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post #151 of 187 (permalink) Old 09-14-2018, 08:15 AM
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The 4.56 in 05 was a big improvement especially if you are on cruise at highway speeds in 6th gear. Holds rock steady on cruise. With stock gears would slow going up grades and speed up down hills. Also fuel mileage increases around town a mile or two. In 05; 06's you have to reprogram computer to adjust speedo for gear change and not many places have software to do it.

Plan on doing the gear swap in another month or two. Meantime, am interested in what brand/type of exhaust cutouts you used. Kinda want to do that also...........
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Keith Wenzel @ PCM4less, located in Stow, OH - 724 349 4431. He uses LS2 Edit software which seems to be the only one that works! If someone says they can do the correction using HP Tuners software, they more than likely will not be successful!! I have not heard of a successful correction using HP Tuners to date.

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Latest info for speedo corrections for 05/06s is to contact:

Keith Wenzel @ PCM4less, located in Stow, OH - 724 349 4431. He uses LS2 Edit software which seems to be the only one that works! If someone says they can do the correction using HP Tuners software, they more than likely will not be successful!! I have not heard of a successful correction using HP Tuners to date.

Topspin, I can certainly back up that claim. Wish I knew that all just a few months ago when I made my gear swap. It would have saved me a lot of time and grief.

Both "Tuning Shops" that worked on mine (other than Keith), used HP Tuner. Neither of them (at the time) realized that their setup could not make proper alterations to the speedo effectively on an 05/06 SSR.

They do now, but they found out at my expense.
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Topspin, I can certainly back up that claim. Wish I knew that all just a few months ago when I made my gear swap. It would have saved me a lot of time and grief.

Both "Tuning Shops" that worked on mine (other than Keith), used HP Tuner. Neither of them (at the time) realized that their setup could not make proper alterations to the speedo effectively on an 05/06 SSR.

They do now, but they found out at my expense.
That's why I made this thread, to try to steer members in the right direction. If you look at posts 32-40 you'll see that this issue was discussed with the result being, LS2 edit was the only solution!

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That's why I made this thread, to try to steer members in the right direction. If you look at posts 32-40 you'll see that this issue was discussed with the result being, LS2 edit was the only solution!
This is why we need to remind everyone, especially newcomers, to read threads from the top the first time. #1 you may find that the thread is years old and item you are looking for is likely gone; #2 You may find the answer to the question you want to ask and so you do not need to ask it again.
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I dropped my truck at Keith's house after the gear swap (2005, 6 speed, 4.56 gears). He is only 25 miles from me. He got the speedo within 1/2 mph compared to GPS.
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PS He probably still has the program on file for the speedo correction.
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I just ordered the Motive 430 set for my R today. Ordered from Summit. Will be here next week. Will have them done when the rear main gets done,probably two weeks or so. I'm just waiting on the weather to straighten up. Will be nice to feel the kick in the pants feeling. My tuner works there too and will adjust the speedometer at that time.
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Dave, can't wait to hear feedback on your 4:30 gear swap. I put 4:11 gears in mine and they definitely made an impact.
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It goes in on Tuesday for rear main plate replacement and the rear gears. I'm really impatiently waiting. I'll post back after it's done. Hope to have them broke in enough to make the drive down for the Texas get together in April.


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Do what they say and take it easy for the first few hundred miles. Vary your speeds and refrain from hard launches.
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Refraining from launching is going to be the hardest part. I sometimes have a itchy right foot.


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Well he didn't get started until yesterday and they had it done this afternoon. No drips.and man does that 430 gear make a difference. The rpms at 45 are about 1500 and the take off is fantastic. Didn't get it real hard,but it scars quickly. Change the tune for the speedometer and all is good. He had to change it before they could even road test it because the traction control wouldn't let it go. Every thing is nice and quiet and alls good. Little truck is back home and going to a coffee and cars in the morning for a few hours.


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Well he didn't get started until yesterday and they had it done this afternoon. No drips.and man does that 430 gear make a difference. The rpms at 45 are about 1500 and the take off is fantastic. Didn't get it real hard,but it scars quickly. Change the tune for the speedometer and all is good. He had to change it before they could even road test it because the traction control wouldn't let it go. Every thing is nice and quiet and alls good. Little truck is back home and going to a coffee and cars in the morning for a few hours.
Congrats, great choice on the 4.30! I believe that's the perfect ratio for the auto and the 4.56 is perfect for the stick.
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Well he didn't get started until yesterday and they had it done this afternoon. No drips.and man does that 430 gear make a difference. The rpms at 45 are about 1500 and the take off is fantastic. Didn't get it real hard,but it scars quickly. Change the tune for the speedometer and all is good. He had to change it before they could even road test it because the traction control wouldn't let it go. Every thing is nice and quiet and alls good. Little truck is back home and going to a coffee and cars in the morning for a few hours.
Please let us know what you have to do to fix the speedo problem???


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Auggie, on the 04 it's a easy do. You just reprogram the computer. Not so much on the 05-06. You have to have a special program to do those.


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Glad to hear the good news, Dave. I'm betting you'll be hammering the snot out of that bumble bee as soon as the gears are broken in. Talk about a permagrin!!!

BTW... what's your rpm at 75 mph??
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Mark, just got back from a little in town and highway cruise. Drove about 100 miles.At 75 turns right at 2600 rpm. Makes the rumbler,rumble. Dropped the mpg down from 18.4 to 18.1. I can live with that.


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Mark, just got back from a little in town and highway cruise. Drove about 100 miles.At 75 turns right at 2600 rpm. Makes the rumbler,rumble. Dropped the mpg down from 18.4 to 18.1. I can live with that.
What RPM was it at 75 MPH before the swap if you remember? Thanks. Might do mine but deadly afraid of the speedo thing as mine is an 05.


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75 mph in a 5.3 with stock rear end is around 2200 rpm. 4:10 gears run at around 2500 rpm. 4:56 gears scream at almost 3000 rpm. And now, Dave's numbers are 2600 rpm for the 4:30 gears.
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The first two is what mine was and is now.


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Well crap. Lost two bearings in the rear last Sunday. Went from vibrating to gear howl. Had all four bearings replaced,gears rest and checked. Still howls,bad. Summit is replacing gears and installing kit. Motive won't do anything on labor. New gears in on Monday. Can still drive it,but man it's noisy. Going torain and storm all weekend and I drove it back home and put it in the garage.


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Yes,they came with the install kit.


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Yes,they came with the install kit.
But did the shop install them???
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Auggie,I trust these guys. So yes they did. It was just bad bearings. I saw the punkin install just before it was buttoned up and the pile of old parts. They had those damn Chinese made. Used a better bearing this time and will use the again on this install.


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Auggie,I trust these guys. So yes they did. It was just bad bearings. I saw the punkin install just before it was buttoned up and the pile of old parts. They had those damn Chinese made. Used a better bearing this time and will use the again on this install.
Did you wax it first?

Sorry to hear about your woes. I had the rear end bearings burn up after dealer changed the yoke seal once on my SS Camaro and man did it howl. It happens and they did make it right. Looking forward to hearing when you're all good.

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