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Old 01-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Remote door opener (key fob)

My problem is locking the doors with the remote door openers. I have to be fairly close to lock the doors. Sometimes when I'm next to the R, I have to push the lock button 2 or 3 times before they lock.
Opening the doors or the rear hatch works great, even at a distance of 30 feet or more.
The fobs are original 2003 that came with the R.
I think they have the original batterys in them.
Both fobs act the same way.
Could this be weak batterys in the fobs or it a sensor problem?
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2003 with the original battery?

I would say eliminate that (cheapest thing) first and that just might be all you have to do.
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My problem is locking the doors with the remote door openers. I have to be fairly close to lock the doors. Sometimes when I'm next to the R, I have to push the lock button 2 or 3 times before they lock.
Opening the doors or the rear hatch works great, even at a distance of 30 feet or more.
The fobs are original 2003 that came with the R.
I think they have the original batterys in them.
Both fobs act the same way.
Could this be weak batterys in the fobs or it a sensor problem?
Thank you, Walter
I agree with warrior, also might not hurt to tear them apart and give em a squirt of contact cleaner, I had one on the 96 Firebird that was not working too well, replaced the battery, got a little better, rinsed it out with contact cleaner ..... Works great now ... Just a thought, but use the no residue stuff, I got rear view mirror switches working agin perfectly with this stuff!!!
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My problem is locking the doors with the remote door openers. I have to be fairly close to lock the doors. Sometimes when I'm next to the R, I have to push the lock button 2 or 3 times before they lock.
Opening the doors or the rear hatch works great, even at a distance of 30 feet or more.
The fobs are original 2003 that came with the R.
I think they have the original batterys in them.
Both fobs act the same way.
Could this be weak batterys in the fobs or it a sensor problem?
Thank you, Walter
I always lock the doors with the remotre BEFORE I close the last one since that is what sets the alarm. Have to be pretty close to do that.
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Definitely agree that the batteries would be my fist bet. BUT, I ran into the exact situation with mine and it ended up being the remote touch pads. I replaced the battery and the situation stayed the same, the white buttons on my fob started wearing out and when I replaced the plastic case the remote acted like new again. I think it was the new touch pads under the rubber buttons that mate with the sensor on the circuit board, the old ones were worn somehow and now the new ones make a better contact. The case replacement was about $5 so it's not too expensive if the battery doesn't work.
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Since Both fobs are the same, I'd try the battery first. The inside of the touch pad button is coated with a graphite type stuff. Pushing the button makes the coating close the gap on the circuit board, activating that function. Same as a TV remote. A heavy touch will wear the stuff off the button and then, no more contact..... same goes for using the edge of a fingernail. Just one-more-thing to have to replace....
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Think he's just bragging that his remote batteries lasted almost 10 years!

Seems like I replace mine every 18 months or so...
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Think he's just bragging that his remote batteries lasted almost 10 years!

Seems like I replace mine every 18 months or so...

Well they are at least 3 1/2 years old. That's how long I own it.
I will change the batteries.
Thanks for all the advise.
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Do you have to go to the dealer to have the fobs programed?
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Do you have to go to the dealer to have the fobs programed?
No, after changing the battery, stand close to the car and press lock and unlock at the same time for 7 seconds and good to go.
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Well they are at least 3 1/2 years old. That's how long I own it.
I will change the batteries.
Thanks for all the advise.
Walter
I changed the batteries in both remotes and it's about the same. Lock works OK sometimes and other times I have to push it 2 or 3 times while standing next to vehicle to lock it.
Unlock and rear cover opener work great, 1st push and at some distance from vehicle.
I am having the vehicle scaned with the GM Tech ll scanner next month. I don't know if it will help my situation or not. I am having it scanned because of drivers door window problems. I don't know if the two are related problems.
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The batteries in my '03 fob are original and I use fob #1 2 or 3 times everyday. Not one problem at all.
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I changed the batteries in both remotes and it's about the same. Lock works OK sometimes and other times I have to push it 2 or 3 times while standing next to vehicle to lock it.
Unlock and rear cover opener work great, 1st push and at some distance from vehicle.
I am having the vehicle scaned with the GM Tech ll scanner next month. I don't know if it will help my situation or not. I am having it scanned because of drivers door window problems. I don't know if the two are related problems.
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Walter, Pull your waterfall and check the module for lose or bad connections. Waterfall held on with 5 clips, just pry up gentle and lift off.

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1. Pry up
2. Remove
3. Upper white module/drivers side controls fobs, locks ect.
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Walter, Pull your waterfall and check the module for lose or bad connections. Waterfall held on with 5 clips, just pry up gentle and lift off.

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1. Pry up
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3. Upper white module/drivers side controls fobs, locks ect.

Dick, thanks for the tip. I am in Florida with not too many tools. I think I will wait until the tech day and try that then. Walter
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Dick, thanks for the tip. I am in Florida with not too many tools. I think I will wait until the tech day and try that then. Walter
We can check it out on Tech Day, Feb 9th.

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Hi there,

Iīve got a problem with the fob too. Yesterday I came back home and after parking the car I couldnīt close it with the fob. Also the tonneau cover is not opening. Iīve checked the second remote - no reaction. Batteries are changed and even when the car starts all dashboard lights are on. I guess due to the anti-theft programm?

Has anyone an idea, what to check next?
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Hi there,

Iīve got a problem with the fob too. Yesterday I came back home and after parking the car I couldnīt close it with the fob. Also the tonneau cover is not opening. Iīve checked the second remote - no reaction. Batteries are changed and even when the car starts all dashboard lights are on. I guess due to the anti-theft programm?

Has anyone an idea, what to check next?
Your receiver for the fob is located under waterfall between the two seats. Remove waterfall and check connections.

OR - BCM, Body Control Module, located under console on truck.

Check connections first.

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1. Small white box is receiver.
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Check the battery mount too

Check the battery clip/mount inside the fob, I have had to repair the soldered
in clip on 2 different GM vehicles. It seems the soldering process isn't the best on the clip that holds in the 3vdc battery.
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Dicktator, JimBob,

thanks for the hints. Iīll check direct when Iīm back home from work.
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Thanks, Sweet34!

Indeed the remote didnīt beep after pressing Lock/Unlock. Iīll check that out first before removing the waterfall.

Canīt wait to get home ...
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Opening the fob went well, but no dirt on the contacts. Nonetheless I cleaned them. But itīs still not working. No beep during pairing with the car, same story with the second key fob. So it seems to be definetively the receiver. Using the key only shows "unknown driver" in the message box.

Iīve tried to open the tonneau latch, but the electric/hydraulic system is not working, probably a nice feature of the anti theft device. Next step was pulling the green wires behind the seats to unlock the latch. Also no success, the cable came out with the "cable skin" (donīt know the right wording) on both sides, but the latch is still closed. Is there another way to open it? Otherwise I cannot get to the receiver ...
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Cables are now back in position , but I cannot pull to open the latch . Is there something else securing them ?
Additional I have disconnected the battery , hoping to reset the receiver. But it did not work too ...
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NO, Don't pull cables, those are for the ROOF!

Button in glove box for bed cover or use roof tool for manual release.

PM me if you don't know how to do manual release.

How old is the Truck Battery???

When did you change ignition switch last??

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Probably itīs a misunderstanding, I didnīt want to open the bed cover (I know where to open it), but the lid from the roof storage. If I want to remove the waterfall as in your pictures this lid must be opened first. And in the manual itīs written: First pull the cables, then open the lid. But this is not working ...

Iīve changed the ignition switch some month ago, as I had battery draining problems. At that time the battery was checked too by a mechanic and found to be good. Itīs a yellow top from Optima purchased roughly two years ago.
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Probably itīs a misunderstanding, I didnīt want to open the bed cover (I know where to open it), but the lid from the roof storage. If I want to remove the waterfall as in your pictures this lid must be opened first. And in the manual itīs written: First pull the cables, then open the lid. But this is not working ...

Iīve changed the ignition switch some month ago, as I had battery draining problems. At that time the battery was checked too by a mechanic and found to be good. Itīs a yellow top from Optima purchased roughly two years ago.


OK, pull the cable with the green tag to release roof cover. The red is to latch the roof cover.

You are pulling against a hydraulic cylinder.

Not easy to pull, eat your wheates before trying it.

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See my post on opening roof compartment.Much easier

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Found it, thanks! Sounds like a very good solution, but unfortunately my roof is down. I will check if thereīs any possibility ...

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OK, pull the cable with the green tag to release roof cover. The red is to latch the roof cover.

You are pulling against a hydraulic cylinder.

Not easy to pull, eat your wheates before trying it.

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Iīve tried it quite hard, but wasnīt sure if I break something. Finally I try to avoid learning from my faults and prefer learning from faults made by someone else ...
So I have to order some spinach for dinner and hope that it works.
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