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Dick doesn't Ed Borlan @ED in FL orida make a jumper to correct the bad wire? I remember him doing my fuse box at the Jacksonville rally. He sells the jumper with instructions for a quick permanent fix.

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Dick doesn't Ed Borlan @ED in FL orida make a jumper to correct the bad wire? I remember him doing my fuse box at the Jacksonville rally. He sells the jumper with instructions for a quick permanent fix.

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Dick doesn't Ed Borlan @ED in FL orida make a jumper to correct the bad wire? I remember him doing my fuse box at the Jacksonville rally. He sells the jumper with instructions for a quick permanent fix.

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I have one of those setups. It is for use to get home and not for full time use as it bypasses some fuses and relays. That is made clear by ED in the instructions that come with it.


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I have one of those setups. It is for use to get home and not for full time use as it bypasses some fuses and relays. That is made clear by ED in the instructions that come with it.
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Agree.

There is a "temporary jumper wire fix" and a "permanent fix" that Ed performs when you send him your fusebox.

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I have to disagree with BlueStreak & Warrior=='06. When Ed did my fuse box at the Jacksonville Rally he drilled a hole in the fuse box and insert a wire. He told me it was a permanent fix. I have an 05 and was worried about the issue. Hopefully Ed will see these post and be able to enlighten us all.

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★★★ The permanent repair is especially of interest to all '05 and '06 owners.


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I have one of those setups. It is for use to get home and not for full time use as it bypasses some fuses and relays. That is made clear by ED in the instructions that come with it.
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I have to disagree with BlueStreak & Warrior=='06. When Ed did my fuse box at the Jacksonville Rally he drilled a hole in the fuse box and insert a wire. He told me it was a permanent fix. I have an 05 and was worried about the issue. Hopefully Ed will see these post and be able to enlighten us all.

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I think Warrior and I are referring to the Temp fix highlighted above and Maybe I misunderstood the initial request. I do not believe that Ed was suggesting others tackle the drilling that he is doing as a permanent fix.If I am wrong then I must say I am sorry for the misunderstanding.


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I have to disagree with BlueStreak & Warrior=='06. When Ed did my fuse box at the Jacksonville Rally he drilled a hole in the fuse box and insert a wire. He told me it was a permanent fix. I have an 05 and was worried about the issue. Hopefully Ed will see these post and be able to enlighten us all.

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Yes, Ed did the permanent fix for you as he had your fusebox right there---you were both in Jax. I live a good 1,000 miles away and must remove my fusebox from my truck & send it to him if I want the same permanent fix.

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I believe he sells the permanent fix which comes with a template that fits over the fuse box so you know where to drill the small hole. It comes with the wire that gets inserted and directions. I suggest you contact @ED in FL . I would pm him at Ed in FL

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This is not a permanent fix. It is intended as means of getting an 05 or 06 "R" with a Underhood Fuse Box issue to run in order to get the "R" home or to a shop for a permanent fix. Due to a lack of interest, I have stopped making the temporary jumper.

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My permanent fix involves making an opening in the fuse box to access a terminal (the opening is made with a battery powered soldering iron - not by drilling) a wired connector is inserted into the now exposed terminal and the wire connects to the 42 relay. This permanently bypasses the fuse box wire that can open circuit and shut the engine down.
This is not a DIY fix. I can do this fix with the fuse box in place or you can remove the fuse box and ship it to me.
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Ed, just curious, I assume this is different from, and preferred to, removing and rerouting the original wire?

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Ed, just curious, I assume this is different from, and preferred to, removing and rerouting the original wire?

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Art Bonadies deserves all of the credit for researching, testing and finding the wire issue.

Art, Dicktator and Dragon2u all prefer to disassemble the fuse box, remove the wire and replace it with a new wire with slightly different routing. This is a very good fix with no visible sign the work done.

My process is easier, faster and 100% effective.
With my process, when you remove the fuse box covers, you will see the electrical connector and the wire going to the 42 relay.
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Looking for someone in Las Vegas nv to help me to fix the wire that breaks . I don't trust it as i have one broken before . There is a lot open spaces in Nevada .
I can help you if you still need it. Just let me know. I live in Henderson Nevada.

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Thanks I Will let you know when i can do it . Soon i hope . Where can we do it? I live at Rancho and Lone Mountain ? Let me know did you do yours. Thanks Chuck Styles.
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Thanks I Will let you know when i can do it . Soon i hope . Where can we do it? I live at Rancho and Lone Mountain ? Let me know did you do yours. Thanks Chuck Styles.
Hi Chuck, I'm in Henderson. I was thinking we could remove the fuse block and send it to Ed for the repair and then when it gets back install it.

I have an old 04 so it has not been a problem on them, at least so far.

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And as Ed said the credit goes to Art Bonadies aka abonadies and Marty aka Marty, THEY found the "cracked" wire NOT GM.

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It's really not hard to do at all, I can walk you through it or watch you via video on phone or laptop if you have issues. I would just replace the wire internally, more of a factory style repair and then you don't have a cracked wire inside the fuse box. Just takes a few minutes to do the work with simple hand tools.

GM has same issues Trailblazers and Corvettes, all have the same exact problem although different affected systems, and it has been discussed for many years on many different forums. Kudos to the boys that found it for the R, but in GMs defense, the problem did not occur until many years after production.

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And as Ed said the credit goes to Art Bonadies aka abonadies and Marty aka Marty, THEY found the "cracked" wire NOT GM.

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Guys what are the specs for the replacement wire and where do you get good wire?
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I use .032 or 20 gauge copper wire which is identical to the OEM. I buy it at Hobby Lobby but sure you can get it at other places as well.

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I use .032 or 20 gauge copper wire which is identical to the OEM. I buy it at Hobby Lobby but sure you can get it at other places as well.
KGB who owns the R I'm about to buy, has related to me that he has had no such problem with it and thus (all is stock) relative to the fuse box.

If in fact, I begin a 2300 mile journey back home from his place, and all of a sudden, nothing works and it just may indeed be this problem, I'm very interested in the "quick" fix and/or temporary (getaround).

I'll address the permanent fix once I get home, but would like some direction on the quick fix (via a jumper wire or whatever) just in case this "glitch" were to come up for me.
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KGB who owns the R I'm about to buy, has related to me that he has had no such problem with it and thus (all is stock) relative to the fuse box.

If in fact, I begin a 2300 mile journey back home from his place, and all of a sudden, nothing works and it just may indeed be this problem, I'm very interested in the "quick" fix and/or temporary (getaround).

I'll address the permanent fix once I get home, but would like some direction on the quick fix (via a jumper wire or whatever) just in case this "glitch" were to come up for me.
Sounds like you are a little apprehensive getting something you have never driven before in areas where you have never been and don't know anyone, it's understandable. The fuse problem does not affect all of the trucks, but you never know which one has the problem until it arises.

You could ask someone to borrow a pre made fuse bypass kit just for the trip and return it when you are home. Then you can have the fuse box repaired when you get time.

Or you could make your own bypass for about $10.
1. Get 2 of these from EBay or your local parts house - https://www.ebay.com/itm/182118021873
2. Splice them together, and purchase two 15 amp mini fuses and put them into the top of the jumpers.
2. Do not install the bypass until you have a problem, it is NOT for daily driving. When you do have the issue, open the under hood fuse box. Remove relay 42. You are now going to jump fuse 23 to 35 with the jumper. Take fuse 23 out and install it to the bottom of one jumper side, take fuse 35 off and install it in the bottom of the other jumper then install the jumper connectors in the 2 fuse areas you just removed from.

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Sounds like you are a little apprehensive getting something you have never driven before in areas where you have never been and don't know anyone, it's understandable. The fuse problem does not affect all of the trucks, but you never know which one has the problem until it arises.

You could ask someone to borrow a pre made fuse bypass kit just for the trip and return it when you are home. Then you can have the fuse box repaired when you get time.

Or you could make your own bypass for about $10.
1. Get 2 of these from EBay or your local parts house - https://www.ebay.com/itm/182118021873
2. Splice them together, and purchase two 15 amp mini fuses and put them into the top of the jumpers.
2. Do not install the bypass until you have a problem, it is NOT for daily driving. When you do have the issue, open the under hood fuse box. Remove relay 42. You are now going to jump fuse 23 to 35 with the jumper. Take fuse 23 out and install it to the bottom of one jumper side, take fuse 35 off and install it in the bottom of the other jumper then install the jumper connectors in the 2 fuse areas you just removed from.


OK, I'm thinkin' I kinda got the picture. Those EBAY jumper deals seem to have a mini fuse stacked on top of a regular sized fuse???? Is that correct?

So I get the two 15 amp minis, they go in the top of said jumpers, and u then R&R the #23 and #35 fuses by putting one in the bottom of one side of jumper and the other in bottom of other side of jumper and then re-plug them back into respective slots.

Plus you indicate need for removal of relay 42...........have I got it all right?

Thanks a bunch for the guidance on how to prepare the temporary fix "kit".
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KGB who owns the R I'm about to buy, has related to me that he has had no such problem with it and thus (all is stock) relative to the fuse box.

If in fact, I begin a 2300 mile journey back home from his place, and all of a sudden, nothing works and it just may indeed be this problem, I'm very interested in the "quick" fix and/or temporary (getaround).

I'll address the permanent fix once I get home, but would like some direction on the quick fix (via a jumper wire or whatever) just in case this "glitch" were to come up for me.
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Iíll be in Vegas in a couple of weeks for SEMA, if your not planning on getting it before then I have a couple extra that I carry around with me and I can get one to KGB for you to put in the truck.

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Iíve got a spare fuse box that Dragon2U did the permanent fix on I could bring down when I come to SEMA.

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Iíll be in Vegas in a couple of weeks for SEMA, if your not planning on getting it before then I have a couple extra that I carry around with me and I can get one to KGB for you to put in the truck.

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Rope,

That would be great, but I'm not clear on the dates for SEMA. I've got some serious surgery to go thru this Friday. Hoping that all goes well, and no lingering problems.....I would like to make some plans to get out there to Vegas sometime in early part of November. No set date yet.

If the timing works out, and you're there before me..........Get KGB to pay you for the cost of the jumper and then I'll reimburse him.........Really appreciate it.
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