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Wipers will not turn off

WIPERS ARE STUCK IN DELAY MODE BUT THE SWITCH IS ON OFF. HAVE ANYONE HAD THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM OR CAN ASSIST ME PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANKS.
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Same thing happened in my 05 last month. It happened after a trip to the car wash. When I spoke to the Chevy master tech, I was told this is a sign the wiper motor is going out. But after a couple of days of no use, it stopped. Temporarily I would suggest disconnecting the wiper fuse/relay.

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It is a common problem with this particular wiper motor, water washes off the window and falls on top of the motor getting stuck in the electronics and shorts out the signal causing it to run continuously.

Pulling the fuse will fix it quickly, letting it dry out will let you plug it back in, taking it out and sealing around the electric areas with RTV will fix it. Also, some here have made deflector shields to make the water travel elsewhere and protect the electronics portion of the motor.

It might be something else but this is a known "issue"
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It is a common problem with this particular wiper motor, water washes off the window and falls on top of the motor getting stuck in the electronics and shorts out the signal causing it to run continuously.

Pulling the fuse will fix it quickly, letting it dry out will let you plug it back in, taking it out and sealing around the electric areas with RTV will fix it. Also, some here have made deflector shields to make the water travel elsewhere and protect the electronics portion of the motor.

It might be something else but this is a known "issue"
Thanks for replying to my problem. I did what you said and it worked. If I have to change the wiper motor can someone tell me where it is located.

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Thanks for replying to my problem. I did what you said and it worked. If I have to change the wiper motor can someone tell me where it is located.

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It's on the passenger side under the wide black plastic cover that contours the window. Might want to take off the cover and coat the motor electrical areas with RTV or make a little deflector shield so that when it rains again it won't get wet and short. Last year I made a little deflector out of scrap plastic to keep the water off it, so far so good

Another problem with some GM motors is a cracked solder joint in the electronics due to board movement, a little solder will fix it.
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It's on the passenger side under the wide black plastic cover that contours the window. Might want to take off the cover and coat the motor electrical areas with RTV or make a little deflector shield so that when it rains again it won't get wet and short. Last year I made a little deflector out of scrap plastic to keep the water off it, so far so good

Another problem with some GM motors is a cracked solder joint in the electronics due to board movement, a little solder will fix it.
THANKS YOU SO MUCH SO NOW IT TIME FOR ME SEE WHAT I COME UP WITH N FIX IT
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This just happened to me for the first time, when I washed the R for the 5th day in a row, coming from Daytona!
So, warranty issue? IS it under the wind screen under the hood at the windshield? Kinda like where the vents on the top of that piece are?

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Document ID# 1349984
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1GCES14PX4B107242


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Water Management Description and Operation
Plenum Water Flow Direction and Cleaning
A large percentage of water will flow off the windshield area into the plenum chamber drain system and then down the outside on the plenum to the underside of the vehicle. To ensure that the plenum chamber water management system performs properly, the air inlet grille panel, plenum chamber, and drains must not be blocked with debris.

In the graphic below the gray arrows show the water flow direction in the plenum chamber and drains system.





Plenum Chamber and Drain Valve-Cleaning
The plenum chamber is located in front of the windshield and below the air inlet grille panel.

Remove the air inlet grille panel.
Clean the plenum chamber, drains and the air inlet grille panel of debris blockage.
Flush the plenum chamber, drains and the air inlet grille panel with clean water.
Install the air inlet grille panel.

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Document ID# 1349984
2004 Chevrolet SSR
1GCES14PX4B107242
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Thanks, My R NEVER really sits outside. I think the car wash I used, which is the touchless kind, blasted water into places it didn't belong. So I'll let it dry, and see what happens.

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post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 08:34 PM
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I have had this problem twice now, without repairing anything.
Unplug the wiper motor and turn the key on...... wait a few seconds and turn the key off. Plug the motor back in and start it up.

Mine has been in the dealer shop twice, this reset the circuit and they tell me if it does it again we need to replace the wiper motor which is nearly $1000 with labor at their rates (no bs!!)
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My 03 with 43k started this saturday in maggie valley. Im stored inside all times so should not have any leaves collected. Could be wet from car wash hose. My windshield washer pump wants to run also non stop. Will try disconnect, dry and reset. If that fails we will look at the multi switch as was suggested in maggie by Phil 06bluessr and Dick

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Wiper Motor and Harness Connector) - (Jan 18, 2005)
Subject: Windshield Wipers Always On (Replace Wiper Motor and Harness Connector)
Models: 2003-2004 Chevrolet SSR
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Condition
Some customers may comment that the windshield wipers stay on even when the wiper switch is off.

Cause
This condition may be due to water entering the wiper motor connector body through the weatherpack seal, resulting in corrosion of the terminals within that connector.

Correction
Inspect the windshield wiper motor connector terminals for residue or corrosion. If the terminals show signs of corrosion, replace the wiper motor and connector using the procedure listed below. This new connector w/leads has a more robust seal to prevent water intrusion.

•Remove the wiper motor. Refer to the Wiper Motor Replacement procedure in the Wipers/Washer System sub-section of the Service Manual (SI Document ID #899943).
•Cut off the connector.
•Install the new service connector pigtail using the Duraseal sealed splices and instructions provided with the pigtail.
Important: Use the J 38125-8 Crimp Tool provided in the J 38125 Terminal Repair Kit when crimping any Duraseal splice along with the Ultra Torch and J 38125-5 or J 38125-5A when making this repair. Failure to do so could compromise the integrity of this repair.

•Install the new wiper motor. Refer to the Wiper Motor Replacement procedure in the Wipers/Washer System sub-section of the Service Manual (SI Document ID #899943).
Parts Information
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Description
Qty

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Motor, Windshield Wiper Motor
1

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Connector, WSW Motor (w/leads)
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what happens is there is a relay in the motor, that gets stuck (common) for dirty relays in electronics. When this happens, it will stay on, and usually will only reset to off when there is zero power going to the motor.
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I have had the same problem with wipers stuck in on Position. Removed Wiper arms, Took apart the Plastic Cover & removed Motor. Found that water was pooling in Motor area. Use Hose to clean out drain & debris in area. Let dry & coated Contacts & motor with silicone. Put back together & working now. One problem. If I touch any Buttons on Steering wheel or on Steering column. All hell breaks loose. Speedometer gets stuck & engine runs bad.
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change the circuit board in the wiper motor assembly, cheap, perhaps 40 bucks + 'er -

usually solves the problem with GM wiper motor niggles. New boards can fail in as little as a few months, I have seen it. They are junk, some times a diagnosis can be had by tapping the plastic cover on the gear box assembly and the wipers may start, stop or park themselves as they should. This means bad solder connection most likely or wiggle or plug and unplug the plug-in connection into the gear box with the wiper switch on and something may happen and indicate a corroded connection
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