This was in todays Detroit Free Press!
Can you belive it!
grimmye
PLANNING A PROTEST: Dream Cruise in crosshairs
Clean air crusader targets Woodward event
April 14, 2007
BY TINA LAM
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
Joellen Gilchrist knows her mission is heresy. She's expecting rude shouts and unkind gestures, but that won't deter her. She wants to stop the Dream Cruise.
Thousands of pre-Clean Air Act vehicles spewing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere contribute to global warming, she said this week. "It was fun for a few years, but it's time for it to be over," she said.
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Gilchrist is hosting one of more than 1,300 Step It Up events across the nation today to push for action on climate change. More than 40 events are scheduled across Michigan, from rallies to lightbulb exchanges. The goal is to get Congress to reduce carbon emissions by 80% by 2050.
A report issued Thursday by the Environment Michigan Research & Policy Center said the state's global-warming pollution increased 4% from 1990 to 2004, despite declining industrial emissions. While industrial emissions of carbon dioxide dropped, emissions from cars and trucks increased statewide.
Gilchrist will meet with at least a dozen people in Beverly Park, on Beverly Road at Norchester in Beverly Hills, from noon to 3 p.m. today to plant trees and plan a protest for this year's Dream Cruise. A 63-year-old retired teacher, Gilchrist hopes to inject humor into the protest. "It works better than strident confrontation," she said.
Environmental groups have not been quick to join in. "Personally, I have nothing against the Dream Cruise," said Melissa Damaschke, conservation organizer for the Sierra Club chapter in Royal Oak. "It's a day to honor classic cars and pay tribute to our heritage here." The Sierra Club organizes a Green Cruise the previous week featuring walkers, bikers and skateboarders.
Jean Chamberlain, who helped start the Dream Cruise 13 years ago, agreed that Dream Cruise vehicles emit fumes and carbon dioxide into the air, but said that 1.5 million people watch the cruise and enjoy it. "Those who don't like it head to their cottages where the air is cleaner," she said.
Hmm...isn't it ironic that the very newspaper this article appeared in was mainly the result of a tree? I say, let them plant more trees....we need more newspapers!
There must be something in the water here in MIchigan 'cause it seems like we have more than our fair share of the "Save the world by stopping everything!" kooks.
Here in west Michigan there has been a comment about maybe closing a beach to prevent further pollution due to cigarette butts! humm- no butts(of either kind) at all! I just shake my head
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Protest
I say we send her packing
The WDC is too important to our ailing economy.........she needs to go after the big businesses and local government that dump big money into the cruise and urge them to use some money for environmental purposes!
While cleaning up the environment is a good thing......protesting the WDC is NOT!!!!
It seems that no matter what you enjoy or choose to do in your spare time for fun, there is always someone telling you why you shouldn't.
I love American muscle cars
I love hunting
I love fishing
I love beer
I love the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, and MLB
and I am constantly portrayed as a bad guy by holier than thou, hypocrates.
While I agree that greenhouse gasses need to be addressed, I wonder what they propose to do about the CO2 that is constantly emitted as we respire??? I propose that these people SHUT UP and quit emmitting greenhouse gasses themselves.
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The WDC is too important to our ailing economy.........
Economic Impact
A recent Oakland County study analyzed the economic impact of the Woodward Dream Cruise on businesses ranging from retailers to restaurateurs, and from lodging to gas stations.
At an average of $75 each spent by 1.7 million attendees, the sum was assessed at $112.5 million for the one-day event. For many businesses along Woodward, the event generates their highest single-day revenue of the year.
Cars and trucks are the easy targest because the emissions are plainly visible (sometimes quite literally).
Yes, the classic cars do emit more CO2 than new cars. I don't believe that 1 day (well, a few days) of people driving these older cars is contributing significantly to the CO and CO2 problem. Fireplaces produce more emissions (and some of them pretty noxious) than most cars. How many people do you know were using their fireplaces frequently during this past winter?
I think that rampant development and tearing down of our last remaining wooded areas (no mattery how small) is the real culprit. We're losing the most significant thing that absorbs the carbon and returns it into the ecosystem (aside from our oceans).
Some people just can't stand to see someone having fun. While I agree emissions are something we need to be aware of,I hardly believe this 3 day event will be that critical to our longevity. There are more important ways of adressing this issue.
Perhaps Ms. Gilchrist can pay all those hard working people at the WDC the money they would be getting from the dream cruise. What a crock! I can see it now. Hey, let's leave the cars and trucks at home and get our skateboards and bikes ready for the Greencruise....blah.....I did not plan on going back to the WDC this year, but this makes me mad enough to get in my SSR and do a few burnouts in her hotel driveway!
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There must be something in the water here in MIchigan 'cause it seems like we have more than our fair share of the "Save the world by stopping everything!" kooks.
Here in west Michigan there has been a comment about maybe closing a beach to prevent further pollution due to cigarette butts! humm- no butts(of either kind) at all! I just shake my head
California is no better San Fransisco just banned the use of plastic (made from recycled milk and soda bottles) bags for stores, They want them to go back to paper (more trees) or now try a new bag made from i belive its corn stalks (that'll be afordable)
Cars and trucks are the easy targest because the emissions are plainly visible (sometimes quite literally).
Yes, the classic cars do emit more CO2 than new cars. I don't believe that 1 day (well, a few days) of people driving these older cars is contributing significantly to the CO and CO2 problem. Fireplaces produce more emissions (and some of them pretty noxious) than most cars. How many people do you know were using their fireplaces frequently during this past winter?
I think that rampant development and tearing down of our last remaining wooded areas (no mattery how small) is the real culprit. We're losing the most significant thing that absorbs the carbon and returns it into the ecosystem (aside from our oceans).
This is a common misconception, what is a fact is that there are more trees in the United States now then there have ever been. While urban sprawl may reduce undisturbed areas...modern forestry practices have created more acreage of trees than ever found pre-settlement. The general public makes an assumption that forest lands are a finite resource, when in fact it is one of our greatest renewable resources we have.
This is a common misconception, what is a fact is that there are more trees in the United States now then there have ever been. While urban sprawl may reduce undisturbed areas...modern forestry practices have created more acreage of trees than ever found pre-settlement. The general public makes an assumption that forest lands are a finite resource, when in fact it is one of our greatest renewable resources we have.
could you point me toward this info, I'd like to spread it around
I am out of town for the weekend. When I get home, it was in one of my forestry texts. If you think about all the forest fire suppression...i.e. Smokey the Bear, you can understand why there are more forests now than ever. (it is an entirely different argument deciding if our forests are healthier though)
Anyone needing factual information to argue intellegently against the "humans are responsible for this current climatic event" hoax, including good ammo to argue against the Al Gore's" Inconvenient Truth Movie, should read Michael Crichtons book "State of Fear". It's a novel but filled with factual foot notes on the subject, all of which can be researched if one desires. (I have). Michael Crichton is an intellegent person, he researches his information for his stories to the hilt, and has way too much character , and love of this planet to write something just to sell books. He is not alone in his views. The theory that global warming is caused by humans, is still just that, a theory. Mixing science and politics is dangerous enough, add Hollywood and famous Hollywood know nothing do gooders and you have a real mess.
JMHO not.
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Global warming My A**
It is just the newest band wagon for these tree hugging Mother FU***** . I am so fed up with anti this anti that. I work for a Company that builds and install's pollution control equipment and the truth be told at least up here in good old Liberal Canada that absolutely nothing the Goverment does or Companies do will ever be good enough for these groups, at least not until we are all living the way they see it, on Welfare. They are not the majority just the loudest voice and great at lobbying. These little F****** smart cars every time I see one I get this almost uncontrollable urge to run over it.
There is know doubt we need to keep the big company's on their toes and using the latest technology to ensure that pollution is controlled as much as possible yet at the same time continue to stay competetive with the rest of the world, we all know this and doubt any of us would disagree but not being able to drive your old car or put a fire in your fire place or sit around a camp fire now and then, personally I would rather be dead than live in a Country under those conditions, I suggest some of these protesting A** HOLES better wake up and realise that there are some of us still alive not willing to put up with their BULL S*** . I for one like the idea of doing burnouts on her lawn. Anyway my
By the way can anyone tell me why there are remanents of a tropical rainforest in Nova Scotia Canada, could it be that Cave men 100,000 thousand years ago where driving SSR"s - Must of been pretty warm don't you think- "tree huggers"
It wont matter what we do in the western nations as long if countries like India and China continue thier industrialization. You think environmental controls are in place in those countries?
In truth, the search for alternative fuels is simply a fail safe for when petroleum becomes hard to find and very very expensive.
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Global Warming? Snow in the middle of April. The North East US is getting slammed with all forms of weather today.
On our local TV station weather they list the highand low for the day. A lot of the highs go back to the 20's, 30's, and 40's still stand as the hottest day on record and some of the coldest days in the summer where posted in the 50's.
And the call todays weather problems due to global warming.
This happened in NJ !!
2 Pickups, 1 red & 1 white, are driving along at the speed limit+,red in left lane, white in middle lane. Red observes "WIG_WAGS" (Police noise makers)approaching behind him in left lane so red moves over towartds the shoulder to make room. Upon hitting the shoulder, red's tires hit some gravel and he begins to lose control (evidently no slow down involved) and when he LOOKS UP (where else was he looking) he sees a mile marker sign and swerves back onto the flow of traffic which causes the white pickup to swerve left to avoid red pickup and WHAMO out goes the Gov's SUV driven by a State Trooper. Didn't any of these vehicles have BRAKES, or drivers that can see past their noses. Red pickup driver leaves scene because he says "He didn't know there was an accident" DIDN'T ANY OF THESE VEHICLES HAVE REAR VIEW MIRRORS" They obviously had driver's that don't know how to drive and should NOT BE ON THE ROAD!!!!
Know what according to NJ State Troppers there are no charges against any of the drivers including the GOV who was not wearing a seat belt.
I sure don't want to drive my SSR in Jersey!!!!
grimmye
It wont matter what we do in the western nations as long if countries like India and China continue thier industrialization. You think environmental controls are in place in those countries?
In truth, the search for alternative fuels is simply a fail safe for when petroleum becomes hard to find and very very expensive.
BINGO!
And I get so dang tired of being labeled as some "tree hugging enviro wacko" simply because I am young enough that a true shortage of petroleum is a serious threat in my lifetime!!!
I thought that ideas like consumer choice and use of creative invention were fundamental parts of the "American Way," but I guess it is not - you should hear the crap I get if I state that I want an alternative fuel automobile!!
As for the air, study after study has shown that poor air quality in North Georgia is due in considerable part to our use of coal-fired power plants. By some testing, these plants are responsible for up to 70 percent of our air pollution.
If Ms. Whats-her-name really wants to help our environment then we would welcome her help to lobby our state legislature about the issue. Those fine folks under the Gold Dome don't seem too inclined to listen to the concerned citizens, who mostly just want the power company to avail itself of existing technology to reduce emissions.
__________________ Vicki B.
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." M.L.K., Jr.
Know what according to NJ State Troppers there are no charges against any of the drivers including the GOV who was not wearing a seat belt.
I sure don't want to drive my SSR in Jersey!!!!
grimmye
No seat belt? A body in motion tends to stay in motion. When the Gov feels better he should hire an attorney and SUE HIMSELF for using poor judgement.
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"Tree Hugging Enviro wacko"
I believe our worry about running out of petoleum in our lifetime or our kids lifetime is fiction, my research and information tell me that there has never been more oil & gas reserves on this planet and we are discovering more every day. The only way they can keep the prices so high is to make artificial shortages ie. set quota's at just a little less than we actually need, thus creating shortages and limited supply. Another good example of this is "Diamonds" basically if the supply was not controlled they would not be worth much more than marbles. Oil is about the same the OPEC countries want to keep the price high so they can keep selling $70 barrel oil for the next 400 years make sense why sell it for $20 a barrel which would be about what it is worth if there were no quota's. It is a game mostly smoke and mirrors don't make it so high that some alternative fuel is going to put them out of business but don't make it cheap so they have to ship 3 times as much to make the same money. As far as Coal fired generating plants go ( this is my occupation, that is installing pollution controls on them) we have the technology to make them burn as clean as any other fuel fired plant, precipitators,scrubber's. catalyst SCR"s and water & CO diffusion technology's but as mentioned by SSR71 -your Country and my Country have to also stay competative with China & India and other such countries . The only way the pollution will be controlled now that we are in a "Global Economy" is with some sort of "Global pollution treaty" until this happens by protesting and lobbying all that will occur is more and more industry will leave to less "Green Country's" taking those jobs with them, which I believe all these retired school teacher "Tree hugging Enviro Wacko's" could care a less, they have thier great pensions. Sorry if I offended any retired school teachers who are not "Tree Hugging Enviro Wacho's" but up here alot of them are. Anyway I can see where this is all going, just wait and see driving a vehicle like ours will be the fur coat of the 1980's we will be taunted and become politically incorrect. I have heard of a few cases where hummers where spray painted just as fur coats were, well Lord help the Tree Hugger that Spray paints mine. I agree with you that air pollution is a concern but not just in our Country's. Have you been to China lately, they are building coal fired plants like you have in Georgia at a rate of 100 per year with no pollution equipment what so ever the cheap energy they are producing is your and my biggest threat to becoming unemployed that we will face in our lifetime, think about it energy is used in every industry, process and manufactor if we lobby and protest ourselves out of work who wins then, not our kids that is for sure. Yes I would want the best possible enviroment for them to grow up in but we also must remain realistic in that there is no Dome over our countries and we already have the cleanest power plants in the world, as a whole so before we go to far ahead of the pack we must make sure the rest of the world keeps pace and if China and India and these so called third world countries are unwilling to clean up there act just how much can our Countries do and still stay competative. I worked 25 years ago in Ontario helping to build a Nuclear power plant, we were being protested every day going to work, now they want Nuclear power plants because coal is now the target, go figure I think they just protest because they have nothing better to do.
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