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And I luckily got no. 856!!! Yea!:jesterI was so giddy writing the check for the whole thing and still can't believe it is mine after all this time.
 

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I was lookking in the hard cover SSR book. It had a picture of the first "Saleable" 2003 SSR with a date like July 29th 2003. That late in the production year on any other model would have made it a 2004. So when did the 2004 model year start its build?
 

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There is a thread out there (thanx to Keith) with the numbers built for all years. Some of the '03s were not given VIN#s and used in areas other than testing and research (PET vehicles). That total as I recall was 3416. The 3361 VIN'd is probably correct.

My '04, which is 3438 was built 12/23/03. So the production for '04s started, when they produced 70 per day, was close to that date.

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03 SSRs were built late into the 2003 calendar year.

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I was lookking in the hard cover SSR book. It had a picture of the first "Saleable" 2003 SSR with a date like July 29th 2003. That late in the production year on any other model would have made it a 2004. So when did the 2004 model year start its build?
GM or any other manufacture can build an i.e. 2003 SSR up to the last day of that year. Once you hit the new year you can not build last years model.

Maybe easier understood this way... lets say GM wanted to make 2006 SSRs as long as they could. The last buildable date they could call it a 2006 would be December 31, 2006. After January 1st 2007 it would then have to be called a 2007 model.
 

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Oh thats interesting But really and truly GM just called the early 04 build 03s. So SSr really stands to be a 3 model year car.
 

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03s were not called 04s

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Oh thats interesting But really and truly GM just called the early 04 build 03s. So SSr really stands to be a 3 model year car.
Sorry but that isn't what really happened. GM had intended on building the 03s earlier than July of that summer. GM had so many orders for 03s that they continued to build them into December of 2003. It is also my understanding that because GM had so many 03s orders GM had to make some of them 2004 models. As Ed just stated his and one of my friends 04 were built in late December of 2003.

Thus there will be four SSR MY (model years) 03, 04, 05, 06
 

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Marc NY said:
Sorry but that isn't what really happened. GM had so many orders for 03s that they continued to build them into December of 2003. It is also my understanding because they had so many 03s orders GM had to make some of them 2004 models. As Ed stated his and one of my friends 04 was built in December of 2003.
Yes that I understand But, Most other GM models had put the 2003 model year to bed in late June of 2003. Usually GM starts production of the next model year after they come back from the 2 week 4th of July break in mid July. If Chevrolet just started the 2003 model year on July 29th of 2003, this date puts the so called 2003 model year smack dab into all the other divisions 2004 model start up.
Maybe there were some new federal regulations for 04 they were not up to speed with so they continued to call the build 2003 until they were. It may also be that GM wanted to "save face" and not make it look like they missed the mark on there promise (as they did with the missing 1983 model year Corvette) of an SSr for 2003. Hence if the SSrs 2003 model year "really" started when all the other divisions had there 2004s going off the line already The 2003 build and 2004 build shared the same 1 model year time frame. This is why I say at the end of 2006 in all reality there were only 3 model years maybe 3 1/4 at best. NOW, If you look at the numbers Chevrolet produced over 13500 SSrs the first year it was in production tallying up the short "03" model year with the 04 model year but still being within a normal GM model year time span. This number was well within GMs sales goal for the SSR. Whats surprising to me is that the 05 model year saw an almost 50% drop in sales/production even with the many improvements that were made.
 

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Additional Comments on why there was a very short 03 MY production run

I thought I would seek some extra help on clairifying why GM made the 2003 production SSRs instead of 2004 MY SSRs. So today I aksed Bob why... here are some of his comments back to me.

Bob Walczyk said:
Not all vehicles start up the same. For example, the 2007 MY Tahoe begins shipping this month. MY timing is based on many FMVSS regulations, and is typically tied to safety and emission rollouts/requirements.

For SSR, the first Signature Series vehicle was built in late 2002, as a 2003 MY. Regulations do not allow manufacturer's to cross two January 1st's with the same model designator, and therefore we had to make a choice early in the program when the Signature Series idea was agreed to:

1. Keep the Signature Series as the only 2003 MY SSR's and start regular production as the 2004 MY in October of 2003 (That would have made the 2004 MY extremely long)

2. Make all of the SSR's built in 2002/2003 Calendar Years a 2003 Model. This would provide a larger 2003 MY run, and would allow more individuals the ability to have one of the first MY units.

We chose #2, and allocated out product to our dealers accordingly. We felt this provided the best customer value by keeping the model runs the smallest possible. Total production of the 2003 MY run was 3,416.

Additional thoughts:

Each MY has specific part numbers assigned to them due to timing and potentially federal safety and emission regulations as well. Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards also play a roll in determining when a vehicle changes model years, as the weighted Model year average determines a manufacturers' performance.

Lastly, LCC has always comeback after the traditional two week shut down building the same model year as it had built prior to the shut down. This was always the plan, as SSR has many shared components as the TrailBlazer and we wanted to lag the model year conversion of that product line at all times.

Other vehicles do this as well. So the statement that model change always occurs after the two week shut down is not always accurate, and in today's environment of trying to balance overall corporate resources, less and less typical across the industry as well.

Bob Walczyk
 

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Clairification

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... As Ed just stated his and one of my friends 04 were built in late December of 2003.
I have to clarify my above comment. I was mistaken when I said that my friend's early 04 was made in December. Bob W. clairified that for me and said that there were only two 2004 MY SSRs built in December of 2003. One was a Ultra-Violet and the other one was Ricochet Silver. My friends is a very early Redline Red 04 SSR.

Perhaps Ed's or P/P's SSR was the first 04 SSR built?
 

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Marc,

Based on Bob's comments, I question the accuracy of some of the production numbers quoted in earlier threads.

Here's the info that I have compiled, based on data off this forum and out of the "SSR, An American Original" book. I know that there is accuracy available in someone's archives somewhere that should be captured before it escapes. I believe that both the Concept truck and the Production Intent truck were NOT on the 368 chassis. I understand that all the pre-production units (368 chassis) were eventually crashed, scrapped or have just disappeared. It would be interesting to identify where they all went.

SSRs Produced

3384 2003 3,384
10674 2004 10,674
7278 2005 7,278

1 Show Concept
1 Production Intent
~30 Pre-production prototypes (testing/demo, but never titled)

Do you think there is anyone around that would be willing to research this through to the last detail? I know my numbers are probably incorrect, but it is the best I have.

Mike
 

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Mike in AZ said:
... Do you think there is anyone around that would be willing to research this through to the last detail? I know my numbers are probably incorrect, but it is the best I have. Mike
Mike these are the "official" numbers for 03 - 05 MY productions.

Numbers are:
2003 MY 3,416
2004 MY 10,676
2005 MY 7,279
 

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Thanks for posting Bob's info...
 

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Need more data

Marc,

OK, you've got me started now..... I read some of the previous threads and must assume that the discrepancy lies in some "engineering build" serial numbers.

The analytical (note the first 4 letters of the word) engineer starts coming out here..... kinda like the beast within. He makes me crazy sometimes....... I really prefer the practical engineer side of me. Anyway..... Looks like I'll be putting this on a HUGE spreadsheet of all the serial numbers. Something the anal engineer has wanted to do for some time now.....

Rebel may be able to use this too......


I'll be in touch later,

Mike
 

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Marc: Mine is clearly an 03 MY SSR. It is no. 856 and was built way before december. That would be #856 out of three thousand some SSR's built that year. I tried to order one and did in fact have a deal in Texas but found an incredibly loaded one up in Springfield Va. at Pallone Chevrolet. Wrote a check for it that same day and drove away grinnin from ear to ear and I'm still grinnin!:), just as most of you still are. Ain't life grand?:jester
 

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Ricochet said:
Oh thats interesting But really and truly GM just called the early 04 build 03s. So SSr really stands to be a 3 model year car.
Don't think so! I own my 2003 SSR w/ pride!!! I knew there would be a hard time telling 2003's from '04's - see my Vanity Plate...

As mentioned - there were a couple signature series SSR's built in late '02 - and my allocation was submitted to LCC in JUNE of '03. When I took delivery, I did have 26 days left in 2003 to drive my NEW 2003 SSR!:glol

To really skew the results, I took delivery of my 2006 HHR in early August '05 (Late July '05 Build) - SO - the two "R's" I have (an '03 SSR and an '06 HHR) were built less than 2 years apart (21 months).

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Some totals I have found:
Last Vin For 2003- 3b103361 Built 12/22/03
First Vin For 2004- 4b103362 Built 12/22/03
Last Vin For 2004- 4b114086 Built 8/23/04 (10724 Total Vins For 2004)
First Vin For 2005-5b114087 Built 8/24/04

03 SSR Percent by Color (3416)
44% Redline Red (1503)
33% Smokin’ Asphalt (1127)
23% Slingshot Yellow (786)

04 SSR Percent by Color (10676)
29.6 Redline Red (3160)
26.0 Slingshot Yellow (2776)
19.5 Smokin’ Asphalt (2082)
13.0 Ricochet Silver (1388)
11.9 Ultra-Violet (1270)

05 SSR Percent by Color (7279)
24.2 Smokin’ Asphalt (1761)
22.5 Redline Red (1638)
18.5 Slingshot Yellow (1347)
17.9 Aqua Blur (1303)
16.9 Ricochet Silver (1230)

ALL Model Years - Per color

Smokin’ Asphalt - 4970
Redline Red - 6301
Slingshot Yellow - 4909
Aqua Blur - 1303
Ricochet Silver - 2618
UV - 1270
 

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One SSR engineer's perspective on 03 MY ...

Marc

Pretty simple to answer. The SSR wasn't production ready so we delayed start of regular production in for 2003, decreased the number of units for that model year in and increased the forecast for the 2004 model year. So there is the 2003, 2004, 2005 (new engine) and 2006 model years and that equals 4.

There are differences in the electrical systems aka harness, product EWO and ECM between the 2003 and 2004. You can build a 2003 from Jan 1st 2003 to Dec 31st 2003 and you could have built a 2003 in 2002. ... we were to discontinue the SSR the end of 2006 model year unless there was a reason not to.

Remember the Craft Centre was to build 4 different halo niche vehicles some rear wheel and some front wheel and possibly an all wheel drive.

Best Regards,

BTW: The color % break downs had been given to us by Bob awhile back. Bob is working on giving us all a much more detailed history with possible break down of more options, colors and other pertinent data too! :thumbs
 

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Marc NY said:
... we were to discontinue the SSR the end of 2006 model year unless there was a reason not to.
Hmmm.....of course I'm relying on my faulty memory, but wasn't is supposed to be a 5 year run? (Not that that matters now)
 

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Remember... that everyone has their own views ...

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Hmmm.....of course I'm relying on my faulty memory, but wasn't is supposed to be a 5 year run? (Not that that matters now)
Yes, that was what I had heard too. I remember beening told it was a "five year business case" that had been presented to the GM brass for the SSRs. I also had heard that they were hoping to have at least a 5 - 7 year run. :yesnod

*Please know this... I will try to present you with all information as I receive it ... it is up to each of one of us to try and interupt what it all actualy means. :)
 
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