained problem to them and they said they would get back to me next week. I think the dealers hands are tied and maybe GM hopes the problem will go away. I explained I bought the SSR to drive and hope they can do something about this. I love the SSR but will not take it on the road to break down again. Has anyone else heard anything about this clutch plate?
From the information above, is GM going to recall the 05 Clutch plate? Not sure if I am reading the message from Vince right. Do you know what the date range is? What serial numbers will this need to be looked at?
Also note from previous comments, I did experance loss of gas pedel function twice. Turned off the car and restarted, this corrected the problem. Any info on this problem woutl be helpful.
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