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I've recently been trying to trade my 2 month old $48,200.00 SSR, with 1,400 miles on it for a 2005 Thunderbird.
Kelley Blue Book shows a trade in price of $37,410.00 in "good" condition.
One Ford dealer wouldn't even give me a price for it, and a VERY reputable Ford dealer I've bought 2 Thunderbirds from said he'd called several Chevy dealers in the Dallas- Ft. Worth area and the highest bid he got was $31,000.00.
He said dealers were telling him they were selling similar SSrs at auctions for between $28,000.00 and $30,000.00 dollars. :mad
So I say, if you want one of the several hundred 2004 SSRs left on dealers lots, "Head On Down To Your Nearest Chevrolet Dealer"! :thumbs
Start off offering them $28,000.00 and let them work from there! :boxing
 

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LOL... To each his own..I could not and would not trade my SSR for any Ford made.


I do not care if the bottom fell out of this truck, there is simply nothing else on the road like it....

Now If I could only win the lotto..I would have one of every color... :thumbs
 
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Actually, I checked the "Black Book" and he's RIGHT! :mad
The 2004 is $31,000.00 and some change.
The 2003 models are only about $1,500.00 LOWER than the 2004s. :rolleyes:
So all you lucky 2003 owners had better count your blessings! :angel
 

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Why Would I?

I have to ask myself, if I was such a dyed in the wool Ford fan, why would I buy a Chevrolet..., oh, thats right, my daddy tolt me if he ever caught me driving a Ford, he would shoot me first, then the Ford. LOL
Mike :cool
 

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Reality

The current retail price, as evidenced by transactions on eBay and with dealers, for a new 04 with MSRP of $46 thousand or so is less than $31 thousand. There is good selection availabe at this price or just a bit more $32.5 thousand in much of the country. If you really want to buy, sniff around and you will find good values. :thumbs

Would imagine that one of the reasons the one dealer did not want to quote a price is because the 03/04 used SSr market is very thin and has deteriorated so much that, if one really needs to sell, the price has to be cut significantly. This makes a lot of sense as dealers are selling new for the very low $30's such that, applying fundamental rules of thumb, an average used should sell for about 20% less or hardly more than $25k. :leaving

Given the large volume of unsold SSr inventory (both 03/04 series one and the new improved 05's) do not expect pricing will increase from current levels even if The General goes with a 40 per day/200 per week production plan which yields in the order of 10 thousand units per year as production has materially exceeded demand even at the deeply discounted we are seeing now. The question is when will the bottom fall out of the 05 product that is accumulating on dealers lots!

BTW, I fear the Black Book is lagging the market......

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Ford T-Bird

Sam,

Curious why you would get rid of such a fun eye catching vehicle and buy a vehicle that is in as much trouble with sales as everyone seems to think as the SSR. :confused

We seriously looked at the T-Bird prior to the purchase of our SSR (Dec. 2004).

Ford dealers in Southern California (Convertible capital of the U.S.) were doing exactly what the Chevrolet dealers are doing. Nearly every Ford dealer we went to had new 03's and all had 04's, along with 05's. They could not give them away.
A good friend bought one for his wife, because that was the vehicle she desired. He felt he stole the T-Bird (04) for $15,000 under MSRP. One month later, the same dealer was reducing the 05's, $5000.

Moral of the story, purchase what makes your heart thump, but I do not see alot of people pulling over T-Birds to ask them about their vehicles, besides the hard top is a pain :yawn

ENJOY WHAT YOU DRIVE :thumbs
 

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Sam, Interesting coincidence. A Chevy dealer offered $19,500 for my immaculate 11k miles 2004 T-bird on trade for a 2005 SSR. I bought it new for $31k (list was $42k) about a year ago. He claimed that was the best he could get from the local Ford dealers. Both are boutique vehicles with very poor sales records. And if you paid $48k for a 2004 just 2 months ago (did you, or were you just quoting the sticker price?) I have to say you did not do your research.

As you can see from my sig I own both Ford and Chevy products.
 

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I've been sniffing SSR tires around here (Iowa) and even though there are several long time lot setters, the dealers don't seem to be aware of the fact that they need to discount prices to move them. I was offered an 05 for 3k under sticker, which didn't thrill me much. Same dealer also has an 03 with 130 miles, offered for 40k. I didn't bother to ask if they had any clue as to why no one had bought it yet....... I think I'll wait for the 05's to come down a little more.
 

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Goss Motors in LaGrande OR had an 04 list 43K advertised for 36.5K brand new. BTW OR has no sales tax which would pay for the drive. Really, buy it and get it out of my neck of the woods, I kinda like having the only one seen in these parts.
 
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Both the SSR, and the Thunderbird, are Fantastic vehicles! :thumbs
The problem is that BOTH vehicles drop like a ROCK in value. :mad
It's like trying to decide whether you want to sail on the Titanic, or the Lusitania! :rolleyes:
 

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I'm a newbie and a I bought an 04 on Jan. 27,2005 with a list of 45097 and paid 31720 for it. I traded in a 03 Vette and got money back, but you know what, I personally like the SSR better. I'm not worried about what it will be worth as I like the SSR (BLACK) If you want it , buy it and enjoy. Nuff said!
 

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Sam, when i was living in MA I purchased a 2002 Ford Thunderbird for $43,556. After a year and only about 11,000 miles on it I wanted to sell the car to purchase a 2003 Corvette Z06. The t-bird had almost every aftermarket option you can think of at that time and the dealer wanted to pay $23,000 at most for it. I then was curious and so i asked the same ford dealer in medford, MA how much they would put for it and they said $24,500. I was extremely lucky to have sold it for $26,000 and this is a full option t-bird with the hardtop and all the accessories that it came with. I can write three paragraphs of complaints i had with the t-bird but i would only be wasting people's time and what did ford do about it??? NOTHING. absolutely nothing, infact, when i first when to buy the car they treated me like i was going to go buy a car i could never dream to afford but i would be stupid if i said its a bad looking car cause its one of the most attractive cars i have ever owned and i would get more eyes and questions about the car much more then i would have in a porsche. besides problems and poor used market value for the car, its a great car but to me, an SSR shouldnt be compared to it. If so then all i can say is ''Go chevy'' :)
 

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Like I said before - the guy down the block offered to swap his T-Bird for my SSR. I'm still laughing.
 

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at that price maybe i can get one for the other half !!!!!!!!!
 

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You can never purchase a new vehicle and expect to trade it w few months later without taking a bath, regardless of brand or style. The unfortunate thing is the T-bird won't do you any better and possibly worse. They haven't sold well and resale values tank right after driving them off the lot. I just bought my new 04 SSR a few weeks ago for $18,000 LESS than the MSRP (window sticker). It's simple supply and demand and right now there is far more supply than demand. With new units being discounted this much no dealer will want a used one unless they take it on a very low price so they stand a chance to be able to sell it and still make some profit.

The good thing is once the 04 stock is sold out the used values should rebound because there won't be any factory or dealer influence to reduce the values. Then the demand might be greater then the supply on hand, especially with 05's up over $52K for MSRP. Even discounted if a new 05 is $47K or so used 04's should go up to the high 30's.

Sorry to see you dislike your SSR so much you are looking for the T-Bird. But, it's your money and you deserve to have what makes you happiest. Buy what you want and just enjoy it! We can't take it with us as they say!
 

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The good thing is once the 04 stock is sold out the used values should rebound because there won't be any factory or dealer influence to reduce the values. Then the demand might be greater then the supply on hand, especially with 05's up over $52K for MSRP. Even discounted if a new 05 is $47K or so used 04's should go up to the high 30's.
I AGREE!
 
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I HOPE you're right. I posted this on another thread, it has nothing to do with NOT liking my SSR, I just had a bad experience, and everytime I look at the SSR it reminds me of it! :mad

I’ve had a bad past couple of weeks.

On Saturday, January 29th, a co worker offered to come over after work, and fix a virus on my home PC. We arrived at my condo around 6:30PM. I parked in my assigned covered space, and he parked in the empty one on my right.

After fixing the PC, we had a few drinks, watched TV, and he went home at 10:30 PM.

The next day I went down to my truck at about 12:30PM to go to the grocery store. I thought, hmmmm, Robert had a few last night, I’d better check the right side to see if he put a door ding in it. Everything was fine, and as I walked back around behind it, I happened to glance down at the bumper. I swear I heard the music from Psycho!!!

Someone had backed into my bumper!

I looked at the cars that park across from me and sure enough, there was a dark gray Jetta that was purchased at our dealership, with yellow paint on it. I left them a note with my home # on it, asking them to call me.

Later that afternoon the husband called, and I met him in the parking lot. He asked me if I worked at XYZ dealership? I told him yes, and asked him how he knew? He said his brother in law worked here in another building, and told me his name. We exchanged insurance info and left it at that.

The next morning when I was leaving for work, there was a NASTY letter on my windshield from them accusing me of backing into their car, along with a mind boggling bunch of other B.S. on it. They threatened SEVERAL times that if I called their insurance company they were going to take legal action!

I spoke with a friend of mine, and he said since it happened in a parking lot, and there were no witness’s, that more than likely I’d just have to let my insurance pay for my car, and their insurance pay for their car. That seemed like the general jist of their letter, once you got past all the nastiness, so I wanted to call them and be sure that’s what they wanted.

There were no #’s on the letter to call them, so I called her brother, and he didn’t know where his brother in law worked, (said he changes jobs all the time), but he told me the name of the title company where his sister worked. It was the name of the same title that did the paper work on my condo last year, and it’s right across the street, so I tried that location first.

Sure enough that was where she worked, and when she came to the phone she immediately began screaming, over, and over, “HOW DID YOU GET THIS NUMBER!? HOW DID YOU GET THIS NUMBER!? HOW DID YOU GET THIS NUMBER!?

I didn’t want to get her brother in trouble so I didn’t say. I was just trying to get this crazy broad to shut her mouth long enough to tell me that the letter meant what I thought it meant. She finally said yes, and I thought that was the end of it.

Later in the day, my boss said, “Man, who is this crazy *%#@, that keeps calling and screaming, she wants to talk to the owner, and she’s going to sue?”

Turns out she was trying to say I’d looked her work number in our computer at work, and that was a violation of the privacy act. She even got her brother to say I’d talked to him an hour and a half, AFTER I’d called her! (How does THAT make sense?)

I got called up to the owner’s son’s office and screamed, cussed, and yelled at. (All this while the Christian music is being piped over the PA system.) I felt I was very close to being fired, after 5 ½ years, and making the company MILLIONS of dollars, over a crazy *%#@ who bought ONE $15,000.00 car here, at BELOW invoice.

ALL THIS because someone backed into MY car!
 
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