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Yep, that's it. To run it though, you need LC32's crossmember and AC bracket.

I'll bump an old thread " C6 oil pan modifications " that has some info that might interest you.
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Hi All,

Looking for any recommended shops for a tune and/or rear axle swap in Vancouver BC area or Bellingham WA, even down to Seattle.

I have an 04 SSR automatic with no mods, BUT you all have me feeling really keen.

great site, thanks for ALL the info!
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I had my rear end gears changed at CJ Automotive off 24th near KG
my tune was done a MOPAC off 200th in Langley

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let me know if you find a good ssr mechanic in wichita i just purchased 2005
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Topspin Let me see if I have this clear regards 4:30 gears and for the auto '06. There's no 4.30's available for the 9.5 axle and the MGR-GM10-430 -4:30, are GM, 8.5 axle.

So, I may as well give up thinking 4:30 is possible? I'm not sure I see any real value for the expense of moving from 3:73 to 4:10 and certainly not interested in 4:56. The sweet spot seems elusive.

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I think that there are 4:30's out there for auto's rear axle, but not 6 spds. I think. I think. I think. UNLESS the '06 is different than '05.

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Topspin Let me see if I have this clear regards 4:30 gears and for the auto '06. There's no 4.30's available for the 9.5 axle and the MGR-GM10-430 -4:30, are GM, 8.5 axle.

So, I may as well give up thinking 4:30 is possible? I'm not sure I see any real value for the expense of moving from 3:73 to 4:10 and certainly not interested in 4:56. The sweet spot seems elusive.

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I have never found a source for 4.30s, for the 9.5" axle.

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I think that there are 4:30's out there for auto's rear axle, but not 6 spds. I think. I think. I think. UNLESS the '06 is different than '05.

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Dave, you're correct, there is the 4.30 option for the automatic axle, only!

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Topspin Let me see if I have this clear regards 4:30 gears and for the auto '06. There's no 4.30's available for the 9.5 axle and the MGR-GM10-430 -4:30, are GM, 8.5 axle.

So, I may as well give up thinking 4:30 is possible? I'm not sure I see any real value for the expense of moving from 3:73 to 4:10 and certainly not interested in 4:56. The sweet spot seems elusive.

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Dave, you're correct, there is the 4.30 option for the automatic axle, only!
I have 4.56 - 6sp - Flassh has 4.10 6sp
I rather think the ideal may be in between, but we both know 3.73 is not the ideal.

The same for the automatic - if I had to make a decision for an automatic - I think 4.10, maybe the 4.56 - but would go to 4.30's if available.
Whatever decision will be far better than the 3.73.

Just an opinion
It is so much easier to understand/feel the differences when you have the 6sp
I had an 05 automatic and coasted about just fine with the 3.73's


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I would have gone with the 4.30's for my 6 spd, but alas, I couldn't find anywhere.

I don't know if I would go with the 4.56's in the auto if your primary driving is the 75 to 80 range. The 4.30 might be a bit much for the way I drive in an auto. But, the 4.30's for it are out there.

But that's just me.

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I have a 05 with auto and 4.30. Works great. Bought it from Summit. I guess that it is the same rear axle in 05 and 06. So 4.30 is available. Unfortunately I don't remember the part number, but if you contact Summit I'm sure they could help finding the right one.
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Thanks, I must have misunderstood, so an auto 06 in 4:30 is available through Summit. Are these gears quiet? Thinking this would be a good addition to Greg's converter -Which produced a night and day experience -Best bang for buck to date.

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IMO the installation is the main thing in the "quiet" of well made gears. It is good to have an installer with experience in this kind of thing. Mine are not from Summit and there is no noise. I use an additive and changed the gear oil after 1,000 miles.

Your 4.30 auto is going to be lowered geared at the top than a 6 spd with 4.56's. (See the previously posted chart) I think my tuned '05 has a sweet spot at the 2000 to 2200 rpm on fairly level roads and that is the RPM that feels comfortable to me. I can still get quick response and it doesn't seem to lug it at all. It would be higher geared than the auto, but I can downshift to 5th and still not turn to too tight at 65 or so. (mountain driving)

Just my opinion, but I have not had trouble with anything I have purchased at Summit.

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I did my 05-6speed to a 4.56 gear and clutch change more than a year ago and I love it. At first I thought 1st would become useless but it is a great combination. 70 in 6th is right about 2000 rpm and it allows the cruise control to handle hills much better.

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The 4.30 I bought from Summit is from Motive Gear. Motive Gears part number is R10RLMK, Bearing, gasket & seal kit 10 BO. It is quiet. But it is as Dave says, it's a matter of installation.
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For Speedo corrections, here's the latest info as of today. I just spoke to Keith @ PCM for less. He can and does do the needed corrections - he claims to do several per week. I'm not certain if Bryan Herter is involved with the company any longer? Anyway, the cost for a general performance tune, along with the speedo correction, is $265. You can send in your ECM or travel to their location in Stow, OH. Their # is 724 349 4431. If you send your ECM to them, expect 7-10 day turn around time, according to Keith.

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Thanks for the update! Much appreciated!

Is your formula in post one for the 6 speed? It must be different for manual vs. automatic as I could not get the RPMs to come out right for my '05 automatic.

This site will calculate speed based on RPM: Gear Ratios, RPM and Tire Diameter to MPH with Shift Points Calculator
Click bullet for "top gear 4" (for 4 speed automatics)
Transmission gear ratios for Automatics:
enter transmission gear ratios: 3.06, 1.62, 1, .7
Enter rear end gear ratio. for example 4.30 or 4.56
Stock rear tire diameter is 29.29".
Then play with the RPM slider to see speed vs. RPM.

For manuals:
Click bullet for "top gear 6"
enter transmission gear ratios: 2.66, 1.18, 1.30, 1.00, 0.74, 0.50
Enter rear end gear ratio. for example 4.30 or 4.56
Stock rear tire diameter is 29.29".

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The link in post42 is dead and is for sale. This was to PCM4Less in PA. But apparently no longer exists (2011 post).
Post 70 has previous tuners' contact info. Anyone try that?
Post 93 is PCM4Less in North Carolina.
A google search for PCM4Less took me to the Ohio site that Topspin just mentioned. So I guess this is the place to use. Good to know there is still a tuner that can correct the speedometer!
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Thanks for the update! Much appreciated!

Is your formula in post one for the 6 speed? It must be different for manual vs. automatic as I could not get the RPMs to come out right for my '05 automatic.

This site will calculate speed based on RPM: Gear Ratios, RPM and Tire Diameter to MPH with Shift Points Calculator
Click bullet for "top gear 4" (for 4 speed automatics)
Transmission gear ratios for Automatics:
enter transmission gear ratios: 3.06, 1.62, 1, .7
Enter rear end gear ratio. for example 4.30 or 4.56
Stock rear tire diameter is 29.29".
Then play with the RPM slider to see speed vs. RPM.

For manuals:
Click bullet for "top gear 6"
enter transmission gear ratios: 2.66, 1.18, 1.30, 1.00, 0.74, 0.50
Enter rear end gear ratio. for example 4.30 or 4.56
Stock rear tire diameter is 29.29".

FYI
The link in post42 is dead and is for sale. This was to PCM4Less in PA. But apparently no longer exists (2011 post).
Post 70 has previous tuners' contact info. Anyone try that?
Post 93 is PCM4Less in North Carolina.
A google search for PCM4Less took me to the Ohio site that Topspin just mentioned. So I guess this is the place to use. Good to know there is still a tuner that can correct the speedometer!

The ratios that you have listed are for the common Vette manual trans which isn't used in the SSR. A special ratio package, along with a stronger, larger diameter output shaft, was developed for the SSR. It's the M10 version and has ratios of 3.01, 2.07, 1.43, 1, .84, .56.

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The ratios that you have listed are for the common Vette manual trans which isn't used in the SSR. A special ratio package, along with a stronger, larger diameter output shaft, was developed for the SSR. It's the M10 version and has ratios of 3.01, 2.07, 1.43, 1, .84, .56.
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This topic seems to come up endlessly, so I'll bring this thread out of mothballs.
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I'm still considering the rear gear swap and this old post brings about a few questions.

1. Is this pcm for less place the go to outfit for getting the speedo corrected after the gear swap......and is it the ECM or what that is needed for that correction.
2. I noted that (along with the speedo correction), a tune was part of the overall charge. WHY would I need to have a tune done just because I swapped out rear gears. If I had an automatic, maybe the tune would include altering (shift points).........but I have a six speed. Not seeing any connection to have a tune done for a gear change???

3. Why and/or for what reason does someone feel the need to swap out the oil pan for the C6 pan??? I read somewhere about front sump versus rear sump.........degree of adequate oiling, etc. Unless you're making multiple full out runs at the local drag strip, why would one swap out the oil pan. Please enlighten me on that topic.
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I'm still considering the rear gear swap and this old post brings about a few questions.

1. Is this pcm for less place the go to outfit for getting the speedo corrected after the gear swap......and is it the ECM or what that is needed for that correction.
2. I noted that (along with the speedo correction), a tune was part of the overall charge. WHY would I need to have a tune done just because I swapped out rear gears. If I had an automatic, maybe the tune would include altering (shift points).........but I have a six speed. Not seeing any connection to have a tune done for a gear change???

3. Why and/or for what reason does someone feel the need to swap out the oil pan for the C6 pan??? I read somewhere about front sump versus rear sump.........degree of adequate oiling, etc. Unless you're making multiple full out runs at the local drag strip, why would one swap out the oil pan. Please enlighten me on that topic.
Yes, they have the software and knowledge to make the speedo correction. Getting the tune allows you to change fan settings along with altering fuel/timing maps to increase performance and mileage. Other things that can be altered are torque management, top speed limiter, and rpm limiter.

The stock oil pan is of very poor design and can lead to oil starvation issues during spirited driving. There has been lots of reported bearing failure from the Trailblazer SS group that use the same oil pan. The C6 pan is certainly a dramatic improvement if you tend to drive aggressively.

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The 4.56 in 05 was a big improvement especially if you are on cruise at highway speeds in 6th gear. Holds rock steady on cruise. With stock gears would slow going up grades and speed up down hills. Also fuel mileage increases around town a mile or two. In 05; 06's you have to reprogram computer to adjust speedo for gear change and not many places have software to do it.
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