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Old 04-19-2007, 07:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"Our Gang"

The Little Rascals........I loved watching the reruns
In my doll collection I have one commemorating 4 of them....Alfalfa, Buckweat, Darla, and Spanky.

Remember Our Gang?

In case you forgot who is who.

What ever happened to those people?
Well, here it is ..................


Alfalfa --
Carl Switzer was shot to death at age 31

Chubby --
300-pound Norman Chaney died at age 22 following an operation.

Buckwheat --
William Thomas died at age 49 of a heart attack.

Darla Hood --
The Our Gang leading lady contracted hepatitis and died at age 47.
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"Our Gang" Continued

The Little Rascals...............

Brisbane--
Kendall McCormas, known as Breezy Brisbane, committed suicide at age 64.

Mickey Daniels --
He died of liver disease at 55

Stymie --
Mathew Bear led a life of crime and drugs. He died of a stroke at age 56.

Scotty Beckett--
He died at age 38 following a brutal beating

Wheezer --
Robert Hutchins was killed in an airplane accident at age 19.
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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"Our Gang" Continued

The Little Rascals.................

Pete the Pup --
He was poisoned by an unknown assailant

Butch --
Currently lives in California.

And Spanky...
Robert Blake was accused of murdering his wife

I did not know that was Robert Blake!


Did any of you know?......now you do
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When I lived in So Cal - Butch was my dentist. Can't for the life of me remember his name.
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Sorry Debbie Mickey Gubitosi or something like that was Robert Blake.
Spanky was spanky mcfarland...Where the hell did I remember that from... Oops showing my age.!

http://en.allexperts.com/e/r/ro/robe...ke_(actor).htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_...y%22_McFarland

Froggy was Billy Froggie Laughlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_%...gy%22_Laughlin

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Sorry Debbie Mickey Gubitosi or something like that was Robert Blake.
Spanky was spanky mcfarland...Where the hell did I remember that from... Oops showing my age.!

http://en.allexperts.com/e/r/ro/robe...ke_(actor).htm
Doogie48084 is correct! The role of "Spanky" was played by George McFarland. Not Robert Blake.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Doogie48084 is correct! The role of "Spanky" was played by George McFarland. Not Robert Blake.
Should have investigated the e-mail sent before posting......thanks for clearing that up!
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Butch was never a dentist. His name was Tommy Bond. He used to sit in his wheelchair and sell autographed pictures at flea markets in Southern California. I used to see him frequently and talk with him when I lived in San Diego. He died around a year ago. He was a great guy.

**I just looked up the biography on "Butch". Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Bond

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The Little Rascals...............

Brisbane--
Kendall McCormas, known as Breezy Brisbane, committed suicide at age 64.

Mickey Daniels --
He died of liver disease at 55

Stymie --
Mathew Bear led a life of crime and drugs. He died of a stroke at age 56.

Scotty Beckett--
He died at age 38 following a brutal beating

Wheezer --
Robert Hutchins was killed in an airplane accident at age 19.
Micky Daniels, after his childhood stardom wound up working construction.
He worked for many years with my father as he traveled the world building military bases and other large projects. Somewhere I have one of Mickey's id badges from when we knew him in North Afica.
He did not get any better looking with age.
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The Little Rascals.................

Pete the Pup --
He was poisoned by an unknown assailant

Butch --
Currently lives in California.

And Spanky...
Robert Blake was accused of murdering his wife

I did not know that was Robert Blake!


Did any of you know?......now you do
Spanky was played by George Mcfarland not Robert Blake.
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Robert Blake played Mickey...too
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Robert Blake -
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(originally Mickey Gubitosi) as Mickey (1939 to 1944)
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Wasn't he one of the "Our Gang" characters?
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Alfalfa....killed over a pool/billiard wager (I think)
remember his song...I'm forever blowing bubbles
I sure do.

What about..."I'm the barber of Seville"
One of the most regularly repeated lines between my brothers (5 ) and I was when Darla and Alfalfa were in a boat and the rich kid was challenging them. She kept repeating..."They're gaining on us Alfalfa, they're gaining on us."
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Very interesting, not to mention, SCARY bits of trivia, HRG.

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Butch was never a dentist. His name was Tommy Bond. He used to sit in his wheelchair and sell autographed pictures at flea markets in Southern California. I used to see him frequently and talk with him when I lived in San Diego. He died around a year ago. He was a great guy.

**I just looked up the biography on "Butch". Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Bond
Damn - a memory is a terrible thing to waste. I had a dentist in SoCal that was a former Our Gang cast member - can't remember who, now.
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Snopes...again

I would have never thought to look this up on snopes.com, but I was trying to figure out who the dentist was (I see doctors, accountants, etc., but no dentist).
It says that the info is mostly correct (sighting Blake was Mickey not Spanky), but it also shows that others on the show lived long lives.

What I didn't know was there were at least 29 children that were on the show!

http://www.snopes.com/movies/other/ourgang.asp

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Classifying this entry as "True" or "False" is problematic. Although the facts stated in the example above are mostly true, we've listed this item as false because the implied significance of these facts that they represent an unusually high pattern of tragic deaths amongst a selected group — is not supported by the evidence.

In general, most "curse" lists which supposedly document remarkably high levels of premature deaths and other tragedies of life within a group of people connected by some common bond should be taken as nothing more than frivolous entertainment because they are constructed through a number of misleading means:

They list only entries that fit the assumed pattern, omitting any mention of the (usually much larger) group of entries that don't fit the pattern. They include inaccurate or distorted information in order to bolster their length with entries that don't appropriately belong there. They make the ordinary and commonplace seem unusual through the use of selective inclusion.

To amplify on that last point, we'd explain it this way: If one were to choose any group of thirty or so people born in the U.S. in the 1920s and 1930s and follow them through the course of their lives, it wouldn't be the least bit unusual to find that several of those people died well short of their average life expectancies due to disease, accident, homicide, or suicide. People get sick, die in accidents, and kill each other (or themselves) all the time; these are the facts of life (no pun intended), sad as they are. Such deaths may be tragedies, but they're hardly outside the pale of ordinary human experience.

Before we launch into specifics, let's briefly run down the lives of the 29 child actors who were regulars (i.e., appeared in fifteen or more installments) of the 221 Our Gang comedies (also known as The Little Rascals) produced between 1922 and 1944. This information was compiled from Leonard Maltin's book (The Little Rascals: The Life and Times of Our Gang), the Internet Movie Database (IMDb), and various news accounts:

Ernest Frederic Morrison ("Sunshine Sammy"): Appeared in 28 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in show business and aerospace industry. Died of cancer at age 76.

John Condon ("Jackie"): Appeared in 28 installments. Successful post-Rascals career as an accountant. Died of cancer at age 59.

Allen Clayton Hoskins, Jr. ("Farina"): Appeared in 105 installments. Successful post-Rascals career as a psychological technician. Died of cancer at age 59.

Richard Daniels, Jr. ("Mickey"): Appeared in 49 installments. Continued to work in show business in his post-Rascals career, then entered the engineering field and largely dropped out of sight after moving to Africa. Spent the last three years of his life as a taxi driver before dying alone in a San Diego hotel room of cirrhosis of the liver at age 55.

John H. Davis: ("Jackie"): Appeared in 19 installments. Successful post-Rascals career as a doctor. Died at age 78.

Mary A. Kornman ("Mary"): Appeared in 41 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in show business. Died of cancer at age 57.

Joe Cobb ("Joe"): Appeared in 86 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in aerospace. Died at age 85.

Andy Samuel ("Andy"): Appeared in 86 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in show business and art store management. Died at age 82.

John Morey Downs ("Johnny"): Appeared in 24 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in show business and real estate. Died of cancer at age 80.

Jay R. Smith ("Jay"): Appeared in 36 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in the retail business. Stabbed to death in Las Vegas at age 87 by a homeless man whom he had befriended.

Jean Darling ("Jean"): Appeared in 35 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in show business and mystery writing. Still alive at age 82.

Robert E. Hutchins ("Wheezer"): Appeared in 58 installments. Joined the Army Air Corps and died just short of age 20 when his plane crashed on landing during a training exercise.

Harry Spear ("Harry"): Appeared in 58 installments. Post-Rascals activities unknown. Maltin reports rumors that he was working in a bank or had become a surgeon; IMDb lists him as dying in 1969 at age 46; other sources claim he is still alive but denies being a former Little Rascal.

Mary Ann Jackson ("Mary Ann"): Appeared in 32 installments. Married, raised two children, and died of a heart attack at age 80.

Norman Myers Chaney ("Chubby"): Appeared in 32 installments. Died of a glandular ailment in early adulthood. (Maltin reports he was 18 years old at the time of his death; IMDb lists him as being 22.)

Jackie Cooper: Appeared in 32 installments. Very long and successful post-Rascals career in films and television. Still alive at age 82.

Dorothy DeBorba ("Echo"): Appeared in 32 installments. Married, raised two children, worked as a clerk at UC Berkeley. Still alive at age 80.

Matthew Beard, Jr.("Stymie"): Appeared in 36 installments. Had post-Rascal problems with drug addiction and served time in prison, eventually underwent successful rehabilitation and returned to show business. Died of pneumonia at age 56.

Jerry Tucker: Appeared in 36 installments. Successful post-Rascals career with RCA. Still alive at age 79.

George Robert McFarland ("Spanky"): Appeared in 95 installments. Successful post-Rascals career as a sales manager with Philco-Ford and a lecturer. Died of a heart attack at age 64.

Tommy Bond ("Butch"): Appeared in 27 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in television directing and production work. Died of heart disease at age 79.

Walton Albright ("Wally"): Successful post-Rascals career operating a trucking firm and winning championships in various water sports. Died at age 73.

John Richard Moore ("Dickie"): Successful post-Rascals career in show business and public relations. Still alive at age 79.

Scott Beckett ("Scotty"): Appeared in 15 installments. Suffered post-Rascals problems with divorce, violence, alcohol, drugs, and crime. Committed suicide by barbiturate overdose at age 38.

William Thomas, Jr. ("Buckwheat"): Appeared in 93 installments. Successful post-Rascals career as a film laboratory technician. Died of a heart attack at age 49.

Carl Dean Switzer ("Alfalfa"): Appeared in 61 installments. Worked at playing bit parts in film and television, tending bar, and serving as a hunting guide. Shot to death at age 31 in a dispute over a $50 debt.

Eugene Gordon Lee ("Porky"): Appeared in 42 installments. Operates a merchandise licensing company. Still alive at age 71.

Darla Hood ("Darla"): Appeared in 42 installments. Successful post-Rascals career in show business as a singer/songwriter and voice-over artist. Died of hepatitis at age 47.

Darwood Kaye ("Waldo"): Appeared in 21 installments. Had a successful post-Rascals career in show business before joining the ministry. Killed by a hit-and-run driver at age 72.

Robert Blake: ("Mickey," but inexplicably listed as "Spanky"): Appeared in 40 installments. Very long and successful post-Rascals career in show business. Arrested in April 2002 for the murder of his wife; acquitted at trial in March 2005. Still alive at age 71.

William Laughlin ("Froggy"): Appeared in 40 installments. Killed at age 16 when his bicycle was hit from behind by a truck.


Frankly, the first thing that seems evident from this list is that the Our Gang bunch has been, on average, remarkably long-lived (especially considering that many of the men served in the military during World War II). Prior to a detailed analysis of their longevitiy, however, we should first dispose of a couple of names that don't belong on this list:


Kendall McComas, who played "Breezy Brisbane," doesn't really belong here, because he appeared in a mere handful (8) of Our Gang films. (If we included every child actor who was in more than one installment of the Our Gang series, we'd just be making our case stronger by watering down the "cursed" list with an even greater preponderance of people who led very long and successful lives.) Although Kendall McComas did eventually commit suicide (reportedly because he was despondent over his forced retirement), he still enjoyed quite successful post-Rascals careers in show business and electrical engineering, and he was a few weeks short of his 65th birthday at the time of his death.

Although Photoplay magazine stated in 1930 that Pete the Pup (a pit bull) had been fatally poisoned, one cannot say that the "Pete the Pup" died, since (as was common practice with film animals) the part was played by a succession of several different animals (sometimes, reportedly, by multiple dogs within a single episode).

So, what do we find? Analyzing the information about the 28 Our Gang child stars described above (we've omitted Harry Spear from consideration because we can't reliably determine whether he's still alive or when he might have died), we calculate the following:


54% of the actors are still alive or lived to be at least 72 years old.

75% of the actors reached the average life expectancy at birth for persons of their time.
82% of the actors lived until at least their late 40s. (This may not sound like much by modern standards, but it's a significant figure given that the average life expectancy at birth for most of the actors listed here was in the mid-50s range.)

On the "tragic" side, we find that:

Three of the actors (11%) were victims of homicides (although two of the three were already well advanced in age at the time of their deaths).
Two of the actors (7%) were killed in accidents (and one of them was a military pilot, a high-risk occupation).

One of the actors (4%) committed suicide.
Two of the actors (7%) died prematurely from medical ailments.

Two of the actors (7%) had significant problems with substance abuse (and related crimes).

Although these percentages are much higher than one would expect to find among the general population, they're not at all out of line with reasonable expectations given the extremely small sample size (28) used here. One man's "curse" is another man's normal cross-section of society.

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