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3 SSR's Being Auctioned Off At Mecum in Indy: May16th.

Three SSR's from the Bob McDorman Collection being auctioned off at no reserve at Mecum Indy, Thursday May 16th. All are no reserve.

1. 2006; #1 of 826 of the final production run. Blue & Silver; 4,906 miles.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0517-28...chevrolet-ssr/

2. 2006; Blue; Chrome package; 35,923 miles.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0517-28...chevrolet-ssr/

3. 2003 Signature Series; Purple; Billed as the first SSR offered to the public; 77 miles.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0517-28...nature-series/
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Wow! What 3 awesome SSR's! Am I reading it right? Are all these going to be auctioned at No Reserve? Especially the first Signature Series that was available to the public after the Boss Man got his! The 2 tone and Pac Blue look fantastic! Sure wish I was in the market for another one!


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Three SSR's from the Bob McDorman Collection being auctioned off at no reserve at Mecum Indy, Thursday May 16th. All are no reserve.

1. 2006; #1 of 826 of the final production run. Blue & Silver; 4,906 miles.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0517-28...chevrolet-ssr/

2. 2006; Blue; Chrome package; 35,923 miles.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0517-28...chevrolet-ssr/

3. 2003 Signature Series; Purple; Billed as the first SSR offered to the public; 77 miles.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0517-28...nature-series/
Wonder if you or someone close to the auction could report on the selling prices after the auction? Thanks for Posting this.


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#3 77 miles (What, WHAT!!) OMG sweet!! However,

#1 is a real beauty, with less than 5K and all that chrome!!!
...that would be my #1 pick!!

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Unless someone on the inside outbids everyone and it shows up at another Mecum auction... again.
I chatted with Mecum about that when I was asking them about all the memorabilia with Sig 2. Very insistent that they never do that, and that quite often cars are purchased by dealers on spec so they can resell them.

Somebody lost their butts on Sig 3 and Sig 5 at the McDorman auction if the intent of the exercise was to turn a profit. Took several auctions, and a lower selling price to move either truck.


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These are 3 amazing SSR's, #2 being the least amazing - sorry Blues Bros!

How they can have #1 & #2 Estimate $25 - 30k equally is ridiculous (without even considering the mileage)

The is what it is - really cool but a with Chrome and 35k miles (sorry again Blues bros! - she is really pretty!)

- need I say more!

My idea of estimates is $30k & $50K - equal value does not work for me.

Signature 2 - I leave that in Flassh's bailiwick!
I do like to see their Estimation though - $50 -75k
I hope it brings all of that and more!

The Silver/Blur would be my pick of the litter!

Mind you, I do not have a "Collector" mindset.
When I was going well I collected cars I wanted to drive, and I did.
I never collected cars to collect dust - maybe #3 is the better choice, but #1 for me.

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Mind you, I do not have a "Collector" mindset.
When I was going well I collected cars I wanted to drive, and I did.
I never collected cars to collect dust - maybe #3 is the better choice, but #2 for me.

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Hey Cash! I knew there was a good reason I have always liked you! No matter how hard you try to hide it, you're a "Blues Brother" at heart!

Sorry Kate! You are lovely and Red Hot. You just can't be "Cool Blue!"


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Sorry HUAW, I effed up - it was #1 for me, and I truly love the Pac Blues but Redline Red absolutely rules! HaHa!
See you in our other Fantasy world!

HUAW anyway!

BTW, it is far too late in the night to figure this 1,2,3 crap - HaHa!

Trying to sort it out
#1 -
#2 -
#3 -
(Sorry HUAW, but this is where my darling Kate would be in this list as well!)

I LOVE the Ricochet over Aqua Blur - she is rare - she is low mile - she is drop dead gorgeous - you will never find her again
Buy her if you can and if she goes at that silly $25-30k estimate you have absolutely stolen her!

But then, WTF do I know!
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Results Here:

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I would have thought more for the as well
At the 22 second mark of this youtube it shows it on display with one of the Signatures beside it in a showroom
As I recall there was discussion of poor condition of some of his vehicles at the 2010 auction
My first thought was maybe McDormand was good at collecting, not so good at caring for them
There are a few youtubes that give no indication of this



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The silver/blur sold for an all-in price of $41,800

The car was NOT nice by any means.

I would not have paid $25,000 for it

Several paint issues, seats looked like a 100,000 mile car

Tailgate/rear bumper damage

Moldy saddlebags

And his rough Pac Blue with 35,000 miles, which had been hit in the rear at one time brought $49,500 all in. If anyone is interested in a mint pac Blue FPR with 11,000 miles for $40k, let me know!


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It is what it is. As many have said, auctions are a roll of the dice depending on who is in attendance. The next auction the owners of these "pristine" vehicles might not have gotten half that.

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Mine was a superfast turn around buy from Cash's establishment, barely touched the floor before I bought it, I could tell as well. I have roughly $8,500 or more in mine now and although the subpar mileage of 35,800 it's been babied and cared for since it's 24,400 mile Texas origination back in March 2013 -Two owner SSR, would not sell mine for under $42,000. Of late it's a daily driver, went out in the rain a couple of weeks ago for the very first time! The top stays down whenever possible. Expected mid $40,000 by now (2017) for low mileage SSR's, but, oh,well.

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The silver/blur sold for an all-in price of $41,800

The car was NOT nice by any means.

I would not have paid $25,000 for it

Several paint issues, seats looked like a 100,000 mile car

Tailgate/rear bumper damage

Moldy saddlebags

And his rough Pac Blue with 35,000 miles, which had been hit in the rear at one time brought $49,500 all in. If anyone is interested in a mint pac Blue FPR with 11,000 miles for $40k, let me know!
I could see $25k for the PacBlue
I wasn't paying attention but just realized this one was McDorman's personal driver
The thing with it selling that high is there were other person/persons along for the same ride

As far as the Silver/Blur, no matter what, that was a very good buy.
1 of 5, 1 of 4 FPR's
I don't know what Doug (Allen) has on his but of the other 4, this is the lowest mileage one by far.

It is one of the highly collectible SSR's that stands a great chance of becoming valuable as time goes.
Throw out the damn moldy bags, change the seat covers, put in a cup holder (I think someone said it was missing that) and respray the gate.
Then would it look good?
I didn't see it but it would have to be pretty pathetic to be $25000.


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I could see $25k for the PacBlue
I wasn't paying attention but just realized this one was McDorman's personal driver
The thing with it selling that high is there were other person/persons along for the same ride

As far as the Silver/Blur, no matter what, that was a very good buy.
1 of 5, 1 of 4 FPR's
I don't know what Doug (Allen) has on his but of the other 4, this is the lowest mileage one by far.

It is one of the highly collectible SSR's that stands a great chance of becoming valuable as time goes.
Throw out the damn moldy bags, change the seat covers, put in a cup holder (I think someone said it was missing that) and respray the gate.
Then would it look good?
I didn't see it but it would have to be pretty pathetic to be $25000.
Even the most neglected car can be reconditioned, but at a cost greater than one that has been well-cared for. And it's the unknowns related to how extensive and expensive that reconditioning could be that I consider before bidding on an auction vehicle, always erring on the side of being conservative. After inspecting the McDorman Silver/Blur, it appeared to me that it had not been well-maintained despite the low mileage. Craig (farf02) has accurately described flaws that were obvious and could be symptomatic of deeper issues that could surface after a more comprehensive test drive and further operational checks. I also consider how much I would pay for a nice, low mileage vehicle similar to the one being auctioned through a private sale when setting my "all-in" price (hammer price plus buyer's premium). Obviously other bidders at this auction had their own approaches and thresholds which produced the actual sale price. The "all-in" price on this one was way beyond my threshold for that SSR. As I've noted elsewhere, I do hope that all three of the McDorman SSRs are going to good homes.
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I could see $25k for the PacBlue
I wasn't paying attention but just realized this one was McDorman's personal driver
The thing with it selling that high is there were other person/persons along for the same ride

As far as the Silver/Blur, no matter what, that was a very good buy.
1 of 5, 1 of 4 FPR's
I don't know what Doug (Allen) has on his but of the other 4, this is the lowest mileage one by far.

It is one of the highly collectible SSR's that stands a great chance of becoming valuable as time goes.
Throw out the damn moldy bags, change the seat covers, put in a cup holder (I think someone said it was missing that) and respray the gate.
Then would it look good?
I didn't see it but it would have to be pretty pathetic to be $25000.

Yes, it WAS pathetic. It would have required the better part of a complete repaint, tailgate replacement, possible rear bumper replacement, seat covers, and that was a quick inspect. Cars are original ONCE, I dont care how 'rare' the car is, a 5,000 mile car should not need a restoration.

Bidding was available online and via telephone, if it was such a great buy, you should have bought it


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I watched the tape delay of the Thursday portion of this auction which included the McDorman Collection cars. None of the SSRs were shown on TV- they all crossed the block during commercial breaks.
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Yes, it WAS pathetic. It would have required the better part of a complete repaint, tailgate replacement, possible rear bumper replacement, seat covers, and that was a quick inspect. Cars are original ONCE, I dont care how 'rare' the car is, a 5,000 mile car should not need a restoration.

Bidding was available online and telephone, if it was such a great buy, you should have bought it
You definitely have strong opinions, and sure get defensive if anyone challenges you - but I'm going to again. We haven't agreed about much of anything to do with auctions, so no sense starting now.

As far as cars being original once, I can think of multiple examples of late 60s early 70s absolute hunks of junk selling for huge money after loving restoration to new condition - mostly with components from other vehicles.

The Last 67 Stingray - not a particularly well optioned or rare car, was a rusting frame with no fiberglass panels on it, and a damaged block that needed major repair work. The only valuable thing left was the serial number on the frame, and a correct number on the damaged block.

Terry Michaelis bought the car, and after a very intense restoration project, it was heavily promoted by Barrett Jackson, and sold at auction for $600000 plus commission - and Michaelis was bummed out that it didn't reach a million. The build is well documented on Michaelis' dealership site.

One of 11 Hemi convertible Cudas was traced to Terrace, BC. By the time it was located, the buyer was excited that he actually found the frame in a collector's back forty. With a lot more work, he found the original block still in use in another car (which he bought to get the engine back), located the transmission in another vehicle, and eventually located the rear end. Pretty much everything else was either NOS or salvaged from multiple wrecks.

That car sold at auction for 1.2 million plus commission - and it's a friggin automatic, not a pistol grip.

So please - a bit of body damage, a repaint and a couple of seat skins seem pretty minor for an extremely rare vehicle. And no - I didn't buy it because I'm just not in a financial position to buy another truck. At that price, it was a decent deal, but not earth shattering. If I was in the market for another one, it would have been Sig 2.

Sad that it was in less than perfect condition, considering the low mileage, but still an extremely valuable truck.
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As far as the Silver/Blur, no matter what, that was a very good buy. 1 of 5, 1 of 4 FPR's. I don't know what Doug (Allen) has on his but of the other 4, this is the lowest mileage one by far.

It is one of the highly collectible SSR's that stands a great chance of becoming valuable as time goes.
Throw out the damn moldy bags, change the seat covers, put in a cup holder (I think someone said it was missing that) and respray the gate.
Then would it look good?
I didn't see it but it would have to be pretty pathetic to be $25000.
# 1 of 5 has about 27,000 miles on it. I believe we are the second owner, we purchased it from a dealer in New Jersey in spring of 2008.

The Mecum SSR was a great buy, if you are buying it as a collectible, and are going to sit on it for another 20-30 years. That's longer than a lot of us will be alive. These five are the most collectible production SSR's in my opinion (not including Sigs, pace trucks, etc.) due to the number produced and the color combination. It would be worth the cost to restore at the purchase price, especially with the low mileage.

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# 1 of 5 has about 27,000 miles on it. I believe we are the second owner, we purchased it from a dealer in New Jersey in spring of 2008.

The Mecum SSR was a great buy, if you are buying it as a collectible, and are going to sit on it for another 20-30 years. That's longer than a lot of us will be alive. These five are the most collectible production SSR's in my opinion (not including Sigs, pace trucks, etc.) due to the number produced and the color combination. It would be worth the cost to restore at the purchase price, especially with the low mileage.

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The 20-30 years window is probably on the low side of gaining collectibility. As I am unsure about how far beyond 100 I'll make it, I decided to modify to my tastes a fairly rare (1 of 132) fully optioned FPR 6 speed. I'll enjoy it as is for as long as possible. Unfortunately, I tossed most of the stock bits I removed, but I won't be around to stress over it.

I agonized over silver/black and silver/aqua for a couple days when I placed the factory order. If I knew then what I know now, I would probably own one of two 6 speed chrome FPR silver/aqua, and yours would be one of six instead of one of 5.. That rarity would likely have kept me from modifying it, so maybe I made the correct decision after all.


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OK, there's the restorers and a collectors points of view, which these high profile auctions seem to be mostly attended by. However most of us are neither, just looking for a good buy to drive, either daily or weekends.
Buying a motor vehicle with the goal of making a profit is a pro's game, and a folly for most people.
Buy what blows your skirt up and drive it like you stole it.

This is what most of us should buy instead of that auctions offerings.

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