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Check out some of the parts for SSRs available from Simple Engineering and MPD and consider that others are also making replacement parts which are improvements over OEM.
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Would you rather have the OEM plastic radiator support that also ties the front frame rails together and holds the air dam,
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Would you rather have the OEM plastic radiator support that also ties the front frame rails together and holds the air dam,
or the Simple Engineering powder coated steel support for half the cost?

Ok Iíll give u this one but I havenít installed one of those but would also be surprised if it bolted right in without doing something to make it fit. Aftermarket parts seldom fit without massaging something. Also Iím a weight freek so a little extra is way to much especially once u add up all the different items installed versus a stock ssr without all the different upgrades. Now if weíre talking different cylinder heads or a aluminum rear end housing things that make it go faster I might sacrifice weight. Iíll take that junk GM spent millions of dollars on to engineer over stuff someone spent close to zero on. Maybe my car only damages the radiator support and not the frame rail when a collision occurs to that area who really knows.
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Ok I’ll give u this one but I haven’t installed one of those but would also be surprised if it bolted right in without doing something to make it fit. Aftermarket parts seldom fit without massaging something. Also I’m a weight freek so a little extra is way to much especially once u add up all the different items installed versus a stock ssr without all the different upgrades. Now if we’re talking different cylinder heads or a aluminum rear end housing things that make it go faster I might sacrifice weight. I’ll take that junk GM spent millions of dollars on to engineer over stuff someone spent close to zero on. Maybe my car only damages the radiator support and not the frame rail when a collision occurs to that area who really knows.
It bolts right in (period). It also supported my truck and prevented the floor jack from seriously damaging me and causing castostropic radiator and condenser damage.

If you want to save a few pounds, install the LC32 front crossmember, then the SE stiffening plate and the SE rad support. I’ve installed them all personally and know they all fit without modification. Your truck will be FAR more stable, therefore more fun to drive, about the same overall weight and stronger.
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Ok Iíll give u this one but I havenít installed one of those but would also be surprised if it bolted right in without doing something to make it fit. Aftermarket parts seldom fit without massaging something. Also Iím a weight freek so a little extra is way to much especially once u add up all the different items installed versus a stock ssr without all the different upgrades. Now if weíre talking different cylinder heads or a aluminum rear end housing things that make it go faster I might sacrifice weight. Iíll take that junk GM spent millions of dollars on to engineer over stuff someone spent close to zero on. Maybe my car only damages the radiator support and not the frame rail when a collision occurs to that area who really knows.
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3 time, I would suggest you go visit with @Mike in AZ; and I'll bet you feel a lot different and have a different perspective on SSR aftermarket parts. Bob "tennesseecozydog" Alexander
I was about to suggest the same thing, since you are in AZ. I will even suggest that you might want to click on Mike In AZ in one of his posts and check his profile and then search his posts for one with his phone number. I am sure you two would have a lot to talk about.


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So many of us have broken that support it's ridiculous, I didn't even know it until I saw the radiator hanging down parked at night in the headlights of the car behind.

I know exactly what you mean about aftermarket parts, I've pulled my hair out many times after the parts store is closed, plus I spent 5 years behind the counter at Kanuika's speed shop listening to irate customers.

On the weight you're thinking in race car mode. Although they can be made much quicker than stock this truck is no race car, reliability, dependability, are the prime objective for a road car. Unless you want it to be known as unreliable to keep the boss from taking it shopping all the time.

Everything from Simple Engineering fits and has been tested on Mike's truck and/or some of the Fanatics in his area.

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Ok Iíll give u this one but I havenít installed one of those but would also be surprised if it bolted right in without doing something to make it fit. Aftermarket parts seldom fit without massaging something. Also Iím a weight freek so a little extra is way to much especially once u add up all the different items installed versus a stock ssr without all the different upgrades. Now if weíre talking different cylinder heads or a aluminum rear end housing things that make it go faster I might sacrifice weight. Iíll take that junk GM spent millions of dollars on to engineer over stuff someone spent close to zero on. Maybe my car only damages the radiator support and not the frame rail when a collision occurs to that area who really knows.
3time and since you are new and haven't had a chance to check the quality and fit of Mike at Simple Engineering's stuff I will cut you some slack. I know that a lot of aftermarket products do not equal oem parts quality BUT that is not the case when Mike (who is a SSR owner) offers an upgraded replacement. Some of the parts that GM engineers used on our trucks should have been grounds for pulling their license! Radiator lower mount made of plastic and radiator held in with zip ties , Cross bracing so light weight it wouldn't make a good bicycle frame , and a fan from a VW for a Corvette engine just to name a few. All the Simple Eng. replacements for these mistakes are upgrades that you and your truck will be glad you did ! Don't take my word for this , just ask any of the very experienced owners that hang out on this site . There is a wealth of knowledge here , give a listen , you will be glad you did.
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Ok Iíll give u this one but I havenít installed one of those but would also be surprised if it bolted right in without doing something to make it fit. Aftermarket parts seldom fit without massaging something. Also Iím a weight freek so a little extra is way to much especially once u add up all the different items installed versus a stock ssr without all the different upgrades. Now if weíre talking different cylinder heads or a aluminum rear end housing things that make it go faster I might sacrifice weight. Iíll take that junk GM spent millions of dollars on to engineer over stuff someone spent close to zero on. Maybe my car only damages the radiator support and not the frame rail when a collision occurs to that area who really knows.
I just installed one of Simple Engineering's lower radiator supports last week. It was a perfect fit, no mods whatsoever, and took about 20 minutes to install. Weight difference? Maybe a couple of pounds, but who would really care anyway? It's 1000% stronger than the stock support, plus allows for better wheel alignment, and gives me great peace of mind. I've seen too many examples on this site of the cheap factory plastic supports breaking. Ask anyone on this site that has installed any of Mikes parts...he knows what he's doing and everything he makes and sells is of high quality. Plus, he includes installation instructions that couldn't be more detailed. We're very fortunate to have a person like Mike that cares enough about the vehicles we own to design, construct, and sell the kind of parts we need to make them more reliable and enjoyable. Thanks Mike!
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How much you askin' for the Dust Cash ??? I guess the best question is are you sellin' or collectin' ??? tennesseecozydog
Powder coating is specialized but dust-coating is a time sensitive process
I am a one-time seller on this item
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3time and since you are new and haven't had a chance to check the quality and fit of Mike at Simple Engineering's stuff I will cut you some slack. I know that a lot of aftermarket products do not equal oem parts quality BUT that is not the case when Mike (who is a SSR owner) offers an upgraded replacement. Some of the parts that GM engineers used on our trucks should have been grounds for pulling their license! Radiator lower mount made of plastic and radiator held in with zip ties , Cross bracing so light weight it wouldn't make a good bicycle frame , and a fan from a VW for a Corvette engine just to name a few. All the Simple Eng. replacements for these mistakes are upgrades that you and your truck will be glad you did ! Don't take my word for this , just ask any of the very experienced owners that hang out on this site . There is a wealth of knowledge here , give a listen , you will be glad you did.
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I will def check mike out but i will probably never bolt something on my car unless its either lighter or more efficient. i can tell u all are car lovers and im one as well. My father has same year as mine we both purchased at same time and yes he has tore his support out which i did replace. I promote a auto museum along with keeping all the drivers "cars" going. I also owned a 2001 corvette and was amazed when i noticed the whole front body ,radiator support was basically glued on. amazing cars tho i did sell that car but i still have my 1968 corvette convertible that I've gutted except for the essentials 2180 lb with half a tank of gas and 630 hp. weight is and always will be my enemy and i hate to loose more than anyone in here. The SSR is not a daily driver its a fun car for me and the wife. Looking forward to a rally but u might not see me in a SSR since i love driving 12 cylinder caddy's or a old hudson there are so many in the museum that are crying out for me to drive them.
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I just installed one of Simple Engineering's lower radiator supports last week. It was a perfect fit, no mods whatsoever, and took about 20 minutes to install. Weight difference? Maybe a couple of pounds, but who would really care anyway? It's 1000% stronger than the stock support, plus allows for better wheel alignment, and gives me great peace of mind. I've seen too many examples on this site of the cheap factory plastic supports breaking. Ask anyone on this site that has installed any of Mikes parts...he knows what he's doing and everything he makes and sells is of high quality. Plus, he includes installation instructions that couldn't be more detailed. We're very fortunate to have a person like Mike that cares enough about the vehicles we own to design, construct, and sell the kind of parts we need to make them more reliable and enjoyable. Thanks Mike!
Also nobody has said a word about what happens in the event of a impact to this reinforced support if my car walks away with no rail damage and your's didn't my car is fixable and u now get to argue with a insurance company about the value of your totaled car. my smile just got a whole lot bigger. My point is GM spent millions and mike spent $100s GM crashed these cars did mike ? GM knows the amount of Gs a body can take does mike ? Please don't take this wrong i know that support is junk but its that way for a reason. Race cars went through a period where the were to rigid and it started hurting drivers and now everything has crush zones so without carful consideration of these and the thinking behind them could cost u a car you love or a life u love. I do push things to far and say what i feel but I've seen crazy things happen and i will always step up and say something even tho u don't want to hear it. passion drives us people keep us coming back
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@3 time , you are more than entitled to your opinion. If you haven't already checked out the other threads under the "FORUM" title, do so. Some of are old hotrodders, so you know we are hard headed! Others are just people who love the SSR as is. Most are stone stock, others have changed the Cam, Heads, Rear end gears, Supercharged, I think one Duel turbos. And most of the charter/starters of the "Forum" were employed with GM at the "Lansing Craft Centre" and had HANDS ON of the Assembly, and Engineering. So we trust their opinion and suggestions and consider their parts to be UPGRADES not modifications. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll be corrected.

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Well, you have for sure demonstrated this quote........" ďIím a sarcastic ass hole as wellĒ.

While you're claiming all this knowledge about Vettes and race cars, it's NOT at all clear you have spent much if any time exploring/knowing the background of these unique SSR's.

Why you would (sorta) seem to defend the application of a plastic radiator support that spans the frame rails and attempt to make an off-handed analogy as to the results of a potential crash or whatever........was mindless/baseless.

Once you have spent some time, reviewing the history of the SSR and how they used a Volkswagen radiator fan and a A/C/Heat system with controls from some other brand and other odd ball "engineering" things that were done..........you might just sing a different tune and understand that Mikes stuff and many other after-market offerings are exactly that Better than "stock".

By the way, with a pretty close to 4800 pound "sled" with no body in it, your attempt any significant (weight savings) is pizzing in the wind.
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Hmm Isn't the weather beautiful.
Yes, Especially with the top down driving through town with a group of other SSRs when most people in town have never seen one.
Don't take our comments the wrong way, just get to know us. I suspect you will find many of us have been in your shoes in one way or another.


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Seems now Iím gonna have to use that driver side regulator I purchased a month ago. Had 1 rebuilt here locally for $175 about a month ago and at the same time I seen driver side New gm part for sale on eBay so I bought it just in case. As for mike from simple engineering I did ask around and he is as u say a class act with good products. Also Iím still thinking about the fix to under hood juction box. I was able to fix mine in about 20 min with the clues I read here but something is bothering me about it and I will update my opinion on that soon.
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Also nobody has said a word about what happens in the event of a impact to this reinforced support if my car walks away with no rail damage and your's didn't my car is fixable and u now get to argue with a insurance company about the value of your totaled car. my smile just got a whole lot bigger. My point is GM spent millions and mike spent $100s GM crashed these cars did mike ? GM knows the amount of Gs a body can take does mike ? Please don't take this wrong i know that support is junk but its that way for a reason. Race cars went through a period where the were to rigid and it started hurting drivers and now everything has crush zones so without carful consideration of these and the thinking behind them could cost u a car you love or a life u love. I do push things to far and say what i feel but I've seen crazy things happen and i will always step up and say something even tho u don't want to hear it. passion drives us people keep us coming back
I read this and all I can say is wow. First thing if you hit a curb with the plastic support it will break and take out the radiator before you know what is going on. With the metal one you are going to hear it and know to stop going any further. Second it is strong enough to probably stop the truck in a parking situation. Now one member hit an animal in the road and took out his plastic support. After he installed Mike's he hit something else quite heavier and no damage to the radiator.


Now as for crush zones on the truck, that is built into the inner body structure and not the radiator support. In a head on collision the front bumper support and frame rails will take the impact long before the radiator support would have any chance to do harm. The frames in these trucks are pretty robust and I am sure the radiator support Mike builds is not going to move the frame rails in an accident.
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