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Well it didn't just start,it's been leaking for awhile. My question is one seal kit better than the other? Should I have them replace the cover also.What about oil pan gasket? Lots of questions ,I know. I'm not doing the work. I do have a pretty good mechanic lined up for the job.I'm going to talk to him tomorrow to get a idea how much it's going to cost.Thanks guys.


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Yes it did slow down some when I drove it every day. Now with all the ice and salt on the roads I won't be driving it anywhere for awhile. I just want it to stop dripping. It leaks enough that it actually puts spots on the back of the truck going down the road.


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I think because it's a one piece seal the pan must come down so a new gasket would probably be a good move.

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The rear seal is sold as a kit pre installed in the cover and most dealers/shops will use that kit to save labor time.
The whole kit with cover seal and Gasket is about $80 - $100. Make sure you confirm they use a seal install alignment tool to center the cover and not eyeball it or you could end up with a leak all over again. I have seen these seals installed leak worse than the old ones because the cover was not perfectly centered on the crank. The dealer will do this but some independent shops may not so, need to confirm it.
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I think because it's a one piece seal the pan must come down so a new gasket would probably be a good move.
Bruce, on the LS engine you can change out the rear seal without having to drop the oil pan. I have done several and have not dropped the oil pan on any of them. When we had the gen 1 and 2 small blocks up till 86, you had to drop the oil pan as the rear main oil seal was part of the rear main bearing cap.
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The rear seal is sold as a kit pre installed in the cover and most dealers/shops will use that kit to save labor time.
The whole kit with cover seal and Gasket is about $80 - $100.Greg
Do go with the rear plate kit, as there have been several updates to the rear plate to stop oil leaks. I think GM is on the 5th or 6th revision of the rear plate now.
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Well it didn't just start,it's been leaking for awhile. My question is one seal kit better than the other? Should I have them replace the cover also.What about oil pan gasket? Lots of questions ,I know. I'm not doing the work. I do have a pretty good mechanic lined up for the job.I'm going to talk to him tomorrow to get a idea how much it's going to cost.Thanks guys.
Might want to talk to Dictator in Florida as he just had his done and they took his trans out and rebuilt that at the same time. He would know exactly what was needed and a ballpark on costs. Never hurts to have more information going in. The old school thought on the leak when I had a garage was oil is cheap so don't fix it and just top it off once in awhile because a lot of times it ends up leaking worse. 5 or 6 drops on the concrete looks like a lot but it is only 5 or 6 drops. Put a catch pan under it until you decide and go from there.


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Auggie I have a piece of cardboard under it now. I know it's not a lot,but it ain't supposed to leak. I hate leaks.
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Might want to talk to Dictator in Florida as he just had his done and they took his trans out and rebuilt that at the same time. He would know exactly what was needed and a ballpark on costs. Never hurts to have more information going in. The old school thought on the leak when I had a garage was oil is cheap so don't fix it and just top it off once in awhile because a lot of times it ends up leaking worse. 5 or 6 drops on the concrete looks like a lot but it is only 5 or 6 drops. Put a catch pan under it until you decide and go from there.
Yeah mine has that every spring, I drive it a bit, no more drops ... it’s my drive it incentive!!
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Well it didn't just start,it's been leaking for awhile. My question is one seal kit better than the other? Should I have them replace the cover also.What about oil pan gasket? Lots of questions ,I know. I'm not doing the work. I do have a pretty good mechanic lined up for the job.I'm going to talk to him tomorrow to get a idea how much it's going to cost.Thanks guys.
When I bought my 04 R with 126K in Oct. of 2018, I set out to deal with basic servicing of the vehicle. I thought I had an oil pan leak which I was going to have my mechanic replace the gasket the same day that he was going to service the transmission. As he dropped the transmission, he feared that this engine was prone to rear main seal leak and strongly suggested while they were there, that it would be a good idea to replace the rear main cover with seal, which I did. Upon replacement, they confirmed that the seal had been leaking. The rear main kit was $89. & the trans kit was $41. I also replaced the oil pan gasket. Now I'm onto other R issues.

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Mine leaked from new. GM tech said rear main seal needed to be replaced. I decided to let it leak rather than have to pull the transmission and put cardboard underneath it in the garage. Decided to pretend it was my old Harley. Removing the entire center console to be able to remove the linkage and drop the transmission seemed too intrusive.

When I put in the C6 oil pan a couple years ago, magically the leak was completely gone. Possible you have a oil pan leak if the original GM factory tech didn't fully fully cover one of the four corner spots with sealant at the time. Easy replacement, but it would be disappointing if it didn't solve the problem. It would also be a good outcome if it solved the problem without needing a teardown.
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Had rear seal leak corrected when transmission was replaced last month. SSR had been leaking since I bought it in Nov 2015, but it was only one drop at a time so I let it go this long. Dealership did the work and also replaced the oil pan gasket at same time. Cost was about $500, but would have been much more if tranny work had not been done since the bulk of the labor time went to the transmission remove-and-replace.
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Had rear seal leak corrected when transmission was replaced last month. SSR had been leaking since I bought it in Nov 2015, but it was only one drop at a time so I let it go this long. Dealership did the work and also replaced the oil pan gasket at same time. Cost was about $500, but would have been much more if tranny work had not been done since the bulk of the labor time went to the transmission remove-and-replace.
No more oil drips defacing my driveway pavers!
The local Chevrolet dealership just quoted me $1635.00 out the door for the rear seal replacement work. I really don't see any large oil stains on the cardboard underneath the R, only a drop or two hanging off the bell housing so I'll probably hold off for while anyway.

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My '05 also leaked from day it moved into my garage. Not a lot, but enough to be irritating (my '04 did not leak a drop). When I did the C6 pan conversion the leak magically disappeared. I made sure to put extra sealer at the 4 corners of the block.

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Well goes in next Monday. My mechanic quoted 8 hrs for the job. Seem about right to me. A lot to take off and put back on. Going to get oil changed and the front frame stiffener put on. $900 and I bought the rear main plate and seal. $61 for the kit.
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The local Chevrolet dealership just quoted me $1635.00 out the door for the rear seal replacement work. I really don't see any large oil stains on the cardboard underneath the R, only a drop or two hanging off the bell housing so I'll probably hold off for while anyway.

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That's the same figure I was given when I had my SSR in the shop last summer for a TCM replacement! $1600 for the rear seal AND an additional $600 for the tranny pan gasket. YIKES! .... I deferred.

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That's the same figure I was given when I had my SSR in the shop last summer for a TCM replacement! $1600 for the rear seal AND an additional $600 for the tranny pan gasket. YIKES! .... I deferred.
To much! You got to find a more reasonable shop. At my shop visit, I supplied the oil , pan gasket & coolant recovery tank. They supplied the rear main kit, trans. filter, gasket & coolant. My total bill was 929.16. " It's not what we make in gross dollars, it's what we keep in our pocket that counts"

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To much! You got to find a more reasonable shop. At my shop visit, I supplied the oil , pan gasket & coolant recovery tank. They supplied the rear main kit, trans. filter, gasket & coolant. My total bill was 929.16. " It's not what we make in gross dollars, it's what we keep in our pocket that counts"

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I previously had called an independent shop that did some work for me 4-5 years ago and he quoted me $1350.00 including dropping the oil pan and replacing the filter. I'm now having second thoughts about using him since I've been enlightened on here that there's no need to drop the oil pan.

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I previously had called an independent shop that did some work for me 4-5 years ago and he quoted me $1350.00 including dropping the oil pan and replacing the filter. I'm now having second thoughts about using him since I've been enlightened on here that there's no need to drop the oil pan.

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I have seen some videos and they recommend dropping the pan so you can align the rear seal cover plate easier. If the pan is not dropped or at least loosened it can put the rear cover in a bind and cause the rear seal to leak. If I understand it right, the pan fits up to seal across the bottom of the rear seal cover and there are 2 bolts going up from the pan into the cover plate that holds the rear seal.
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When I bought one of my SSR's the rear main seal was leaking. It was not mentioned before the sale. Believe it or not, I bought a 8 oz can of BlueDevil REAR MAIN SEALER and, not sure how long (2 or 6 months) but the the drip stopped! It has not returned in 2 years. I drive this one 6 1/2 months a year. Cheap fix? It worked for me!
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When I bought one of my SSR's the rear main seal was leaking. It was not mentioned before the sale. Believe it or not, I bought a 8 oz can of BlueDevil REAR MAIN SEALER and, not sure how long (2 or 6 months) but the the drip stopped! It has not returned in 2 years. I drive this one 6 1/2 months a year. Cheap fix? It worked for me!
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Well I tried it too. Slowed it down, but didn't stop it completely. Mines not leaking a lot, but I don't like my vehicles dripping in the garage or on someone's driveway.
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Well I tried it too. Slowed it down, but didn't stop it completely. Mines not leaking a lot, but I don't like my vehicles dripping in the garage or on someone's driveway.


It seems that these products can sometimes produce a "temporary" fix and for others maybe a longer fix. But, long term........not so much.

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It seems that these products can sometimes produce a "temporary" fix and for others maybe a longer fix. But, long term........not so much.

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I used Blue Devil for a while, helped but finally bit the bullet and had seal replaced.

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