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Old 01-28-2012, 01:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Those Old Westerns

I really do love this stuff. As some know, I am a huge fan of TCM, and watch old movies regularly, particularly westerns. I love to read the character star list and am fascinated when I see a movie from the 30's or early 40's and see the likes of a future star like Charles Bronson doing a bit part. I have a hard time accepting he is that old! It is fashionable to be a John Wayne fan (I am also) but I loved Alan Ladd, Glen Ford, Randolph Scott, Gary Cooper, and many more and even though he wasn't the greatest actor, I was always drawn to Audie Murphy movies.
I have both versions of 3:10 to Yuma (Glen Ford original and Russell Crowe recent) and they are twins, with the new version copying the original dialogue verbatim and scene by scene, but as much as I like Russell Crowe and Ben Foster as the bad guy in the recent version, I still like Glenn Ford vs Crowe. Just like I prefer Alan Ladd and Van Heflin versus the stump in Shane rather than Eastwood and Moriarty vs the rock in Pale Rider. Get your own material you bums!!
Mind you, I do appreciate the film makers that respect the origanals and the desire to update them. I just don't think, in most cases, they can do a better job of it.
Who doesn't love Steve McQueen or Clint Eastwood, the great movies and TV shows they have done. Unfortunately the westerns really have died out. Kevin Costner did a wonderful movie "Open Range" with Robert Duvall. The movie is a "must watch" but if you have the opportunity, watch "The making of" narrated by Costner and see the stunning Alberta landscape. Honestly, listening to Costner reviewing the making of the film and re-viewing thescenery is as captivating as the film itself. Annette Benning had the courage to do this movie without makeup and she is absolutely stunning! I love women that do not feel the need to require makeup.
The Unforgiven and The Quick and the Dead are other recent westerns I have enjoyed. There are 2 versions of The Quick and the Dead, completely different, but both excellent movies. One has Sam Elliot and the gorgeous Kate Capshaw with a great performance from Tom Conti and #2 with Sharon Stone, Hackman & DiCaprio in a shootist film, both thoroughly enjoyable. When The Unforgiven came on the scene westerns had become unfashionable to the movie viewing audience and The Unforgiven was a surprise movie as well as a surprise Oscar winner.
I am a pushover for anything Wyatt Earp, so there are 4 or 5 of them I like a lot.
"Shane" will forever be my all time favourite western. Eastwood tried to duplicate it with Pale Rider, good also, but I always look at it as a great compliment to the original Shane.
Another favourite Westen is "Once Upon in the West". The (Grand Teutons, Great Teutons?) - same beautiful background as in Shane anyway - Gorgeous anyway -Henry Fonda, Charles Bronson, Jason Robards & Jack Elam (in the first 10 minutes, one of the best one on one scenes ever when he tries to flick a fly from his face without moving anything but facial muscles - a hoot).
Really tough to pick a favourite John Wayne movie but I think for me it would be The Shootist, which may have been his last movie, co-starring Lauren Bacall.
Back on Clint, anything spaghetti by Sergio Leoni is very cool! Probably the most recognizble soundtracks ever!
Anyway, fun to be reminded of these great actors and the great character actors that accompanied them and made everything possible.
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Those Old Westerns

I really do love this stuff. As some know, I am a huge fan of TCM, and watch old movies regularly, particularly westerns. I love to read the character star list and am fascinated when I see a movie from the 30's or early 40's and see the likes of a future star like Charles Bronson doing a bit part. I have a hard time accepting he is that old! It is fashionable to be a John Wayne fan (I am also) but I loved Alan Ladd, Glen Ford, Randolph Scott, Gary Cooper, and many more and even though he wasn't the greatest actor, I was always drawn to Audie Murphy movies.
I have both versions of 3:10 to Yuma (Glen Ford original and Russell Crowe recent) and they are twins, with the new version copying the original dialogue verbatim and scene by scene, but as much as I like Russell Crowe and Ben Foster as the bad guy in the recent version, I still like Glenn Ford vs Crowe. Just like I prefer Alan Ladd and Van Heflin versus the stump in Shane rather than Eastwood and Moriarty vs the rock in Pale Rider. Get your own material you bums!!
Mind you, I do appreciate the film makers that respect the origanals and the desire to update them. I just don't think, in most cases, they can do a better job of it.
Who doesn't love Steve McQueen or Clint Eastwood, the great movies and TV shows they have done. Unfortunately the westerns really have died out. Kevin Costner did a wonderful movie "Open Range" with Robert Duvall. The movie is a "must watch" but if you have the opportunity, watch "The making of" narrated by Costner and see the stunning Alberta landscape. Honestly, listening to Costner reviewing the making of the film and re-viewing thescenery is as captivating as the film itself. Annette Benning had the courage to do this movie without makeup and she is absolutely stunning! I love women that do not feel the need to require makeup.
The Unforgiven and The Quick and the Dead are other recent westerns I have enjoyed. There are 2 versions of The Quick and the Dead, completely different, but both excellent movies. One has Sam Elliot and the gorgeous Kate Capshaw with a great performance from Tom Conti and #2 with Sharon Stone, Hackman & DiCaprio in a shootist film, both thoroughly enjoyable. When The Unforgiven came on the scene westerns had become unfashionable to the movie viewing audience and The Unforgiven was a surprise movie as well as a surprise Oscar winner.
I am a pushover for anything Wyatt Earp, so there are 4 or 5 of them I like a lot.
"Shane" will forever be my all time favourite western. Eastwood tried to duplicate it with Pale Rider, good also, but I always look at it as a great compliment to the original Shane.
Another favourite Westen is "Once Upon in the West". The (Grand Teutons, Great Teutons?) - same beautiful background as in Shane anyway - Gorgeous anyway -Henry Fonda, Charles Bronson, Jason Robards & Jack Elam (in the first 10 minutes, one of the best one on one scenes ever when he tries to flick a fly from his face without moving anything but facial muscles - a hoot).
Really tough to pick a favourite John Wayne movie but I think for me it would be The Shootist, which may have been his last movie, co-starring Lauren Bacall.
Back on Clint, anything spaghetti by Sergio Leoni is very cool! Probably the most recognizble soundtracks ever!
Anyway, fun to be reminded of these great actors and the great character actors that accompanied them and made everything possible.
old movies the westerns are the best
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Absolutely! As Chris he came to Shane, not with anything in particular, other than to let him know he was not the enemy and no longer with Starrett.

Ben Johnson was in so many movies, and I agree, one of my favourites!
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I haven't had the opportunity to drive through the locations where all these movies were filmed, but that is part of the love for them, the locations were so untouched it seemed.
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