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I had the local Safelite bring in a FUYAO windshield so we could compare it to my OEM in the SSR. It appears that the FUYAO is as flat as the PILKINGTON is! This is holding the straight edge flat against the bottom of the windshields.

1) FUYAO

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Several years I had the windshield replaced in an '06 Pontiac Vibe after it had acquired 4 stone chips. (I was getting ready to sell the vehicle).

I hadn't noticed the shape of the windshield at first but what I did realize was that the vehicle had a wind noise at higher speeds that it had never had before the replacement.

I've had a tiny, barely noticable stone chip in my SSR windshield that I got when returning home from the TX rally in '09 and I'm going to leave "well-enough alone" unless it someday starts to crack.
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Several years I had the windshield replaced in an '06 Pontiac Vibe after it had acquired 4 stone chips. (I was getting ready to sell the vehicle).

I hadn't noticed the shape of the windshield at first but what I did realize was that the vehicle had a wind noise at higher speeds that it had never had before the replacement.

I've had a tiny, barely noticable stone chip in my SSR windshield that I got when returning home from the TX rally in '09 and I'm going to leave "well-enough alone" unless it someday starts to crack.
I had the same thing on my '03. I had a professional fix it for $40.00 before it cracked. If it starts to crack, it's to late to save. My O.E.M. is still looking good.
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Bummer! Mine got a bad crack on the Ogden trip and I was looking forward to an easy install of an OEM copy.
It would be interesting to see the two aftermarket windshields compared to see if the Fuyao mates up better to the window frame.
FYI... While in Ogden, I did stop by Safelite and they gave me the product order info:
Fuyao (FYG) #DW01534 GBY

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Has anyone experience with the quality of a PPG windshield?
They usually produce a quality piece. I found troubles locating
one for a PRE 1985 Chevy Van G-20 glass that is rubber installed not urethane
(difference in size)
They were the only company that could come up with it. Price was
in line with Pilkington.
Our R came to us 6 months ago with a Pilkington glass in it. Fits well, looks fine to me. Just sayin.
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I had the local Safelite bring in a FUYAO windshield so we could compare it to my OEM in the SSR. It appears that the FUYAO is as flat as the PILKINGTON is! This is holding the straight edge flat against the bottom of the windshields.

1) FUYAO

2) Straight edge on FUYAO

3) Straight edge on OEM
The curve is at least a little bit outward, same as the PPG version. Most of discussion of the window curve started with bdmridgeback in this thread https://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f5/...parison-61177/ where he has a flat edge and the Pilkington windshield that was actually super flat or maybe a little inward!!! While I do agree it would be nice to have an OEM window, I think the smaller curvature would be "okay", but I would be concerned abut one that went inward! I wished I had saved his pictures, they were quite dramatic and showed just how poor the curvature was. The owner of the bad window had a bad one out of the batch as I know others have had Pilkington installed and they had the smaller outward curve and not inward. Bottom line is, always inspect the windshield you install on any car BEFORE installation.

On a side note, I called on a local company to fill a chip in the glass of the car I drove out to CA in a few days ago and they quoted $70. I had just replaced the OEM windshield with a new Pilkington for $270 just days prior on the way out to CA, yeah, not a good trip..... Anyway, I purchased a BlueStar do it yourself kit for $8. The kit worked flawlessly and is exactly the same, if not better, than my previous experience with windshield repair companies. Not that all dings are good candidates for a DIY, I just wanted to share that it might be a good alternative for some people. I do agree, have it repaired before it spreads and you are too late!!!!



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Has anyone experience with the quality of a PPG windshield?
They usually produce a quality piece. I found troubles locating
one for a PRE 1985 Chevy Van G-20 glass that is rubber installed not urethane
(difference in size)
They were the only company that could come up with it. Price was
in line with Pilkington.
Our R came to us 6 months ago with a Pilkington glass in it. Fits well, looks fine to me. Just sayin.
on other vehicles with PPG windshields, I have had good luck with them and even have removed used ones and put them into another truck with no issues. The way GM did the old rubber seals was easy to remove and replace even if there was rust or a small gap in the window frame the rubber took care of the difference. I had a friend who was really good with them and he helped me on a several in Chevy trucks before. Never had any leaks with that style installation either.
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So dumb question... do the replacement windshields (Pilkington, FUYAO, etc.) fit anything else or did they all just get their molds wrong?

Seems like if they only fit SSRs it would be a no-brainer to make an exact replacement. Curious if anyone's had contact with either company asking about their less-than-perfect product.

In Garris1's thread I mentioned that ours has a small chip that's in the driver's line of sight. It's been professionally repaired, but it's still apparent and a bit annoying. Between that and a few other small chips and a bit of sand blasting I'd like to replace our 14 year old windshield, but I'm super hesitant based on these kinds of stories.

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To add to our problem the insurance company is kind of in the drivers seat on this. They sometimes only pay so much and usually tell you where to take it. There was a big discussion about this about 6 months ago and I thought someone in or near Florida figured out which one to get with numbers etc. Might check with Dictator. Good luck.


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So dumb question... do the replacement windshields (Pilkington, FUYAO, etc.) fit anything else or did they all just get their molds wrong?

Seems like if they only fit SSRs it would be a no-brainer to make an exact replacement. Curious if anyone's had contact with either company asking about their less-than-perfect product.

In Garris1's thread I mentioned that ours has a small chip that's in the driver's line of sight. It's been professionally repaired, but it's still apparent and a bit annoying. Between that and a few other small chips and a bit of sand blasting I'd like to replace our 14 year old windshield, but I'm super hesitant based on these kinds of stories.
I know that both Mike in AZ and I have had a discussion with Pilkington while at SEMA the last three years to no avail. They are located in the Phoenix area and Mike has been trying to work with them however they donít seem to want to communicate with him.
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Used the search button on top of this page and found a lengthy discussion on different windshields and different companies dated June 2016. Folks involved were
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Might try to send them a Private Message and see how they finally resolved the issue. Happy hunting.
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To add to our problem the insurance company is kind of in the drivers seat on this. They sometimes only pay so much and usually tell you where to take it. There was a big discussion about this about 6 months ago and I thought someone in or near Florida figured out which one to get with numbers etc. Might check with Dictator. Good luck.
Well, that's aggravating. I don't know if it's a state-to-state thing, but here insurance companies are legally prohibited from telling people where to have their cars repaired.

We have full glass coverage so no deductible, but even with that I'm not ready to try replacing our windshield until I have to.

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I know that both Mike in AZ and I have had a discussion with Pilkington while at SEMA the last three years to no avail. They are located in the Phoenix area and Mike has been trying to work with them however they donít seem to want to communicate with him.
Good to know, although it's probably such a low volume, low priority part they have little incentive to go back to the drawing board.

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The Caddy has a fairly flat windshield, so it looks OK. After reading this, I think I'll get the car wet and see how well the wipers sweep across.

Sure am glad I bought an original with the SSR logo about 10 years ago. The current windshield has a few minor blemishes on it, but sure as heck, if I replace it, I'll break the new one within a week.

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Good to know, although it's probably such a low volume, low priority part they have little incentive to go back to the drawing board.
Obviously they were not listening when Mike tried, an assumption on my part, to tell them how many of us are sitting out here with chipped windshields, waiting for them to get it right so we can flood them with orders.


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Sure am glad I bought an original with the SSR logo about 10 years ago. The current windshield has a few minor blemishes on it, but sure as heck, if I replace it, I'll break the new one within a week.
Bingo, I'm in the same situation. I've had one chip repaired and quite a bit of high speed sandblasting, but I'm sure if I install(have installed) my NOS windshield it get broken in no time.

Then again, I read about a guy that paid tens of thousands of dollars for a NOS Ferrari windshield and no installer would touch it saying glass gets brittle over time.

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I have a lightly scratched '05 OEM windshield for sale.

I haven't actually seen it as it goes with the '05 that I just bought and will pick up next week.

The downside is that's in Florida.

https://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f22...r-code-250725/

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on other vehicles with PPG windshields, I have had good luck with them and even have removed used ones and put them into another truck with no issues. The way GM did the old rubber seals was easy to remove and replace even if there was rust or a small gap in the window frame the rubber took care of the difference. I had a friend who was really good with them and he helped me on a several in Chevy trucks before. Never had any leaks with that style installation either.
PPG spun off the auto glass business and its now PWG.
PWG does not have SSR replacement glass.
Pilkington no longer makes SSR glass and FUYAO is now the only source and according to our local Safelight they have to search the US to find them they are scarce. I have an appointment for next Tues to get mine replaced, if they can find one. Pretty soon our only option will be used glass.
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PPG spun off the auto glass business and its now PWG.
PWG does not have SSR replacement glass.
Pilkington no longer makes SSR glass and FUYAO is now the only source and according to our local Safelight they have to search the US to find them they are scarce. I have an appointment for next Tues to get mine replaced, if they can find one. Pretty soon our only option will be used glass.
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I think I mentioned somewhere that our R has a chip just below the driver's viewpoint. It's been professionally repaired, but it still catches my eye and people have even commented on it, so it's pretty annoying. Makes me think I ought to go ahead and get ours replaced now since used ones are like hen's teeth.

After reading a few posts I didn't realize that the original windshields had "SSR" in or on them. If that's the case, our new-to-us R has already had its windshield replaced at least once. It has the "AS1" symbol on it, but that's it.

Our auto insurance includes full glass coverage so it wouldn't be too painful (as long as they don't drop us) but I didn't want to risk a bad windshield experience. May have to rethink that now.

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PPG spun off the auto glass business and its now PWG.
PWG does not have SSR replacement glass.
Pilkington no longer makes SSR glass and FUYAO is now the only source and according to our local Safelight they have to search the US to find them they are scarce. I have an appointment for next Tues to get mine replaced, if they can find one. Pretty soon our only option will be used glass.
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I can attest to the scarcity of SSR glass at Safelite. They had to search Florida for my replacement and luckily happened to locate one. Glass is flat as a board but there are no other options at this point.
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Had Safelite replace mine today at the house.
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I removed the pillar and cowl trim before the tech arrived. Took him less than an hour to replace and did a great job. The new glass came with the correct top rubber seal, antenna button and mirror mount installed.
Yes, the FUYAO glass is flatter in the center but not as bad as I expected. I laid my cowl cover upside down on the bench and heated it with a heat gun to flatten it. After a few fittings it fits and seals tight.
Sure is nice looking through clear glass again.
I saved the OEM windshield. I ordered some cerium oxide and will try to polish out the haze. I tried some retail glass polish before but did little to improve it. If I can salvage it I'll have a usable spare.
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OEM can be fixed.

Have a mobile professional restoration glass shop come to the house and have the OEM restored back to like new with their process. I had my '06 Ford P/Up done and it looks just like new. Cost $125.00. While he was there he fixed a small rock chip on my '03 SSR.

I tried different kits available and home remedies to fix mine. They didn't work!!!!

Super Glass Windshield Repair is a franchise all over USA. Do a search and you will find one near to you.

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Have a mobile professional restoration glass shop come to the house and have the OEM restored back to like new with their process. I had my '06 Ford P/Up done and it looks just like new. Cost $125.00. While he was there he fixed a small rock chip on my '03 SSR.

I tried different kits available and home remedies to fix mine. They didn't work!!!!

Super Glass Windshield Repair is a franchise all over USA. Do a search and you will find one near to you.

Here's the link: https://superglass.com/

Enjoy your ride.....
Found a place in North Houston a few years ago after I go the SSR that wanted $225 and would not guarantee the results.
For another $100 I could have a new windshield so I put it off as long as I could. I'll take a crack at it myself now...nothing to lose at this point. If I get it reasonably restored then I have an Unobtainuim OEM spare Windshield.
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