Hi all this is my last breath for help....does anyone know on here about the indicator/rear lights? Im in europe and am working on a friends SS-R we have what is know as ITV (MOT) but they failed it as we can not here have brake lights and flashing indicators in the same light...so fitted front indicators no probs,rear different game altogether..i have found and used a wire that does not cause the red light to flash indicator and wired to a fitted indicator ie an orange one BUT BUT .... they flash fast as in a normal car blows a bulb?????
the hazard side though flashes at normal speed ??? please help or advise why this is happening?it is though something is detecting a loss of current,ohmage,power etc?Thankyou all......
The flasher relay cycle is usually controlled by resistance. If it's less than what it's designed for, it will flash at a higher cycle.
You may want to contact Vavoom. They live in Australia and had to go through this same thing. While they didn't do the work, they should have the shop's contact info that did.
y purpose in running a wire from the ft t/s to the rear was for trailer wiring on a trailer with separate lamps.
You're right, the existing stop lamps still flash and they are also available to me for trailer wiring purposes...I have no added t/s lamps on the rear of my USA SSR.
In order to stop the turn function of the existing rear lamps, I imagine you could wire them to the high mounted center stop lamp (tailgate). Couple addl issues now; I think the chmsl is led, stop lamps are incandescent and may take too much power for that circuit. Problem could be handled by switching stop lamp bulbs to led to reduce current draw or using a relay. The only other issue that occurs to me is you may get a fast flash due to less resistance in the rear circuit. WHERE IS OUR AUSSIE FRIEND?
So i have to basically ???????? hmm doing my head in i have converted loads of cars like this but this one beats me so how do i find out what to do ???? put a inline resistor to the rear indi? what is the complete ohmage required by the ECU (i`presume) to stop them flashing fast? like i said everything is ok but the indicators flash , but the hazard light switch is ok even though they are going to the same indicators i have fitted? really strange!
The Brake lights and Turn signal are the same on an American made Vehicle. They just use the Flasher to open and close the circuit when the turn signal lever is activated. Just remove the brake wire from going up to the Flashing unit. you will have to replace the Bulb with two #1156 type which have a single element. for your flashers and just use the third brake light for your stop. If this does not work for you your best bet is to make another hole in the back of the tail light lens /fixture an install two seperate bulbs. You will still need to tie into the third brake light. and remove the brake switch wire from going up to the Flasher unit.
Hi Moodyblue good point but like i said i have cut the wire to the rear orig light that did the indicator part and connected that to an orange light(indi).So brake is fine,driven lights are fine but indi fast? so my presumtion if it is a presumtion is like some have said it is a ohm problem! the wire i cut is a live feed the other side straight to an earth.so i presume the ecu or light module detects ello something not right here im going to flash fast because bulb has popped or resistance is to high or low? but like i said with the new indicator lights installed they work fine when i push the hazard button all 4 flash at normal rate but use stork ans they flash fast? so can i rewire the rear by going through hazard light switch or is it just changing a relay?Does anyone have a diagram of the original lay out of the lighting on this car?
I will get there!
Try a 120 ohm risistor on each turn signal wire. I see guys replace their old incandescent bulbs with LED's and they need to have a dropping resistor to make the Flasher do it's job properly.
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Hi Moodyblue good point but like i said i have cut the wire to the rear orig light that did the indicator part and connected that to an orange light(indi).So brake is fine,driven lights are fine but indi fast? so my presumtion if it is a presumtion is like some have said it is a ohm problem! the wire i cut is a live feed the other side straight to an earth.so i presume the ecu or light module detects ello something not right here im going to flash fast because bulb has popped or resistance is to high or low? but like i said with the new indicator lights installed they work fine when i push the hazard button all 4 flash at normal rate but use stork ans they flash fast? so can i rewire the rear by going through hazard light switch or is it just changing a relay?Does anyone have a diagram of the original lay out of the lighting on this car?
I will get there!
I had a similar problem with my Mercedes and it turned out to be the bulb was causing the problem. Someone installed a US 1156 bulb when it really called for a Bosch bulb. The 1156 and Bosch bulb looked a lot a like, but the brake and turn light action did not like the 1156. Once the Bosch bulb was installed all was OK.
So if you are using a non US bulb this may mess up the lights operations.
Just a thought. Good Luck on finding and fixing the problem.
Most of the LED Lamps that are being manufactured today have a Droping Resistor already incorporated in the lamp circuit. This fixed the problem with the Flasher needing resistance to heat the Bi-Metal Switching mechanism.
HI, I have been watching this and unfortunately no one has come up with the answer as yet, i also have the same problem and have tried a 10 ohm and a 50 ohm resistor but with no luck. If i connect a buld in the same place this slows the indicator flash to the right speed. Does anyone who has done this mod remember what size of resistor is needed to get the indicators flashing at the right speed. If any one fancies doing this mod let me know and i'll tell you how to go about it. Thanks in advance.
HI, I have been watching this and unfortunately no one has come up with the answer as yet, i also have the same problem and have tried a 10 ohm and a 50 ohm resistor but with no luck. If i connect a buld in the same place this slows the indicator flash to the right speed. Does anyone who has done this mod remember what size of resistor is needed to get the indicators flashing at the right speed. If any one fancies doing this mod let me know and i'll tell you how to go about it. Thanks in advance.
If you are really having a problem with finding the correct resistance of the Circuit. Then the first thing I would do is check the R. of the Bulb that you state makes the flasher operate correctly. Then of coarse install that size of resistor in parallel. That is to say install your R. across from ground to the hot wire. The other way to precisely determine your Resistance is to purchase a 1.k ohm potentiometer or variable resistor. Install in parallel and start on it's low R. value. Then slowly increase the Resistance on the pot, and when you reach the Ohmage that makes the Flasher work correctly.
Carefully remove the potentiometer, making sure you do not move the turn knob. Then measure the resistance with your Ohm Meter. Then purchase a Fixed Resistor in that amount of Ohm's with at least 1/2 watt rating. If you still have a problem and I truly don't believe you will. Then I would recommend an RC network. RC= Resistance and Capacitance. This is commonly known as a timing Circuit.
Last edited by MoodyBlue : 06-12-2008 at 02:35 PM.
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