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Need help with ABS module parts

Someone sent their ABS module to someone for repair and when it came back it was in worse shape than when it left. They sent it to me and it was a total disaster inside. Bent pins, cold globs of solder, poor case sealing, isolated the heat sinks.....

The worst part is that I had to totally dissemble some components to access the underside of the board and it is evident that when the repair person took the cover off they crammed a screwdriver into the side of the case and destroyed a component on the mother board (see image below). It is so bad that I cannot get any number or other information off of it. I have tried and will continue to try and find information on this component to replace it but ......

Does anyone have access to a EBCM (electronic brake control module) internal schematic or possibly an old EBCM laying around that is scrap that I can steal this part off of to repair this board? Hate to trash this for one $5 component that someone goofed up.

This is not a common failure item so sending it to a "repair shop" is not a good alternative as I doubt they have schematics either and no components laying around for repair of this problem.

Any help or leads appreciated
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Looking at the picture in Dicktater's how-to it shows the top side and doesn't seem to have any markings on that piece. The original picture is so small I wouldn't be able to blow it up and read it but should be able to tell if there's writing there.

If the Sun come out for more than 3 minutes I can take mine apart and look.

I'm curious why your picture is labeled "ssr brake"
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Looking at the picture in Dicktater's how-to it shows the top side and doesn't seem to have any markings on that piece. The original picture is so small I wouldn't be able to blow it up and read it but should be able to tell if there's writing there.

If the Sun come out for more than 3 minutes I can take mine apart and look.

I'm curious why your picture is labeled "ssr brake"
Ahhhhhhh, you are referring to the RDM, I am referring to the ABS. Thus, I use "brake" in the label for my picture

The area I took the picture of is not easily accessed like during the normal resolder repair, I had to desolder many parts, take off the board and flip it to show this area.

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Wow! Never usually see that side of the board Mike! You may need to get your hands on another module to do the forensics!
I wonder if the person that repaired that was the same one that butchered my gauge Pod!
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Wow! Never usually see that side of the board Mike! You may need to get your hands on another module to do the forensics!
I wonder if the person that repaired that was the same one that butchered my gauge Pod!
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Yeah, I am hoping someone needs an ABS repaired soon so I can get a part number and save it. Owner is still driving his so I cannot wait too long

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What year is the beat-up unit out of?

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What year is the beat-up unit out of?

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It's a 03-04 but I am sure the small components are the same for all years. I've looked at boards from non traction control (S10) and they do not have that component. A water or wreck damaged unit would be perfect for parts, or even a picture would help.

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It's a 03-04 but I am sure the small components are the same for all years. I've looked at boards from non traction control (S10) and they do not have that component. A water or wreck damaged unit would be perfect for parts, or even a picture would help.
I have a used 03-04 with an unknown history. I’d be happy to loan it to you for “inspection”....... Maybe you can glean the part number off the component. If that sounds good to you, send me your “ship to” address and I’ll get in the mail on Tuesday.

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I would contact Dicktator. I know he repairs them. He might have parts or a reconditioned module; if not, he'll give you the guidance you need. After you finalize your repair, protect it with one of Mike's heat shields.

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I have a used 03-04 with an unknown history. I’d be happy to loan it to you for “inspection”....... Maybe you can glean the part number off the component. If that sounds good to you, send me your “ship to” address and I’ll get in the mail on Tuesday.

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Thanks Mike, a loaner would be perfect!

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I would contact Dicktator. I know he repairs them. He might have parts or a reconditioned module; if not, he'll give you the guidance you need. After you finalize your repair, protect it with one of Mike's heat shields.

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Thanks, but I was repairing these before Dick and I know his process, he does not take them apart this far and I rarely do either. Normally. there is no need to take them apart to board level unless you can bench test or visually see an issue and determine the exact fault. Neither of us has a tester but I can see a lot of damage from the previous attempt at repair.

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I have a 05, 06 that needs repair if that will help any
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I am going to borrow Mikes since it is an 03 but if you want to send it in for repair feel free. I can also compare boards and see if there really is a difference. Do you know what codes it is tossing out or just the normal light on dash? If you are getting a particular message I can replace some board parts that might be the issue or just resolder which corrects most of the issues.

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Never seen one that far apart! Not sure what they knew what they were doing but that is not how I/we repair.

Look at my SSR HOW TO LIBRARY: ABS Brake

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I have never tried or removed PC Board, I do test to see if relay is working, if it isn't I suggest sending to:

Link: https://www.myairbags.com/product-ca...SSR&_year=2004

They have parts, test equipment and refurbish capabilities for beyond what I can do.

SSR ABS is Kelsey Hayes 325 which was used on Ford Pickup, Isuzu and SSR.

03/04 is different form 05/06, ABS light will stay on unless EBCM is proper year.

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I am going to borrow Mikes since it is an 03 but if you want to send it in for repair feel free. I can also compare boards and see if there really is a difference. Do you know what codes it is tossing out or just the normal light on dash? If you are getting a particular message I can replace some board parts that might be the issue or just resolder which corrects most of the issues.

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Never seen one that far apart! Not sure what they knew what they were doing but that is not how I repair.
I spent 20 years in the military doing high precision micro miniature solder repairs on aircraft that flew mach 3 and altitudes of 85k and above. I held quite a few certifications and lots of schooling, I still repair phones and other end items to the board level when I can. Sorry to say, I've seen some real "hatchet jobs" from the "pros" as well but thankfully it doesn't happen often.

While I do not have all the specialty equipment to test the ABS as a whole I do have basic equipment that can do a fair amount of testing. I have access to a few components for replacement so no worries taking to the board level for me. I've saved quite a few boo boo repairs others have attempted and failed at, I enjoy the challenge. Can't guarantee repairs but I try my best to save what I can.

This is a very sad case that doesn't happen often but I hope to be able to rectify for the owner.....

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Ahhhhhhh, you are referring to the RDM, I am referring to the ABS. Thus, I use "brake" in the label for my picture

The area I took the picture of is not easily accessed like during the normal resolder repair, I had to desolder many parts, take off the board and flip it to show this area.
You're right, somehow I got RDM stuck in my brain from an earlier thread, and even when I saw the brake label it went right over my head. Just think I have a drivers license and a carry permit, scary ain't it.

Years back we were having a "discussion" on the board and Topspin said his good friend worked at KH on this system. Maybe he could beg some information from the guy. Maybe even a schematic, or a patent number to find the patent drawings.
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