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I was just going through some ZR1 data and noticed that a design criteria for the twin disc clutch was to not exceed the pedal effort of the LS7 Z06 clutch. They were satisfied that they reached that goal with the ZR1 clutch and also gained additional clamp load along with better pedal feel.

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You know M, what would help out is if GM would put a pkg. together with a flywheel and the ZR1 clutch that would bolt on all the other LS cranks. They could drive the conversion cost way down by fabricating such a flywheel. The stock SSR slave will work just perfectly, so you could do it much cheaper than I did, if that flywheel was available.

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Alright Anne, I can finally give you the " romp report ".


That's awesome news Ken.... I am so happy to hear your raving review! One of these days I am going to go for it. I will never miss the smell of clutch! Have fun... go get a 'Stang for me.


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Anne, I bet I know where I could find you at the dragstrip - downwind from the burnout box?!

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That goes without sayin, Anne! I smell a lot of rotting horseflesh, when we get those Southern winds!

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My SSR:
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Bump for SSR71.

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Bump for SSR71.
And thanks for the bump. As soon as I started reading, I do recall seeing it before, but never came back for the conclusion.

Not sure when I'll be doing the clutch on mine, but I think this will be the way I go. To summarize, the stock slave cylinder will work, but we'll need the custom flywheel and LS9 clutch/pressure plate?


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Yep, the stock slave will work, but unless you're planning to reuse your original, the ZR1 slave is identical other than it has provisions for an remote bleeder. I think the ZR1 slave is also cheaper and the SSR wasn't even available when I did my install.

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It has been awhile since you upgraded your clutch. How is it holding up?
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I'm very pleased with the twin disc setup!

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My SSR:
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Last winter I installed the upgraded version of the ZR1 clutch, to test it out for my future large cubic inch engine combo. This clutch is of the same design and made by the same manufacturer as the original, but is supposed to provide 20% more clamp load, with similar pedal feel. Well, I don't doubt the increased holding power, it's supposed to be good to 960 #ft, but I do dispute the similar pedal effort. My feeling is that pedal pressure is increased by 30-40%, for certain. Enough increase that it's uncomfortable in stop and go driving, unlike the stock ZR1 unit.

I'm in the process of re-installing the original stock ZR1 unit and running it until I have a problem, if ever. Possibly a larger bore master cylinder would help the Max version, but I'm not going there now! For comparison, the Max version is $750, while the stock version is around $420.

End of story for the immediate future!

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Last winter I installed the upgraded version of the ZR1 clutch, to test it out for my future large cubic inch engine combo. This clutch is of the same design and made by the same manufacturer as the original, but is supposed to provide 20% more clamp load, with similar pedal feel. Well, I don't doubt the increased holding power, it's supposed to be good to 960 #ft, but I do dispute the similar pedal effort. My feeling is that pedal pressure is increased by 30-40%, for certain. Enough increase that it's uncomfortable in stop and go driving, unlike the stock ZR1 unit.

I'm in the process of re-installing the original stock ZR1 unit and running it until I have a problem, if ever. Possibly a larger bore master cylinder would help the Max version, but I'm not going there now! For comparison, the Max version is $750, while the stock version is around $420.

End of story for the immediate future!
Larger bored master would make for more pedal effort. Smaller bore, longer stroke would make for less effort. Of course then there's the issues that create with how to get more travel.
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Jeff, this is the thread with the reservoir in it. I'll post the source here when I locate it.

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Jeff, this is the thread with the reservoir in it. I'll post the source here when I locate it.
Thanks for the info Ken; I found the post earlier today.
I looked around a bit and found what looks to be very similar. It's a Wilwood remote brake reservoir, 4oz capacity with an outlet on the bottom. It looks like i can just replace the outlet nipple with a barbed fitting and i'm good to go.

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That's a good find, Jeff! The one that I'm using is made by Kugel Komponents and is slightly smaller in capacity @ 2.75 oz. It's also a little more expensive @ $110. Both, I'm sure, are well made and will do the job!

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This will be the forth summer on my clutch swap and overall I remain quite pleased. It would appear that the LS7 swap is also well received, as I've only seen a couple of issues reported on it. Both are a giant step up from the factory dual mass setup!

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In the middle of my ls7 swap right now with tranny removed and all old parts off. Got the remote bleeder line for the new slave from Tick performance and waiting for LS7 cltuch kit and flywheel. My original clutch lasted 92,000 miles and from what I can tell the slave cyl was probably the item that went out as the bearing was making noise a couple weeks before the clutch gave up and there was some fluid in the bellhousing area. Also the clutch disc was worn very near to the rivets with signs of fluid on the mating surfaces of flywheel and pressure plate. The dual mass flywheel had about 1 inch of freeplay which I thought was alot but not sure how tight these are new. It is getting replaced anyway. Rear main oil seal seems to be holding up but the plastic wire loom stuff is crumbling apart obviously from the heat of 9 years. Also noticed the rectangular shifter cover that has 4 bolts was not sealed very well and it accumulated some dirt so will reseal that better after reinstall. Looking forward to a good clutch.
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In the middle of my ls7 swap right now with tranny removed and all old parts off. Got the remote bleeder line for the new slave from Tick performance and waiting for LS7 cltuch kit and flywheel. My original clutch lasted 92,000 miles and from what I can tell the slave cyl was probably the item that went out as the bearing was making noise a couple weeks before the clutch gave up and there was some fluid in the bellhousing area. Also the clutch disc was worn very near to the rivets with signs of fluid on the mating surfaces of flywheel and pressure plate. The dual mass flywheel had about 1 inch of freeplay which I thought was alot but not sure how tight these are new. It is getting replaced anyway. Rear main oil seal seems to be holding up but the plastic wire loom stuff is crumbling apart obviously from the heat of 9 years. Also noticed the rectangular shifter cover that has 4 bolts was not sealed very well and it accumulated some dirt so will reseal that better after reinstall. Looking forward to a good clutch.
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Any details on the part # for the remote bleeder line from Tick Performance. Is the clutch end a straight fitting or is it angled? how long is the tube?


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Waiting a response from Tick as the slave bleeder connection from the line is not correct. Lonnie said he used the line on other SSR LS7 conversions so maybe mine is packaged wrong. Line is 36" long with one end straight the other end 90 degree bend. I will post p/n when verified correct.
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The bleeder i used from tick was strait. I believe for the Camaro. I had to cut a notch in the bell housing, no sweat.

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Hey Topspin. Do you remember when you installed your remote bleeder. Was the end where it attached straight or angled? I am thinking it needs to be angled because we bent mine to get it to fit and that is what caused all my problems.

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Hey Topspin. Do you remember when you installed your remote bleeder. Was the end where it attached straight or angled? I am thinking it needs to be angled because we bent mine to get it to fit and that is what caused all my problems.
Take a look at post #43.

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Tick confirmed they sent the wrong bleeder line. I did notch the trans. bellhousing for the slave feed line as that is now routed through the hole just below where the original was as shown in Topspin photos post #43. May have to notch bleeder line hole also but waiting for the correct line before I do that. LS 7 flywheel, pilot bearing, clutch disc, and press. plate all installed and torqued with no issues but bleeder line is holding up progress. I really appreciate the work and postings others have done to help facilitate my clutch swap. Huge help.
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Tick confirmed they sent the wrong bleeder line. I did notch the trans. bellhousing for the slave feed line as that is now routed through the hole just below where the original was as shown in Topspin photos post #43. May have to notch bleeder line hole also but waiting for the correct line before I do that. LS 7 flywheel, pilot bearing, clutch disc, and press. plate all installed and torqued with no issues but bleeder line is holding up progress. I really appreciate the work and postings others have done to help facilitate my clutch swap. Huge help.
When you receive the new bleeder line how about posting a pic. Is it the same one that fits the Camaro?

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Rec'd the correct bleeder line. This one is straight-both ends-which is actually perfect cause it goes straight out the original slot in the bellhousing where original feed line went through-part number is TPSBL5G from Tick performance and called Speedbleeder line for 2010-2014 Camaro SS, 2009 Pontiac G8, & 04-07 CTS-V. Just remove the bleeder that the slave comes with and install this line in it's place as it has the correct fittings. The line can be routed to a position of your choice for easy bleed of the clutch system.
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