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Old 05-26-2007, 08:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just thought some folks might like to read this. grimmye

By Jim Sponseller
>
>
> Most of the time, this column takes on a light-hearted attitude. Today,
> it's a heavy-hearted one.
>
> It’s heavy-hearted because I’m both disappointed
> and worried about the way that so many car buyers are ignoring the
> products of America’s automobile manufacturers. Yes, I know all the
> arguments pro and con. The reasoning for buying from foreign manufacturers
> abound in letters to the editors and columns by auto writers in our
> newspapers and magazines.
>
> Up front, I should admit that I worked for two U.S. auto manufacturers in
> addition to several decades in the newspaper trade. The first was
> Kaiser-Frazier, back in 1953. I had worked there only six months when they
> locked the doors of the huge plant in Ypsilanti because of the lack of
> sales. I later had a stint with General Motors that lasted longer. I
> personally believe that most of the models produced by American car makers
> are just as good as those offered by foreign companies. Many are even
> better.
> But besides the fact that I have been completely satisfied with the cars
> produced by American-based companies, one of my main reasons for never
> considering the purchase of a foreign vehicle is quite different than most
> Americans would think about. Here it is:
>
> Not until I went to work for the Fisher Body Division of GM did I realize
> what an impact our auto companies had in the defense of our country. I had
> heard of Detroit being called the “Arsenal of Democracy” but really didn’t
> appreciate the meaning of it until I thumbed through the historical files
> of Fisher Body. One of my many jobs was to keep them up to date. Fisher
> Body was the division that produced the bodies for nearly every GM model
> since they started in 1908 until the division was merged into other units
> in 1984.
>
> While the “Arsenal of Democracy” tag wasn’t applied until World War II,
> Fisher Body’s involvement started during the first World War. Soon after
> the U.S. entered the war in 1917, the Army granted a contract to Fisher
> Body for the largest order every written in this country for airplanes.
> Although Fisher Body had never before made a single airplane, it produced
> the first one 48 days after taking over a government-owned building near
> downtown Detroit (later used to assemble Cadillac car bodies.) It
> eventually reached 40 a day. By the time the war for the U.S. ended, the
> plant had assembled 2,005 planes.
>
> Within months after Pearl Harbor, Detroit’s auto industry shut down its
> assembly lines and converted to the tools of war. Ford Motor was soon
> turning out such items as aircraft and tank engines and gun mounts. It was
> most famous for its vast Willow Run plant where 8,685 B-24 bombers were
> produced. Chrysler converted its assembly lines to tanks, Army trucks,
> anti-aircraft guns and assemblies for B-25 medium bombers. Detroit's
> Hudson plant made sub-assemblies for the B-29 bomber and marine engines.
> Packard produced engines for fighter planes and PT boats. The hundreds of
> automotive supplier plants all became involved.
>
> I don’t have a record of the items produced by the score of other General
> Motors divisions but I discovered that its Fisher Body Division alone
> contributed a remarkable assortment of material to the war effort. Twelve
> Fisher plants were assigned for use by other GM divisions and other
> companies such as Boeing and Firestone. The remaining 13 plants, mostly in
> Michigan, tallied up production numbers such as these:
>
> Aircraft assemblies, such as wings and tail sections, were produced for
> 5,214 Mitchell B-25 bombers.
>
> In Grand Blanc, 17,213 tanks rolled off the assembly line, most of them
> the famous General Sherman.
>
> Over in the Grand Rapids plant, the assembly line produced 2,359
> anti-aircraft guns and later 550 huge 5-inch guns for the Navy's ships.
> They also shipped out over a half million high-explosive 155mm shell
> casings, plus aircraft and tank components.
>
> In plants of the Ternstedt Division of Fisher Body, a total of 293,100
> intricate gyro aircraft instruments were manufactured. The division also
> produced 1.2 million parts used in fighter plane cannons.
>
> Five Fisher east coast plants were merged into the GM Eastern Aircraft
> Division and was the source of three-quarters of the nearly 18,000 Wildcat
> and Avenger planes produced for the Navy carriers.
>
> In Cleveland, a 400 acre plant was built for assembly of wings, tail
> sections, ailerons, flaps, tail gun turrets and other parts for the huge
> B-29 bombers as well as parts for tanks and Naval guns.
>
> Also pouring out of these facilities, along with plants in Flint, Lansing,
> Detroit and Pontiac, were such items as 200,000 rocket fin s, 86,000
> droppable fuel tanks, 1,500 cowlings for Navy fighters and 9,352 huge
> crankcases for diesel engines to power Navy ships and submarines.
>
> Today, dozens of auto plants are closing.
> So are hundreds of automotive supplier plants. One can only wonder how we
> could ever gear up to fill wartime production should the need ever arise.
>
> Just what would we do, call up Japan, Germany, China, Korea or our beloved
> friends in France?
>
> All of this wartime production stuff may sound boring and trivial to most
> Americans now, but back in the 1940's it was a life and death matter for
> our troops and for the defense of our country. Back then, when I was among
> the millions of GI's serving overseas, I had no idea of how vital the
> efforts were of our auto plants and the men and women working there in
> achieving final victory. Today I do.
>
> You can call me a sentimental old geezer still living in the past, but
> I'll just keep on buying and loving the cars that best support our
> country's economy today and played a huge role in keeping it free over 60
> years ago.
>
> Oh yes, during those war years, 14,761 Fisher body employees left their
> jobs and families to serve in the armed forces. And 288 gave their lives
> to keep us free today.
>
> Buy American!
>
> Thanks for listening,
> Jim Sponseller
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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from a former detroiter. amen
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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And the Janesville palnt was coverted to make Bomb casings and assemble shells for the bombers and others.


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GM's Guide Lamp division manufactured the famous "liberty" pistol. Those were dropped behind enemy lines by the thousands to supply resistance fighters. They also manufactured the "grease gun" .45 cal machine gun.



The comment about the wildcats - GM ended up producing more planes than Grumman of their own designs.
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preaching to the choir

I am certainly not a sentimental old geezer...but this issue bothers me, and bothers me greatly. This very issue was a topic of discussion in my college business classes way back when, and it seems things are just getting worse. I fear that one day, Americans are going to regret these decisions.
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Thanks for your sevice to all that served

Thanks for the history and for your service. Spent 1971 1972 at the beautiful beaches of GETMO. Semper Fi
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Thanks for everyone who served or is serving to keep our country FREE. God bless them all.
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GM's Plants Produced war time engines

Our GM POWERTRAIN TONAWANDA ENGINE Plant (largest engine plant in the world) produced WWII Aircraft Engines back in the 40's.

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Wouldn't it be wonderfull if the "peoples" living in the Middle East could spend their time making/building/growing 'things' that could be sold on the world markets instead of blowing each other up with suicide bombings!, and trying to tell everybody else 'how to live'!
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Wouldn't it be wonderfull if the "peoples" living in the Middle East could spend their time making/building/growing 'things' that could be sold on the world markets instead of blowing each other up with suicide bombings!, and trying to tell everybody else 'how to live'!
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Timely!!

I was only a future mistake when WWII rolled around, but served in the sunny suburbs north of Saigon. I remember hearing the "What's good for General Motors is good for America" quote, and not really understanding it until much later. As more and more components of our cars are "outsourced" to manufacturers outside our borders, we continue to lose not only economically, but in our ability to respond quickly to manufacture parts, munitions, etc., should the need arise - and I'm afraid it will.

If you doubt the impact, consider gas prices. There is a sufficient supply of crude, and the price, though high, is not at a record level. What is contributing to the high prices is that we lack the refining capability to maintain adequate delivery, thus we maintain an artificial "need" and "seasonal formula effects". If the Middle East nations ever turn off the tap, we'll have a problem trying to react quickly enough to compensate. Don't want a refinery in my back yard, but I'd rather have that than learn to speak Farsi -

Thank you vets, and thank you American workers!!

Buy American - I do!

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