Warning-General Grabber UPH tire blow out

[tinyssnowplows]

On my way home from Florida yesterday, my left rear tire blew out. I stopped the vehicle safely and called a rollback and he took me to a tire dealer. We don't know why it blew. There were no punctures or cuts in the thread area. The sidewall was blown out in several places. I got another set of tires and went on my way. Arrived home safe.
Anyway the tire was 3 years old, had about 25,000 miles on it and had about 1/2 thread. I checked the air pressure about 1 month ago and it was fine. The tire was a General Grabber UPH 295/45/R20. I purchased all 4 at the same time and the other 3 are OK.
Did anyone else have a problem with this tire or does anyone know why it blew out? Thanks, Walter

Also 2 people that I would like to thank:

Jeff's Wrecker Service, Rocky Mount NC
&
Jim at Carolina Tire in Rocky Mount, NC

Both of these gentlemen went out of their way to get me going. If you can ever give them some business, I would appreciate it.

[hdflstf]

Not what you want to hear but it looks like a run flat to me.

It's always a good idea to check tire pressure before any road trip. With the low profile tires on the SSR it's hard to eyeball low pressure until it's done to near nothing. Rolling down the highway the tire generates heat from friction with the road and flexing as it rolls. Low pressure means more flexing and more heat. If you get hot enough, the rubber starts to soften and debond which allows more flex and heat... Finally the rubber comes apart far enough to let the air out and you get a 'blowout'.

[REBEL]

I have Grabbers all around also. And with Dayton tru knock off spoke wheels, which can start a slow leak at anyone of the 540 spokes, I have to check air all the time.

[turnheadz]

uuuuhhhhh!!! scary stuff, glad you are now home safe and sound

[ZoomAddict]

Installed the Grabbers on the '03 and still happy with them. Put a new set on the '05 and at least two were out of round in the first thousand miles. Replaced all four while out west with the Nittos and think they are a much better choice. No more Grabbers purchased here especially after reading about Tiny's experience.

[RaticalSSR]

Glad everything worked out for you and you made it home to PA alright.Will keep in mind the great help you received going thru NC on our way back on Sunday if we needed.

[Jerry226]

If you will check the dot number on the tires.I ordered my first set of Grabbers and they were 5 years old. I told them no way and left.Went to Discount tire and told them no older than 6 mo old or I wouldn't accept them.They got me new ones within 6 mo old. You could have a old set when you bought them.So check the dot no. and let the rest of us Grabber guys Know. I really like the grabbers and will buy another set unless yours were new when you bought them and blew out after only 3 yrs. Thanks

[Cape Cod Blur]

I got mine thru TireRack last year and checked the dates when they arrived, less then 3 months old. Love them too.

Jeff Cape Cod Blur

[tinyssnowplows]

Originally Posted by Jerry226

If you will check the dot number on the tires.I ordered my first set of Grabbers and they were 5 years old. I told them no way and left.Went to Discount tire and told them no older than 6 mo old or I wouldn't accept them.They got me new ones within 6 mo old. You could have a old set when you bought them.So check the dot no. and let the rest of us Grabber guys Know. I really like the grabbers and will buy another set unless yours were new when you bought them and blew out after only 3 yrs. Thanks

I do not know the manufacture date. I had to leave both rear tires at the dealer. I didn't have any room to take them. They couldn't find me any tires to match the size that I needed. I purchased 2 used 20" matched set of tires to get me home. It worked and we are home.
I am going to get 4 new tires. I will definately check the manufacture date.
I don't know what brand I am going to get.
It's a lonely feeling stuck on the interstate, 5:00pm, 500 miles from home, flat tire and no spare.
I got lucky this time and was on my way in only 3 1/2 hours.

Walter

[Jerry226]

Ok Thanks anyway. Hope you have better luck with what ever you get next time.

[DOOPHUS]

Here's the link to that "How Old Are Your Tires?" video . . .

Aged Tires: A Driving Hazard? | Video - ABC News

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tinyssnowplows

I do not know the manufacture date. I had to leave both rear tires at the dealer. I didn't have any room to take them. They couldn't find me any tires to match the size that I needed. I purchased 2 used 20" matched set of tires to get me home. It worked and we are home.
I am going to get 4 new tires. I will definately check the manufacture date.
I don't know what brand I am going to get.
It's a lonely feeling stuck on the interstate, 5:00pm, 500 miles from home, flat tire and no spare.
I got lucky this time and was on my way in only 3 1/2 hours.

Walter

Walt, check the dates on the fronts, just for the hell of it. They probably differed from the rears, but it would be interesting to know if they were new when you bought them.
Glad you made it safe.

[gwilli40]

I have grabbers all around, last month blew a front,a large bolt came threw it. Discount tire exchanged for $71.00, don't know the age of the tire but they have less than 500 miles, I like the tires, ride good and also have stiff plate and lc32 crossover with the generals a good ride. george

[Bam59]

hi,,i to got 4 new grabbers from tire rack under 8 mo. old, last nov. drove to detroit for the t-day game from fl. and back. they are so much better then the goodyears. i had to add about 5 lbs. of air after about 5 days which is nomal. the person at tire rack said all there tires are under a year old because they turn them over so fast..i do not know if that is true, also he said this tire tread design is under a year as of the time i got them..again i do not know if this is true. but i like them and have about 5000 miles on them.

[tinyssnowplows]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Walt, check the dates on the fronts, just for the hell of it. They probably differed from the rears, but it would be interesting to know if they were new when you bought them.
Glad you made it safe.

The fronts were made in 25/09, which is in June, 2009. I purchased them on
9/16/2009. That would make them fresh tires. I put 26,000 miles on them.
I don't know if the backs were the same date.
While checking the tires, I seen--MADE IN PORTUGAL--on them.

Walter

[DOOPHUS]

Originally Posted by tinyssnowplows

The fronts were made in 25/09, which is in June, 2009. I purchased them on
9/16/2009. That would make them fresh tires. I put 26,000 miles on them.
I don't know if the backs were the same date.
While checking the tires, I seen--MADE IN PORTUGAL--on them.

Walter

BUMMER, Walter . . . it's getting tougher and tougher to buy American.

I would have never purchased Grabbers if I had known.

! ! ! ! ! !

[Jerry226]

Anymore if it says Made in USA it is a collectors item. What a shame.

[Bam59]

HI,,, Were on the tire does it say were it is made. i looked all over the outside on both front and rear.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Probably on the inside along with the made date. That's where they put everything they don't want you to see.

[REBEL]

Tirerack.com has the spec's country of origen. depends on what size you get where it's made I see at least 4 countrys listed.

I love the tire myself.

Rim
Width
Range Meas.
Rim
Width Sect.
Width Tread
Width Overall
Diam. Revs
Per
Mile Country
of Origin*
205/50R15
Load Index 86 = 1168lbs (530kg) per tire
Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 86V SLMax Load = 1,165 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1165 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
18 lbs. 5.5-7.5"
6.5"
8.4"
NA
23.1"
881
Country of Origin "PT" = PORTUGALPT
205/55R15
Load Index 88 = 1235lbs (560kg) per tire
Speed Rating “V” = 149mph (240kph) 88V SLMax Load = 1,235 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1235 lbs.
51 psi
11/32"
19 lbs. 5.5-7.5"
6.5"
8.4"
NA
23.9"
859
Country of Origin "FR" = FRANCEFR
205/50ZR16
Load Index 87 = 1201lbs (545kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 87W SLMax Load = 1,201 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1201 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
19 lbs. 5.5-7.5"
6.5"
8.4"
NA
24.1"
853
Country of Origin "BR" = BRAZILBR , Country of Origin "FR" = FRANCEFR
215/55R16
Load Index 93 = 1433lbs (650kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 93W SLMax Load = 1,435 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1435 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
21 lbs. 6-7.5"
7"
8.9"
NA
25.3"
824
Country of Origin "BR" = BRAZILBR , Country of Origin "FR" = FRANCEFR , Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
225/50ZR16
Load Index 92 = 1389lbs (630kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 92W SLMax Load = 1,389 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1389 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
21 lbs. 6-8"
7"
9.2"
NA
24.7"
836
Country of Origin "FR" = FRANCEFR , Country of Origin "DE" = GERMANYDE
205/40ZR17
Load Index 84 = 1102lbs (500kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 84W XLMax Load = 1,102 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1102 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
18 lbs. 7-8"
7.5"
8.4"
NA
23.5"
877
Country of Origin "BR" = BRAZILBR , Country of Origin "FR" = FRANCEFR
215/45ZR17
Load Index 87 = 1201lbs (545kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 87W SLMax Load = 1,201 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1201 lbs.
51 psi
11/32"
18 lbs. 7-8"
7"
8.4"
NA
24.6"
848
Country of Origin "BR" = BRAZILBR , Country of Origin "FR" = FRANCEFR
255/35ZR18
Load Index 94 = 1477lbs (670kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 94W XLMax Load = 1,477 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1477 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
25 lbs. 8.5-10"
9"
10"
NA
25"
828
Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ , Country of Origin "DE" = GERMANYDE
265/40ZR18
Load Index 101 = 1819lbs (825kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 101W XLMax Load = 1,819 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
2008 Production Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1819 lbs.
51 psi

27 lbs. 0-0"


9.2"
NA

Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
285/30ZR18
Load Index 97 = 1609lbs (730kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 97W XLMax Load = 1,609 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
2008 Production Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1609 lbs.
51 psi

29 lbs. 0-0"


11"
NA

Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
255/35ZR19
Load Index 96 = 1565lbs (710kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 96W XLMax Load = 1,565 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1565 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
25 lbs. 8.5-10"
9"
10.4"
NA
26"
802
Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
235/30ZR20
Load Index 88 = 1235lbs (560kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 88W XLMax Load = 1,235 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1235 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
22 lbs. 8-9"
8.5"
9.8"
8.5"
25.6"
862
Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
255/35ZR21
Load Index 99 = 1709lbs (775kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 99W XLMax Load = 1,709 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
2008 Production Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1709 lbs.
51 psi

29 lbs. 0-0"


9.2"
NA

Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
285/30ZR22
Load Index 101 = 1819lbs (825kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 101W XLMax Load = 1,819 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1819 lbs.
51 psi

30 lbs. 0-0"


NA
NA

Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
305/25ZR22
Load Index 99 = 1709lbs (775kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph) 99W XLMax Load = 1,709 lbs
Max psi = 51 psi
2008 Production Treadwear: 380
Traction: A
Temperature: A380 A A 1709 lbs.
51 psi
10/32"
31 lbs. 10.5-11.5"
11"
12.3"
11.2"
28"
745
Country of Origin "CZ" = CZECH REPUBLICCZ
Size
Service Description
Load Range UTQG Max
Load Max.
Inflation
Press. Tread
Depth Tire
Weight Rim
Width
Range Meas.
Rim
Width Sect.
Width Tread
Width Overall
Diam. Revs
Per
Mile Country
of Origin*

[tinyssnowplows]

Actually because they are directional tires, the writing is on the inside in the pass. front and on the outside of the drivers front. That is the writing for the date code and the Made In Portugal.
The writing is in small print and close to the rim.