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Depending on just what type of road surface you're traveling on, it seems to me like there is more "noise" inside than there ought to be. I keep checking my windows to be sure they are all the way closed..........seems like I have to turn the radio volume up more than I should.

Is there lack of insulation in the doors and behind the seats and floor, etc. Or is it a case of "It is what it is".............live with it.:frown2:
 

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Depending on just what type of road surface you're traveling on, it seems to me like there is more "noise" inside than there ought to be. I keep checking my windows to be sure they are all the way closed..........seems like I have to turn the radio volume up more than I should.

Is there lack of insulation in the doors and behind the seats and floor, etc. Or is it a case of "It is what it is".............live with it.:frown2:
The noise you are talking about is coming from the rear tires, directly up through the air exit vents on the sides of the roof compartment. There is a "fix" for this in Dictator's set of instructions. It involves gluing a very thin piece of foam on the metal panel that reflects the sound into the cab. Definitely NOT rocket science...... Just takes a little patience.

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At 14 years old, my hot rod truck with multiple moving roof panels and healthy exhaust definitely makes more noise than my wife's new KIA Sportage. But I kinda wear that as a badge of honor. I'd do what Mike and Dictator suggest to fix what you can as it helps a little.
 

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On our TV, I used to have the volume on #30, now at 78, I have to have it on 32 or even 33, so it could be your hearing. In the SSR, I or we have it on "high" that's why we're thinking of taking the XM/Sirius out and putting the original AM/FM back in. However, I am seriously thinking of "installing" Bellville's "thin piece of foam" Are we talking about Styrofoam ??? Bob Alexander :ssr
 

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The noise you are talking about is coming from the rear tires, directly up through the air exit vents on the sides of the roof compartment. There is a "fix" for this in Dictator's set of instructions. It involves gluing a very thin piece of foam on the metal panel that reflects the sound into the cab. Definitely NOT rocket science...... Just takes a little patience.

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OK, I'll follow up on this trick. Popped the top (slightly) and can see those vents, have not pried either one loose yet, but likely they have not been "modified" per the (sponge insert) trick.

As to the rest of the Wind Noise pdf file from Dictator, I've made the following observations. It appears that someone has already done the round foam trick on the upper roof section, both front end and back end. Assuming the (round foam) you're using appears like an oversized section of windshield washer hose.....What I'm seeing is hollow like a straw, but with thicker side walls.

However, I can not see nor feel as though any 1/2 round foam, etc. has been used on the roof cover lid at all. Also I noticed directly above those side vents is another opening with what appears to be the top of another hydraulic rod. Guess some insulation over those openings would help too.

I believe the stock rubber seals around the top are in good shape, I'll try the sponge trick and go from there.:|
 

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If you look behind the seat you will see an open space from the cabin to the top storage department. You can take a large (preferably black) beach towel and roll it and put there to block a large portion of the noise or some of the guys have fabricated a removable foam blocker.

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If you look behind the seat you will see an open space from the cabin to the top storage department. You can take a large (preferably black) beach towel and roll it and put there to block a large portion of the noise or some of the guys have fabricated a removable foam blocker.

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Been meaning to ask. Why is there an open gap behind the seats into the top storage area? So I can hear the bass speakers?

I use the rolled up towel trick on long runs, but why is the gap even there in the first place? Sure there is a logical explanation, but what is it?

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Why?

The space is needed for the top to clear as it is raised or lowered.

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If you look behind the seat you will see an open space from the cabin to the top storage department. You can take a large (preferably black) beach towel and roll it and put there to block a large portion of the noise or some of the guys have fabricated a removable foam blocker.

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OK, after seeing your comment, I went back (again) as I have done repeatedly over this whole discussion. I broke out a flashlite and moved both seatbacks forward.......and at first, I thought.......WTF....is he talking about.:wink2:

I could not see any "gap" and/or opening to the top storage area. At last, I viewed the, (what we would call years ago...on a sedan.......the "package shelf") just below the back window and on the left/right end.:nerd:

I'm assuming that is the (opening) that you reference and what some use a towel to suppress the noise and some others a chunk of foam:|
 

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Oh, and don't forget... that big opening in the back we call a truck bed... well, it's also a reverberation chamber for anything going on under the truck.
 

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OK, after seeing your comment, I went back (again) as I have done repeatedly over this whole discussion. I broke out a flashlite and moved both seatbacks forward.......and at first, I thought.......WTF....is he talking about.:wink2:

I could not see any "gap" and/or opening to the top storage area. At last, I viewed the, (what we would call years ago...on a sedan.......the "package shelf") just below the back window and on the left/right end.:nerd:

I'm assuming that is the (opening) that you reference and what some use a towel to suppress the noise and some others a chunk of foam:|
Take a look!!

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Take a look!!

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So, I agree, but as to the (gap) above and left/right of the seats, I'm not necessarily wanting to use a "towel" to suppress that large opening on (both sides). Are some using a caarved up chunk of foam insulation or what else to fill that gap and at the same time, not interfere with the top up/down function.:|
 

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Years ago I made piece fill that gap out of some stiff material, worked great. One problem, I forgot to remove it before I lowered the top to demo it for a young man as we were coming back from a Rally. When we got to the motel it was about to rain and the top cover would not open, the filler fell to the bottom and the top sections sat down on it and the top cover latch cylinders were not strong enough to open. After a lot of crying and moaning (not me) "It is going to rain and flood the truck". I pointed out that were setting next to a very large roof over the driveway at the hotel. I pushed on each side after I finally got her to push on the switch and the cover opened. I threw the filler piece away.

A few months ago I made a piece out of soft foam pipe wrap from Home Depot and some 1/2" foam for the end pieces. I used paper to make a templet for the end pieces and paint stirrers to stiffen the ends. Works great and if I forget it will flatten and not foul the top cover. Works great but I still put clear plastic button the top button as a reminder. Hey, I am old.

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MOSCOTER last year there were several Fanatics that made the layered foam piece that fits all the way across the back deck behind the seats. It was the perfect shape and length. Carlbush was one of them and I don't remember the others. I bought one from him and it works perfectly and keeps out a lot of the noise. It was inexpensive and worth it. Also, the Dicktator's fix with the foam in the to vents where the road noise comes in from the tires. A simple an easy fix.
 

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ASC spent 1.2 million designing our Roof which has been copied by several car manufactures. You have a $10,000. roof on your SSR, if you divide production against cost.

I remember Chief Design Engineer Bill Davis at a Rally in Florida saying "Do you know what you have?" "The next hardtop convertible is the Mercedes at $80,000. dollars."

He went on to ask "How many would have bought the SSR if it had a "Ragtop"?? We all said "None".

That said, is it perfect, for me, yes!

Even my wife of 41 years has some road noise, once in a while, but she is perfect!!

Keep the top down, no road noise, soundproof, use a towel or buy one of Carl Bush rubber sound suppressors that work very well.

And put on a "Permagrin", you have an SSR!

Dicktator

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