My local dealer told me they just sold their new red 04 recently to a customer with a GM rebate for around 28K. That $7500 dealer money is getting them down there plus the usual markup and I'm told that the $7500 doesn't include the 3% holdback money,,,,,so there is another discount. Also, I'm told you can apply the $1500 GM loyalty money too. I recently posted wanting to buy a used SSR for mid twenties and was chastised a bit about needing to look at "salvage yards" and such.......that no one on this site would be willing to sell for that "ridiculous of a low price"! I understand and appreciate that the owners of SSR's do not want to accept this situation but it is fact based. I was lucky and sold my 03 early and want another. $25k for a low mile used is very realistic. A site member, jericbarg, responded to my request willing to sell his 03 with 2900 miles for $25k. I responded to his emails and called him but got no response back. He posted just after that it was sold. I am still wanting to buy one in the current market but I think they are not at the bottom. I know of a low mile 04 Tbird that just sold for $26k. I think SSR's are following the same TBird pattern. I am located in Texas and please email me at [email protected]. Thank you.