[04 Silver Bullet]

I've had my R a little over a month and I've been chipping away at the preventive measure projects that this great group on the forum has made me aware of.
Today was the ABS heat shield, "Dicktator" shift kit, and a beefy crossmember.
Tomorrow? The radiator support bracket.
My question is this :
I've read that in the warmer climates overheating can be an issue. Their must be something to it as their are larger and more efficient fans and radiators available. Not to mention the specialist that can tweak the temps that trigger the fan.
I'd like to be bulletproof before next summers Fl heat kicks in.
What have you southern guys experienced with the overheating, and what did you do to deal with the problem.
Thanks Ed

 

[N2CRUZN]

Call Mike at Simple Engineering he has the perfect fix for your R Mike is a R owner as well Mike has everything you need for your overheating issue and Welcome To The Family

 

[RedHotSSR]

Over Heating

After purchasing my R I thought it was running hot e.g. 210 - 220 degrees BUT found out this is a normal run temp for the R ( 5.3 L ) I wasn't comfortable with that info so I took it in for a performance tune. The shop also adjusted the fan on / off control and installed a new lower opening thermostat. Tuned the R to the new temps and I have never run over 200 degrees even in bumper to bumper traffic when attending Cruisin the Coast in Mississippi. Normally running under 180 - 190 now. Oh and with the stock fan.

 

[04 Silver Bullet]

Call Mike at Simple Engineering he has the perfect fix for your R Mike is a R owner as well Mike has everything you need for your overheating issue and Welcome To The Family

Got it !!
Just got a delivery from Mike and I totally get his value and importance to the group...
My question is to the Forum with similar issues and what they are doing to rectify the problem.
Mike has what I may need BUT what do I need ?

 

[Guzzi Guy]

Just call Mike. He's a wealth of knowledge so if you explain your needs and what you want to do with your R, I'm sure he can steer you in the right direction.

Dave

 

[04 Silver Bullet]

Just call Mike. He's a wealth of knowledge so if you explain your needs and what you want to do with your R, I'm sure he can steer you in the right direction.

Dave

Thanks !!
But I'm feeling a little foolish/curious why similar warmer climate states haven't chimed in ??

 

[BlueStreak]

Thanks !!
But I'm feeling a little foolish/curious why similar warmer climate states haven't chimed in ??

OK! I am in CA and have driven in all states except AK and HI. I had an issue with overheating early on and it was suggested that I try Mike's fan. I did so and that seemed to fix thing for quite a while. After I got over 100k moles I started having issues again and called Mike to ask about it. He worked with me as we tried new thermostat and then discovered that I had a leaky recovery tank, Once that was replaced things were good again ;for a while. The next time I had an issue Mike came to the rescue once again with a new radiator, thinking that the existing unit was clogging up. When i got the dealer to put in Mike's radiator I requested the old one be save for analysis. When i picked it up and got it home for inspection I just took a picture and sent it to Mike. It was obvious that the space between the A/C condenser and the radiator had been packed with dirt and pollen and was cutting down the available cooling fins by nearly 50 percent. Mike agreed. That was at roughly 175k miles. Between then and now at 233K mile I have had another recovery tank go bad and put in the metal one from Dragon2U, but that was before Mike's improved recovery tank became available. It will go in my second :blue: when it becomes necessary. It only has 53k miles on it.

Hope this long winded explanation is helpful.

 

[Dr Who]

Thanks !!
But I'm feeling a little foolish/curious why similar warmer climate states haven't chimed in ??

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Savannah gets hot and when I got my R and saw it running at 230, I decided to see about improving on that. I added a high volume fan and a transmission cooler from Mike. Never went over 210. Then a tune by Jeremy got me down to a pretty constant 200. An improvement for sure.

 

[Mike in AZ]

Thanks !!
But I'm feeling a little foolish/curious why similar warmer climate states haven't chimed in ??

I have a supercharged 6 liter with an automatic and have been operating in Phoenix for many years. The only time that I started having issues was when the temperature got above 115 on my DIC. That's when I had to go to the bigger radiator. Up to that point, the stock radiator and Z-06 fan was all I needed. The supercharger heat exchanger is about 1.75" thick and sits in front of the condenser.... Blocking airflow..... It was leaving on my trip to Penticton last year when the DIC read 118 and my engine temp wanted to climb as soon as I went up a hill on the highway.... I had to turn off the AC to avoid overheating. Changed the radiator this spring and all is fine.

All you need to do for your SSR in Florida is drive it..... The temperatures in Florida never get high enough to worry about anything, unless you have done some underhood mods. The only time you will see temp swings is when you get into stop and go traffic.

The cooling system is designed to operate "normally" up to temperatures of 226 without any concern whatsoever. This is the temperature point that the cooling fan comers on. REmember also a that the fan is switched off at 35mph.

Most people use the AC system logic to keep the engine cool..... That software will turn on the cooling fan any time the system pressure gets to "normal" operating pressures. Remember that the fan is switched off at 35? That goes for the AC logic too.

Don't sweat it, just drive it. If you don't like the temp swings, turn on the AC. You will be astonished at the difference it makes.

If you get an overheating condition in traffic and the AC does not control it, you need to replace the fan. It's dead (or getting that way). The first symptoms are intermittent operation.... Overheating in traffic occasionally and checking good when you test it in the shop...... Then it dies altogether.

No worries,

Mike

 

[abadssr]

You just need a fan from mike and then a tune to reset the temp controls

 

[Dicktator]

I have fans in stock or will soon, they are on the way.

Suggest a tune from Jeremy, Lutz Florida and Mike's fan, your good!

Do some reading about "cooling" on SSR How to Library will help you understand the HEAT problem and it is everywhere.

Link: SSR How to Library

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=3EF39D9F5ADCE5E5!853&cid=3EF39D9F5ADCE5E5

You live one town away from me.

Dicktator

1. OEM V/W Fan.
2. Mike's Fan, USA Made, 30% more cfm.

 

[04 Silver Bullet]

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.
Sorry for the pesty questions but your advice is my first line defense between me and the tow truck :grin2::wink2:

 

[xoxoxoBruce]

After purchasing my R I thought it was running hot e.g. 210 - 220 degrees BUT found out this is a normal run temp for the R ( 5.3 L ) I wasn't comfortable with that info so I took it in for a performance tune. The shop also adjusted the fan on / off control and installed a new lower opening thermostat. Tuned the R to the new temps and I have never run over 200 degrees even in bumper to bumper traffic when attending Cruisin the Coast in Mississippi. Normally running under 180 - 190 now. Oh and with the stock fan.

Be careful with the thermostat, if the temperature is too low the electronic engine management will not operate properly.
Check out this thread, especially post #22.

 

[Dicktator]

You noticed that when you read the Cooling on SSR How to, that fan doesn't run above 35mph.

You also read that engine temp MUST be 187 for ECM to set air/fuel mix.

Life of the OEM Fan? I will set one aside for RedHotSSR so when yours fails, and it will.

Dicktator

 

[04 Silver Bullet]

I have fans in stock or will soon, they are on the way.

Suggest a tune from Jeremy, Lutz Florida and Mike's fan, your good!

Do some reading about "cooling" on SSR How to Library will help you understand the HEAT problem and it is everywhere.

Link: SSR How to Library

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=3EF39D9F5ADCE5E5!853&cid=3EF39D9F5ADCE5E5

You live one town away from me.

Dicktator

1. OEM V/W Fan.
2. Mike's Fan, USA Made, 30% more cfm.

Dick, I PM'd you yesterday about the fan.
Also I'm changing out the lower radiator bracket and I see I have no air dam. Do you have that or should I order from Mike ??
Thanks

 

[Dicktator]

Yes, I have Air Dam in stock.

Sorry about delay in answer.

Dicktator