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You learn something every day. I have lived in the area for over 20 years and been on portions of the road many times over the years. Never knew it was called Back of the Dragon.
Rt 16 Marion to Tazewell. We are looking forward to it
 

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Did you try using the manual gear selection for 1st or 2nd gear to help slow the car. The manual 1 and 2 are designed to provide engine braking, thus when descending a steep grade in order for the car to go faster going down the grade, the engine is also forced to go faster which helps to slow car without using the brakes. Manual 1 and 2 on an automatic are the same gear ratio - the difference is deceleration. Try it! start out from a stop and then let off the accelerator and notice how the car coasts easily to a stop, then start off in 1st gear on selector and then notice how car slows to a stop when you release the accelerator.

Cars with a CVT (like the Prius) may have a "B" on the shfter for "engine braking" = however more accurately on a hybrid (Prius) it is actually just more aggressive regenerative braking - the electric MOTORs are programmed to be more aggressive generators (produce more electricity) to slow car down.

This will prevent burning up your brakes linings or worse yet - boiling the fluid if it is severely contaminated with moisture.
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Do not forget that all cars/trucks on the road yet today............Do NOT have disc brakes. Older DRUM brakes are the real problem. I've experienced it first hand........not fun.

In the mountains of No. Carolina, (not on the Dragon), but near Cherokee I was following a Ford Van down the mountain. He had to keep jumping on the brakes and finally, he realized they were "fading out". He managed to pull off at a certain level turn and (I'm guessing) allow the brakes to cool down.

If you have never experienced big time (brake fade), if it happens, it will get your attention............pretty quickly.:eek:
 

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Are you talkin about Back of the Dragon in Virginia or Little Shepherd's trail in Kentucky?
Back of the dragon, we were coming back east from hungry mother state park
 

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Did you try using the manual gear selection for 1st or 2nd gear to help slow the car. The manual 1 and 2 are designed to provide engine braking, thus when descending a steep grade in order for the car to go faster going down the grade, the engine is also forced to go faster which helps to slow car without using the brakes. Manual 1 and 2 on an automatic are the same gear ratio - the difference is deceleration. Try it! start out from a stop and then let off the accelerator and notice how the car coasts easily to a stop, then start off in 1st gear on selector and then notice how car slows to a stop when you release the accelerator.

Cars with a CVT (like the Prius) may have a "B" on the shfter for "engine braking" = however more accurately on a hybrid (Prius) it is actually just more aggressive regenerative braking - the electric MOTORs are programmed to be more aggressive generators (produce more electricity) to slow car down.

This will prevent burning up your brakes linings or worse yet - boiling the fluid if it is severely contaminated with moisture.
Yes, it was in second gear all the way down. The camper was determined to push me down that mountain!
 

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Did you try using the manual gear selection for 1st or 2nd gear to help slow the car. The manual 1 and 2 are designed to provide engine braking, thus when descending a steep grade in order for the car to go faster going down the grade, the engine is also forced to go faster which helps to slow car without using the brakes. Manual 1 and 2 on an automatic are the same gear ratio - the difference is deceleration. Try it! start out from a stop and then let off the accelerator and notice how the car coasts easily to a stop, then start off in 1st gear on selector and then notice how car slows to a stop when you release the accelerator.

Cars with a CVT (like the Prius) may have a "B" on the shfter for "engine braking" = however more accurately on a hybrid (Prius) it is actually just more aggressive regenerative braking - the electric MOTORs are programmed to be more aggressive generators (produce more electricity) to slow car down.

This will prevent burning up your brakes linings or worse yet - boiling the fluid if it is severely contaminated with moisture.
Actually, 1st and 2nd are two different gears when downshifting. 1st is simply program protected to not engage until a certain vehicle speed is obtained - usually below around 10 mph. Until you reach that threshold, the trans will just hang in 2nd gear, no matter which gear is selected.
 
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I enjoyed seeing the Tree of Shame at the Deals Gap end of Tail of the Dragon. There must be 1000 broken motorcycle parts hanging from it. Then they have a cork board of polaroid's of bloody elbows and knees, broken bones from the folks that over ride their abilities! We rode it end to end took our time and let everyone pass us that wanted. We made it to the end, had a blast, and didn't loose any skin along the way. Enjoy
 
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