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Old 02-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tonneau not closing

In Maggie Valley in 2011 I had a Timmed Out message in the DIC no problems with roof operation since that time. Last week with almost 70 degree day I put the top down no message in the DIC top down no problem with that, after chime I came out of park and started moving. Chime notification in the DIC said Roof Ajar closed and opened the roof again with no problem. Put it in drive and got the chime notification in DIC again that said Roof Ajar. Tonneau was not completely closed gave it a soft push and there was resistance. The Tonneau was open approximately a quarter of an inch; closed the top chime sounded put it in drive with no Roof Ajar message. So now I need your imput as to the problem... Hate to take it to the GM Dealer here not but a couple of "R's" that I know of in the area so I am not sure if the mechanics here have the experience to fix this issue with out replacing the steering wheel and floor mats to find the problem. So tell me what you think..
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Is there anything in the bottom of the roof storage copmpartment that might hold the roof section up enoght to interfere with the tonneau? Just thinking out loud.
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Is there anything in the bottom of the roof storage copmpartment that might hold the roof section up enoght to interfere with the tonneau? Just thinking out loud.


Nothing that I could see... I am almost afraid to open it again for fear that I can't get it shut due to unseen blockage or something else; bad weather due in here again starting tomorrow and right now it is shut tight

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Nothing that I could see... I am almost afraid to open it again for fear that I can't get it shut due to unseen blockage or something else
The other thought I have is the flipper might not be openng fully due to something impairing it's hinges and there fore it is holding the tonneau up at the end of the cycle and not letting it latch.

Good luck. I would get some of those east coast Fanatics in your area involved with trouble shooting. We jknow most of the dealships do not know our trucks as well as we do.
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The other thought I have is the flipper might not be openng fully due to something impairing it's hinges and there fore it is holding the tonneau up at the end of the cycle and not letting it latch.

Good luck. I would get some of those east coast Fanatics in your area involved with trouble shooting. We jknow most of the dealships do not know our trucks as well as we do.
Thank for your input, hopefully another Fanatic will respond that has had that same issue.. Thanks again
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This will seem like an idiot post I'm sure, but you are aware the gate has to be open to close the tonneau properly.
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This will seem like an idiot post I'm sure, but you are aware the gate has to be open to close the tonneau properly.
Wrong tonneau Cash Meg is referring to the top tonneau not the bed tonneau

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This will seem like an idiot post I'm sure, but you are aware the gate has to be open to close the tonneau properly.
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Meg, Open cover, spray WD on the latch arm near top. It is not seating properly would be my guess. i.e. Latching Relay.

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1. See latch assembly near top, has two moving pins.
2. Spray the two pins on each assembly, both side of roof compartment.
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I do regret making that post! I rather hoped it would slide into oblivion but no, you had to come along!
I figured you can't operate the roof with the "tonneau" up, so ajar might be the same case.
Anyway, for guys like me we should call one the roof storage cover and the other the cargo tonneau cover!
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I'm on your side Cash!! I too have but one rear deck(tonneau) cover.. and one roof storage cover!!
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O.K. O.K. Blame it on the female who did not use the correct nomenclature; I stand corrected ~ sort of
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With only one or two R's in my area, I had the same trepidation when Ilsa's tonneau wouldn't operate. The body shop dudes at the local Chevy dealer fixed it quite well.

However, the same body dudes did an awful paint-matching job on a repair they did later, and even left a bubble in the paint (on the second try).


"Hate to take it to the GM Dealer here not but a couple of "R's" that I know of in the area so I am not sure if the mechanics here have the experience to fix this issue with out replacing the steering wheel and floor mats to find the problem. So tell me what you think..[/QUOTE]"
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I do regret making that post! I rather hoped it would slide into oblivion but no, you had to come along!
I figured you can't operate the roof with the "tonneau" up, so ajar might be the same case.
Anyway, for guys like me we should call one the roof storage cover and the other the cargo tonneau cover!
Actually I think the Roof, has the proper nomenclature. The Bed Lid is just a lid.

Now see what you got started.

MEG ! Give all the moving Parts a little lubrication.
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Actually I think the Roof, has the proper nomenclature. The Bed Lid is just a lid.

Now see what you got started.

MEG ! Give all the moving Parts a little lubrication.

Both you and Dicktator have recommended the same thing, lubrication; that will be done today as well as reinspecting the roof storage compartment ( is that the correct term) for any obstruction that I may have missed.

Thanks for your input
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Actually I think the Roof, has the proper nomenclature. The Bed Lid is just a lid.

Now see what you got started.

MEG ! Give all the moving Parts a little lubrication.
I guess GM had named each specifically and possibly the roof cover was officially referred to as the tonneau. IMO the one is a roof cover and the deck lid is a tonneau, but all I know is having two of them is confusing!

From Wikipedia:
Tonneau cover (US: /tʌˈnoʊ/, UK: /ˈtɒnoʊ/), describes a hard or soft cover used to protect unoccupied passenger seats in a convertible, roadster, or for a pickup truck bed. Hard tonneau covers open by a hinging or folding mechanism while soft covers open by rolling up.
The tonneau cover is used to conceal cargo. When the cover is pulled out, it keeps items out of the sun and provides extra security by keeping personal items out of sight,[1] as well as shielding the driver from view.


Sorry for the segway (not entirely hi-jacking) from Meg's problem.
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Wrong tonneau Cash Meg is referring to the top tonneau not the bed tonneau

Meg if all else fails PM me for my phone # I have an idea you could try,
Thank you Poppa I am going to WD-40 the hinge arms as Dicktator and MoodyBlue have suggested, if that doesn't fix the problem I will give you a PM.
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Both you and Dicktator have recommended the same thing, lubrication; that will be done today as well as reinspecting the roof storage compartment ( is that the correct term) for any obstruction that I may have missed.

Thanks for your input
Look for the Boot (Tonneau) to be uneven. (Askew) It should be level.

Check the Wiring Harness on both sides. The ones that flex with the Tonneau Cover. They rub where the steel clips are holding them on the sides of the Storage well. Look for worn insulation on the Wiring. Its a good idea to inspect all the parts for wear at least every two months in the Summer.

Food for thought. A convertible top cover; has always been called a Boot. A cover that is used to cover the entire interior of the Cab is called a Tonneau. Just a bit of past practice.
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Look for the Boot (Tonneau) to be uneven. (Askew) It should be level.

Check the Wiring Harness on both sides. The ones that flex with the Tonneau Cover. They rub where the steel clips are holding them on the sides of the Storage well. Look for worn insulation on the Wiring. Its a good idea to inspect all the parts for wear at least every two months in the Summer.

Food for thought. A convertible top cover; has always been called a Boot. A cover that is used to cover the entire interior of the Cab is called a Tonneau. Just a bit of past practice.

Wiring harness was checked this past summer during the active season; thanks for the reminder I will recheck that again too.
I have always called the cover over the bed of the pickup a tonneau and had heard the folks here call both pieces a tonneau which was confusing to me. also heard the "roof" tonneau called the "flipper" or the "roof storage compartment lid". For me a boot referred to the storage like the trunk in a car. So I agree with Cash we as "R" owners need to create and use our own correct for us nomenclature; if you agree with that raise your hand .
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Wiring harness was checked this past summer during the active season; thnks for the reminder I will recheck that again too.
I have always called the cover over the bed of the pickup a tonneau and had heard the folks here call both pieces a tonneau which was confusing to me. also heard the "roof" tonneau called the "flipper" or the "roof storage compartment lid". So I agree with Cash we as "R" ownerx need to create and use our own correct for us nomenclature; if you agree with that raise your hand .
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Wiring harness was checked this past summer during the active season; thanks for the reminder I will recheck that again too.
I have always called the cover over the bed of the pickup a tonneau and had heard the folks here call both pieces a tonneau which was confusing to me. also heard the "roof" tonneau called the "flipper" or the "roof storage compartment lid". For me a boot referred to the storage like the trunk in a car. So I agree with Cash we as "R" owners need to create and use our own correct for us nomenclature; if you agree with that raise your hand .
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