[SoCADesertRat]

Marilyn has been sitting in the garage with her top down for a couple of weeks since her last car show. Going to another show tomorrow but now neither the top nor the window switches will actuate their respective functions. Door locks and TC switches work but with engine running, cargo lid down and latched, foot on brake -- no movement for the top or the windows. Top is down and windows are up about 3-4 inches. There is no clicking or other noise and no messages in the DIC.

Any ideas -- fuses, etc? All interventions will be immensely appreciated.

Many thanks in advance, Gib

 

[turnheadz]

not sure this will work but.... the fuse box behind the passenger seat - switch the two breakers, silver ones near the top if I recall, pull them out and switch them. They will eventually reset.

 

[SoCADesertRat]

not sure this will work but.... the fuse box behind the passenger seat - switch the two breakers, silver ones near the top if I recall, pull them out and switch them. They will eventually reset.

I did switch the breakers and nothing changed. After I remove them should I wait a while before plugging them into the opposite sides?

Thanks.

 

[TruckNRod]

Could be Roof/Door Module (RDM). A couple of older threads:

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f5/sudden-tech-session-117826/
http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f5/top-windows-inop-142129/

 

[SoCADesertRat]

Could be Roof/Door Module (RDM). A couple of older threads:

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f5/sudden-tech-session-117826/
http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f5/top-windows-inop-142129/

Thanks for that. I have been reading those threads and am convinced that that is the issue. The windows came back for a short time today, then quit, then started to work again -- all intermittently. I am going to get a replacement RDM. Thanks, again.

 

[Dicktator]

Try changing 125amp fuse front of fuse box, it feed all functions in rear fuse box.

Just put jumper across and see if everything works before you change it.

Dicktator

 

[SoCADesertRat]

Try changing 125amp fuse front of fuse box, it feed all functions in rear fuse box.

Just put jumper across and see if everything works before you change it.

Dicktator

Many thanks. Will do. Began to get the "Roof Ajar" message and chime every few seconds while driving it Sunday. At a traffic light, I tried the passenger window and it would work intermittently and then it quit. The factory radio started to quit every few seconds and then start back up almost instantaneously. Don't know it the radio situation has any connection with the roof issue.

Gib

 

[ED in FL]

not sure this will work but.... the fuse box behind the passenger seat - switch the two breakers, silver ones near the top if I recall, pull them out and switch them. They will eventually reset.

There is a popular misconception about Roof Door Module circuit breakers being switched.
Switching the breakers serves no purpose!
It is the removal of both breakers that de-energizes the control circuitry and allows the control circuitry to reset.

 

[xoxoxoBruce]

Is there a minimum time for them to both be out, Ed?

 

[ED in FL]

Is there a minimum time for them to both be out, Ed?

I recently removed both breakers to reset the roof control circuitry at the Daytona Rally - I am thinking the breakers were out for 1 minute.

In a related process I removed fuse 27 to reset the ECM.
The first time I tried this for 15 minutes - it did not reset the ECM.
I pulled fuse 27 for 30 minutes and the ECM reset

 

[SoCADesertRat]

I recently removed both breakers to reset the roof control circuitry at the Daytona Rally - I am thinking the breakers were out for 1 minute.

In a related process I removed fuse 27 to reset the ECM.
The first time I tried this for 15 minutes - it did not reset the ECM.
I pulled fuse 27 for 30 minutes and the ECM reset

Ed, I did remove the 2 silver circuit breakers and left them out for at least 1/2 hour and no change. I just today bridged the 125 amp fuse in the box under the hood as per Dicktator's post above and the top and windows worked. I removed the bridge and they still worked. I have not touched the RDM.

Based on those symptoms, what should be my next step?

Thanks in advance. Gib

 

[Dicktator]

Ed, I did remove the 2 silver circuit breakers and left them out for at least 1/2 hour and no change. I just today bridged the 125 amp fuse in the box under the hood as per Dicktator's post above and the top and windows worked. I removed the bridge and they still worked. I have not touched the RDM.

Based on those symptoms, what should be my next step?

Thanks in advance. Gib

NOTHING! You reset RDM, good for you!!

REPLACE 125 amp fuse!!!

Dicktator

 

[BlueStreak]

Ed, I did remove the 2 silver circuit breakers and left them out for at least 1/2 hour and no change. I just today bridged the 125 amp fuse in the box under the hood as per Dicktator's post above and the top and windows worked. I removed the bridge and they still worked. I have not touched the RDM.

Based on those symptoms, what should be my next step?

Thanks in advance. Gib

Remember what you did so you can answer the question for someone else down the line!

 

[SoCADesertRat]

Remember what you did so you can answer the question for someone else down the line!

Here is a complete rundown on what I did. I have no idea which step was the most important or if it was the combination that helped, all I know is that after doing all of the below, the roof and windows (at least for now) work flawlessly --

1. Bridged the 125 amp fuse under in the fuse box in the engine compartment to make the top run, then disconnected the bridge.
2. Next Pulled fuse #27 in the engine compartment and pulled both silver circuit breakers in the fuse box behind the passenger seat.
3. The fuse and the circuit breakers were left out for 24 hours since I did not need to drive her.
4. Next, replaced the fuse and circuit breakers.

Now the roof and windows operate as they did previously.

Thanks so much for all of the suggestions. If the top and windows fail again, I will let you know. While the above was happening, I purchased a new RDM (15134308) as a backup.

Thanks again -- this Forum is the absolute greatest because of our members!!!

 

[SoCADesertRat]

NOTHING! You reset RDM, good for you!!

REPLACE 125 amp fuse!!!

Dicktator

Dicktator, do you mean replace it like in put it back in or replace it like buy a new one? If I should buy a new one, where do I go for the fuse -- Dealer, NAPA, etc.??

Thanks. Gib