My SSR: #1 - '06 Pacific Blue 3SS, Chrome, FPR #23962 - Kooks, Corsa and Supercharged - #2 Jim G's Super R!
Failed Inspection...any ideas?
I took the Jim G Super R for inspection when I got back from Texas, and failed for emissions. The guy at Motor Vehicles asked if I had recently put in a new battery...which, Yes...Jim put one in when I took delivery of the Truck. He said it probably has to go through certain cycles in order for it to be ready for the emissions test.
So, BSTPAPAs son checked it out at his shop...and still the same problem. He gave me a copy of the cycles to go through...which I did. I then took the truck back to Motor Vehicles, and failed again. And this time, because I came in after the 45 day limit (oops), I also failed for the gas cap not sealing correctly (wtf).
Anyway....with some of the emissions stuff coming up 'not ready', does anyone know if it could have something to do with the custom tune? Or could it have something to do with the custom exhaust? Or anything else?
I've driven it for roughly 80 hours, about 4000 miles, and I went through the cycles, so at this point, I don't think it could be because of the new battery...but what the hell do I know.
There is a Lyndon Wester dealer near my house, so I could go get that checked out, but I'm not sure if that could be the problem. Any input would be greatly appreciated. My registration might be suspended if I can't figure it out by April 30th.
My SSR: 04 Redline red #11672 born on 6-22-04 adopted 10-14-04 Pinstriping handpainted by "Shakey"
I'd try calling JimG to see what he may have done. Knowing him I would think it is all documented somewhere. Did he disconnect the Catalytic converter and the sensors?
CrosscheckFreak: Your SSR passed emissions inspection here in Texas, after ALL the mods were in place, before I moved out to Burnet County where the emissions inspection is not required (not a metro area). In fact, it passed with flying colors.
So., I suspect that something has changed.
Have you got access to a disgnostic code reader? That could give you some clues as to where to look.
The gas cap is also the FIRST thing to replace. That cap tends to not seal properly after a while, and does not necessarily report as a fault until its performance hits a certain threshold. I had to replace it somewhere along the way already (did not capture the odometer mileage when I did so), so I'd try that first right now.
The cap not sealing could indeed trigger a "not ready", as the "not ready" status can be triggered by virtually any emission-related parameter or sensor report being out of acceptable range.
I took the Jim G Super R for inspection when I got back from Texas, and failed for emissions. The guy at Motor Vehicles asked if I had recently put in a new battery...which, Yes...Jim put one in when I took delivery of the Truck. He said it probably has to go through certain cycles in order for it to be ready for the emissions test.
So, BSTPAPAs son checked it out at his shop...and still the same problem. He gave me a copy of the cycles to go through...which I did. I then took the truck back to Motor Vehicles, and failed again. And this time, because I came in after the 45 day limit (oops), I also failed for the gas cap not sealing correctly (wtf).
Anyway....with some of the emissions stuff coming up 'not ready', does anyone know if it could have something to do with the custom tune? Or could it have something to do with the custom exhaust? Or anything else?
I've driven it for roughly 80 hours, about 4000 miles, and I went through the cycles, so at this point, I don't think it could be because of the new battery...but what the hell do I know.
There is a Lyndon Wester dealer near my house, so I could go get that checked out, but I'm not sure if that could be the problem. Any input would be greatly appreciated. My registration might be suspended if I can't figure it out by April 30th.
The inspection report is below:
I JUST TALKED TO ONE OF THE TECH'S OUT BACK. HE SAID SOMEONE DISCONNECTED THE BATTERY. YOU HAVE TO RUN THE DOG S--T OUT OF IT TO PUT INTO READY MODE. HE ALSO SAID THAT THE EVAP SYSTEM TAKE'S THE LONGEST TO COME UP.
RSSRTOY: Thanks for the confirmation on the EVAPORATIVE system. That is why I l told Steve to get the gas cap replaced. All the warmup in the World won't help if that gas cap does not seal perfectly anymore. It is a known weak point in the emissions system.
CrosscheckFreak: ALL emissions controls were in place and fully operational when I sold it. Full emissions performance was important to me, as I did not know at the time of the mods that I would be moving out of the area subject to annual inspection, and the SSR was my daily driver!
My SSR: #1 - '06 Pacific Blue 3SS, Chrome, FPR #23962 - Kooks, Corsa and Supercharged - #2 Jim G's Super R!
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
The gas cap is also the FIRST thing to replace. That cap tends to not seal properly after a while, and does not necessarily report as a fault until its performance hits a certain threshold. I had to replace it somewhere along the way already (did not capture the odometer mileage when I did so), so I'd try that first right now.
The cap not sealing could indeed trigger a "not ready", as the "not ready" status can be triggered by virtually any emission-related parameter or sensor report being out of acceptable range.
Jim G
Thanks Jim...the fact that it previously passed definitely narrows it down.
The cap didn't fail the first time through, but the emissions did (maybe they didn't check the cap that time). The gas cap only failed the second time through...but I'll replace it, and hope that works.
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Originally Posted by JustaBlur
How far do you drive to get to the inspection station? I have read that the engine needs to be at operating temperature, the longer the better.
I was on the road for about an hour, then waited in line with it running for about another 45 minutes.
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Originally Posted by RSSRTOY
I JUST TALKED TO ONE OF THE TECH'S OUT BACK. HE SAID SOMEONE DISCONNECTED THE BATTERY. YOU HAVE TO RUN THE DOG S--T OUT OF IT TO PUT INTO READY MODE. HE ALSO SAID THAT THE EVAP SYSTEM TAKE'S THE LONGEST TO COME UP.
Thanks for checking with the tech! Yeah...the battery was replaced, but I've driven it quite a bit since then (about 80 hours and almost 4000 miles).
Thanks guys, for all your help. I'll change the cap tomorrow (maybe Friday), and take it through again. I'll let you know how I make out.
My SSR: 05 6 speed black has a K&n cold air kit descreened and Diablo tuner & Eric's hood
Steve,
Every Emission inspector I know says to make sure when ever having a test done to get the vehicle as hot as possible. Don't sit in line waiting for someone ahead of you.
Best thing to do is come straight off the High way and into the test area. You and the family and SSR should move back here where it will stay warm all year long
Tom
My SSR: #1 - '06 Pacific Blue 3SS, Chrome, FPR #23962 - Kooks, Corsa and Supercharged - #2 Jim G's Super R!
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Originally Posted by Tom Savini
Steve,
Every Emission inspector I know says to make sure when ever having a test done to get the vehicle as hot as possible. Don't sit in line waiting for someone ahead of you.
Best thing to do is come straight off the High way and into the test area.
Tom
Thanks, Tom...but If I did that, I would have to plow through 7 lanes, at least 10 vehicles deep, to get into the test area.
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Originally Posted by Tom Savini
You and the family and SSR should move back here where it will stay warm all year long
Steve,
Every Emission inspector I know says to make sure when ever having a test done to get the vehicle as hot as possible. Don't sit in line waiting for someone ahead of you.
Best thing to do is come straight off the High way and into the test area. You and the family and SSR should move back here where it will stay warm all year long
Tom
The temp will not affect the not ready problem. The gas cap can cause the evap problem ! You need to have you SSR scaned for codes to find out which cat and which oxygen sensor are failing.
After disconnecting it should only take about 100 mile to reset the readyness moniters that are failing UNLESS YOU DRIVE LIKE AN OLD LADY .
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Don’t now if this would help but can you go to a different emissions test center?
It my beliefs that no two test outfits are the same even though they are wired up to the same state run DMV computer system and gotta follow the same strict state regulations.
Maybe he should have someone else drive it for about 100 miles. It needs to get hot for the cats to set the readyness moniter.
When i had my auto repair we would have old people come it with 6 year old cars and only 1,500 miles on them and fail the Emission test because the readyness moniters weren't set . We would the there cars out and drive them like we stole them for 1/2 hour and the moniter would set and pass the Emission test
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CrosscheckFreak: It was a while back that I changed that gas cap, so I don't remember the details, but it seems to me that after you change it, the computer still takes x mile or x engine starts before it shuts off the code.
If it's like some other codes, it would be 3 engine start cycles for example, so put some miles and some starts on the new gas cap before trying the test again.
To reduce the wait time in the lineup at the test station, go VERY early, before they open, and right after a hot winding highway run (Not freeway - too steady state to get the engine hot), so that (a) you'll be one of the first ones in line (if not the first) and (b) the engine will still be plenty hot.
My SSR: 2004 Yellow/ purple, sometimes gold #3521 RATICL 2
I just went thru the same thing here in PA. Car was out of inspection when it came out of storage. Put on new exhaust and went an pulled fuse 27. Not knowing how long it takes for all the parameters to come around. Failed emission so I drove it at night and put on a hundred miles. Dropped it off again and it still failed. Mechanic took it out an ran it fast on the highway, brought it back in and tested it quick and it past. So the theory of running it hot sound like a good idea.
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