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I was wondering what the emblem on the door was. "E85" was not a term I was familiar with so I googled it.
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You're thinking of Greasel... Used cooking oil used in a diesel. Apparently it works quite well as long as you keep it warm. Exhaust smells like popcorn

E85 is a blend of 85% Ethanol and 15% gasoline... Runs clean, but not quite as efficiently (less kilo-joules of energy per gram?). Sort of sad to see that truck at the wrecker... Probably a whole story to go with it too.
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You're thinking of Greasel... Used cooking oil used in a diesel. Apparently it works quite well as long as you keep it warm. Exhaust smells like popcorn

E85 is a blend of 85% Ethanol and 15% gasoline... Runs clean, but not quite as efficiently (less kilo-joules of energy per gram?). Sort of sad to see that truck at the wrecker... Probably a whole story to go with it too.
It is one of the first 69 WD1 Pilots, an area I am trying to track histories. Does anyone know anything about it?
y guess is it may have had some purpose at LCC (such as paint test mule) and possibly like#111287 that was built for one purpose only, then destined for destruction.
Anyone know who had this at the HRPT?


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This poor SSR was for sale in 4/2009 with only 463 miles on it!
It was sold at Allens Texas Motorcars in Ft Worth over a year ago and met it's demise seemingly in Baton Rouge, LA

1GCES14P43B100298
VIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-1gces14p43b100298-4.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-1gces14p43b100298-2.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-1gces14p43b100298-5.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-1gces14p43b100298-1.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-1gces14p43b100298.jpg


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More of 1GCES14P43B100298
I have no idea how they got the dash to power up! It lights up but back to 0 miles.[/FONT][/B]
VIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-1gces14p43b100298-burned-2.jpg

ADDED: August 15/2010.
They have "Detailed" #298!
Apparently it starts with a jump.
Notice they peeled the outer skin off the tonneau.

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This is a Salvage Title likely to be repaired.
$12k - 41k miles - 74auto.com | Salvage Cars | Repairable Cars | Salvage Auction

Just realized this was one I was trying to relate a picture to a VIN in Post #5, Page 1.
One site gave me 1GCES14PXB1 and the other gave me Stock #103496 and the pictures matched!

1GCES14PX4B103496

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Last bid noted on eBay 5/09 was $8700.
with 400 miles. Appeared to be flood but seller denied.

REBUILT SALVAGE TITLE - CA 7/2005

VIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-1gces14h25b115278-ebay-5-09-400-mi.-possible-flood.jpg

This SSR was rebuilt as robins egg blue and had a bit of controversy about it as well
Fuji went to see it - seems it was a bit of a mess

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OP: I've seen this one before somewhere...it appears it may have had water damage, like it was flooded out.
I wouldn't get near it...unless you just want it for parts.

Ibjeff: WOW what a mess!

Ssr71: The alternator is missing, which means the belt is missing, which means it's not currently drivable anyway.
No telling what else is missing, but definitely a decent parts vehicle.

BlueStreak: Looks to be in bad shape and only 396 miles on the odometer. Must have been on a dealer’s lot or in a collector’s garage. What a shame.
I suspect the selller is watching this thread as comments were added on 5-8 regarding missing equipment and added yesterday stating this is not a flood vehicle. This is a bit scary and I think maybe the VIN (1GCES14H25B115278) should be added to the last Ricochet SSR with a warning if that can be done without puttiing anyone in a liability situation.


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This appears to be more than a Harley owners added touches.
It seems as though it is a Harley Davidson Edition, done by HD.
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(Speaking of posting links that will expire and pictures will be lost )
Yes, I realize but capturing pictures out of this site is not in my (very limited) realm of expertise.
I have requested picture recovery assistance for this one from xoxoxoBruce which he sent me overnite.
It is new to me so about to give it a try. Fortunately he has taught me a lot about how to get the CoPart ones.
I have been able to get the latter CoPart pictures out but unfortunately not in time before some that had been sitting on the net for some months were terminally lost.


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1GCES14H76B122230

This one is right in the midst of the ones used for MY2007 upgrades testing but has 35k on it and Salvage Title, not Junk, so unsure what the story on this one is.


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While analyzing the last MY2005 VIN's I found this in GMVIS with a CA Salvage Title 6/2009.

1GCES14H65B121293

May 24, 2005 was a bad day to be a because 4 of them bit the dust.
The latter three I already had in the list.
1GCES14H65B121293
1GCES14H85B121294
1GCES14HX5B121295
1GCES14H35B121297
Not sure what was going on but they were testing something it seems.
(I covered these ins subsequent posts)


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While analyzing the last MY2005 VIN's I found this in GMVIS with a CA Salvage Title 6/2009.

1GCES14H65B121293

May 24, 2005 was a bad day to be a because 4 of them bit the dust.
The latter three I already had in the list.
1GCES14H65B121293
1GCES14H85B121294
1GCES14HX5B121295
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Not sure what was going on but they were testing something it seems.
That's downright weird, Cash.

I wonder why #296 was spared . . . or was it?

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That's downright weird, Cash.

I wonder why #296 was spared . . . or was it?
I hate to tell you this, but.........
#296 is a
So are #298, 299 & 300.
GMVIS indicates all alive and well.

Say no more, say no more. Nudge nudge!!


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I hate to tell you this, but.........
#296 is a
So are #298, 299 & 300.

Say no more, say no more. Nudge nudge!!
Does that mean GM destroyed those 's during assembly?

Kinda interesting because they are just a couple weeks after The Doophus.

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Does that mean GM destroyed those 's during assembly?

Kinda interesting because they are just a couple weeks after The Doophus.
1GCES14H05B121290 S 5/24/2005 ACRob nee C1Trob
1GCES14H25B121291 S 5/26/2005
1GCES14H45B121292 S 5/24/2005
1GCES14H65B121293 S Totalled - Salvage 5/24/2005
1GCES14H85B121294 S Totalled - Parted 5/24/2005
1GCES14HX5B121295 S Totalled - Parted 5/24/2005

1GCES14H15B121296 R 5/24/2005
1GCES14H35B121297 S JUNK MI 3/2008 5/24/2005
1GCES14H55B121298 R 5/24/2005
1GCES14H75B121299 R 5/24/2005
1GCES14HX5B121300 R 5/24/2005
1GCES14H15B121301 B 5/24/2005
1GCES14H35B121302 S 5/24/2005
1GCES14H55B121303 S 5/24/2005


As these are in the group of the last 11 MY2005's it is possible they could have been for test purposes and likely no-low miles.
It appears the LCC closed down June through Mid July until MY2006 commenced 7/22/2005.
It is possible they grabbed some of the last ones off the line to work with. The first 45 MY2006's were the Brickyards also, if that could have anything to do with this. As they were the first Two tones, maybe they decided to try splashing some black over the silver.
#'s 294 & 295 were at Schram and #297 at Spalding. A lot of what those guys received were from GM on the proviso they be parted in such a manner as not to be able to resurface in one piece.
I just found #293 and don't have a way of associating it yet. The fact that #293 has a Salvage Title in CA makes it difficult to relate to the other 3 however.
I might be able to tell by looking at service histories (to see if there were any). I will try to beg my way onto the dealership computer again one day next week.

ADD: August 14/2010
1GCES14H35B121297 is an unrelated casualty. I saw a post by BigJim from '06 WDC days referring to this police cruiser and I was able to associate it with this VIN. BigJim, being the great photographer he is, was able to provide us with these great shots. Unfortunately #21297 met with disaster, hopefully in the line of duty. (see Post #179 for further)

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Oh yeah! It was late.
Now it's early.
I thought that summer kinda flew by!
As I was typing that, in the back of my mind I couldn't recall reading of any shutdowns of that duration.


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1GCES14H56B123084
(If not already, will be a JUNK TITLE)
These are the facts as I know them
29k Miles being sold as:
1. Complete body only (including interior, no VYJ) but including chrome wheels - $11,500. (Still available 11/2010)
2. Drive train not including frame. LS2, M32 automatic & Differential - $7500.(Confirmed sold 11/2010)
**They will not part out pieces, This would be for a person that has a rolling frame.

The frame is being cut in half.
I am unsure but, the mileage and estimated Build Date of +/- 12/20/2005 notwithstanding,
this one seems to have been part of some GM Program but the guy was unable to elaborate.

2006 CHEVROLET SSR for sale from Garretson - at www.cartrucktrader.com

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Mike (BYERS) has confirmed my suspicions of this becoming a JUNK Title. Thanks Mike.
1GCES14H56B123084
Model: CS15703-2006 CHEVROLET SSR
Service Contract: Yes
Branded Title: Yes
Warranty Block: Yes
PDI Status: No
Order Type: 81 - DEALER USED CAR (CVMS USE)
Field Actions: 0 Open
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*The VIN information contained herein and information derived therefrom is the proprietary property of The Polk Company,
and is to be used only for the purpose of warranty verification and shall not be used for any other purpose whatsoever.
Brand Description: JUNK
Date Branded: 05/01/2010
Title Number: 299Y1370050 Reporting Source Code:
Reported By: MI
Effective Date: 05/28/2010



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DaveSSR found these Canadian SSR's with unconfirmed title status as the Salvage Seller has yet to release the VIN's.
I am hopeful of obtaining them next week in a subsequent conversation with Brian. He indicated he has dealt with several more previously.
Until Dave pointed these out, I had been unable to determine a means of locating the Canadian wrecks.
I just assumed it was because we were better drivers.

1GCES14P_4B1----- - Rollover

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1GCES14P_4B1-----

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1GCES14P_4B1---- - Stolen Recovery

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1GCES14HX5B119093
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38.5 k miles.

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Looks like pretty much a full load 2 Tone 6sp!
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post #174 of 1345 (permalink) Old 07-29-2010, 01:55 PM Thread Starter
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Had this VIN as a CoPart auction for some time but now for sale at Sam's Riverside, Des Moines IA.
It has an IA Salvage Title.

1GCES14P84B108809

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This one has no real visible signs of damage and is definitely repairable, nevertheless, it is a salvage title to be noted.
It is currently at auction on CoPart, listed as "Repairable Salvage Title" TX - Minor dents & Scratches (56k mi)


1GCES14HX5B120194


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Edit 2/2011: In reviewing old notes I had this SSR at one time as being a Flood victim.
Polk has this listed as a JUNK Title TX 5/2010.
CoPart auction listed it as minor dents and scratches?


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A note from Delma Lou with a site lead (thank you very much) prompted me to revisit CoPart.
This must have been listed this morning as I view CoPart almost daily and am pretty sure I looked last night.
Currently at auction, TX Salvage Title - 28k mi.

1GCES14P54B108878

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1GCES14P73B103163
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I'm always curious about the engine fires, if there is a problem in common perhaps.


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1GCES14H35B121297
VIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-police-1.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-police-2.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-police-8.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-police-9.jpgVIN's OF SSR's DECEASED-police-3.jpg

I first received confirmation of this VIN from Spalding Auto Salvage in 7/2009.
Paceguy has since confirmed it has a JUNK TITLE MI 3/2008. It is only now I have been able to relate the VIN to an SSR.
I read a note made by BigJim who had seen this at the '06 WDC. When I received confirmation from Jim I had the correct relationship it was really wishful thinking he might have a picture but was pleasantly surprised when he was able to provide these great shots. But why should I be surprised with such a photographer extraordinaire!
Somewhere along the way this police personnel met an untimely fate, hopefully during the course of duty above and beyond. Thanks BigJim
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1GCES14H15B116115

Whoosh! This one took a big time hit!
I have record of it being in Lenexa, KS but no owner identified.
AIAA Detroit-Wait Certificate - 40k miles


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I first received confirmation of this VIN from Spalding Auto Salvage in 7/2009.
Paceguy has since confirmed it has a JUNK TITLE MI 3/2008. It is only now I have been able to relate the VIN to an SSR.
I read a note made by BigJim who had seen this at the '06 WDC. When I received confirmation from Jim I had the correct relationship it was really wishful thinking he might have a picture but was pleasantly surprised when he was able to provide these great shots. But why should I be surprised with such a photographer extraordinaire!
Somewhere along the way this police personnel met an untimely fate, hopefully during the course of duty above and beyond. Thanks BigJim
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This same vehicle was at Woodward in 2004. It was there at the Coney Island display with all the other SSR's. The way I understood at the time GM had given the vehicle for the police to use. Maybe after it was used GM trashed it.


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