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·I saw some one on this site had a supperchager i have some questions. does it set you back in the seat and how much does it effect mileage, cost and where to buy one
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Supper Charger?
You can read all about it by using the search feature at this site. Cost runs around $6000 or so and adds about 100hp best as I can remember. I don't think it affects gas mileage at all, unless you have your foot in it! I believe that for that kinda money that I can trade up to the 2005 with a 6.0 and have a year newer model.
nivlag said:
You can read all about it by using the search feature at this site. Cost runs around $6000 or so and adds about 100hp best as I can remember. I don't think it affects gas mileage at all, unless you have your foot in it! I believe that for that kinda money that I can trade up to the 2005 with a 6.0 and have a year newer model.
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Here's one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2483231893&category=5348
This supercharger is only 45k - and they throw in a SSR too:
(Auction ends: Ends Jul-04-04 13:37:46 PDT )
This vehicle only has 741 miles on it, so it is still brand new. This is our #1 of 12 "Yenko/Wildfire" series SSR trucks that we are building. Being #1, many hours of R&D went into the development of this vehicle.
We started with the suspension. It has Ground Force lowering springs in front and rear to give it a much better stance as well as enhancing the handling. We than added a set of Budnik "Gasser" wheels to help out the looks.
It was then sent to the paint shop where the show winning painter Bobby Wiles did his magic! This truck was factory black. Bobby made it a 2-tone black/white paint job with red pin striping. We then added the "Yenko/Wildfire" flaming logo to it. Last, we addressed the power department.
A polished Magnacharger Supercharger was added to really wake this beast up. A set of Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges were added to monitor the supercharger. We also added a Bassani muffler to enhance the sound. It now has about 450hp, so it runs every bit as good as it looks.
Don Yenko was a personal friend of mine back in the 60's and 70's until his death in 1987. The "Yenko/Wildfire" series vehicles were inspired by and are being built as a tribute to Don Yenko. We have already completed the 450hp "Yenko/Wildfire" Camaro Z28 and 600hp "Yenko/Wildfire" Corvette. The SSR is the next line of vehicles we will be transforming. We have over $65,000 invested in this vehicle. This is a NO RESERVE auction, so bid with confidence.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2483231893&category=5348
This supercharger is only 45k - and they throw in a SSR too:
(Auction ends: Ends Jul-04-04 13:37:46 PDT )
This vehicle only has 741 miles on it, so it is still brand new. This is our #1 of 12 "Yenko/Wildfire" series SSR trucks that we are building. Being #1, many hours of R&D went into the development of this vehicle.
We started with the suspension. It has Ground Force lowering springs in front and rear to give it a much better stance as well as enhancing the handling. We than added a set of Budnik "Gasser" wheels to help out the looks.
It was then sent to the paint shop where the show winning painter Bobby Wiles did his magic! This truck was factory black. Bobby made it a 2-tone black/white paint job with red pin striping. We then added the "Yenko/Wildfire" flaming logo to it. Last, we addressed the power department.
A polished Magnacharger Supercharger was added to really wake this beast up. A set of Autometer boost and fuel pressure gauges were added to monitor the supercharger. We also added a Bassani muffler to enhance the sound. It now has about 450hp, so it runs every bit as good as it looks.
Don Yenko was a personal friend of mine back in the 60's and 70's until his death in 1987. The "Yenko/Wildfire" series vehicles were inspired by and are being built as a tribute to Don Yenko. We have already completed the 450hp "Yenko/Wildfire" Camaro Z28 and 600hp "Yenko/Wildfire" Corvette. The SSR is the next line of vehicles we will be transforming. We have over $65,000 invested in this vehicle. This is a NO RESERVE auction, so bid with confidence.
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·After having spent the money, I am not an advocate for the purchase $6500 plus installation $500 or more. The hp increase has problems due to the amount of heat in the engine compartment.
Do an engine replacement, buy an 05 with the LS2 and a six speed for more fun then if you have left over money still put a supercharger on it and NOS too
Do an engine replacement, buy an 05 with the LS2 and a six speed for more fun then if you have left over money still put a supercharger on it and NOS too
Hey guys:
Go to the source:
www.magnusonproducts.com
I drove an SSR with the supercharger (Jerry Magnuson's personal SSR) for a day and it was a dream. Like any other forced induction system, the heavier yer' on the gas the faster the mileage goes away. If you can stay off the boost, mileage might get a hair better.
We're building an SSR for G.M and our client Tractech (Detroit Locker) for the SEMA Show and this will be our first stop! We'll then fabricate 2" headers, suspension, inner fender panel work in front to get it down, 18" Halibrands, and a lot of parts & pieces will be available through Axiom Design Solutions in December.
Go to the source:
www.magnusonproducts.com
I drove an SSR with the supercharger (Jerry Magnuson's personal SSR) for a day and it was a dream. Like any other forced induction system, the heavier yer' on the gas the faster the mileage goes away. If you can stay off the boost, mileage might get a hair better.
We're building an SSR for G.M and our client Tractech (Detroit Locker) for the SEMA Show and this will be our first stop! We'll then fabricate 2" headers, suspension, inner fender panel work in front to get it down, 18" Halibrands, and a lot of parts & pieces will be available through Axiom Design Solutions in December.
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as someone who was so gong ho in getting a supercharger in the beginning, I have to say that I have backed off. Lingenfelter ( I don't want anyone else) charges around $9000 for the magnacharger kit and I'm not sure the rest of the car can support added power(can it?) .
But my main reason is that this car is fine with this much power. It's a unique car for it's styling and the top. It has plenty of power for everyday use and I don't ever think I'll be racing it. Just my 2c......
But my main reason is that this car is fine with this much power. It's a unique car for it's styling and the top. It has plenty of power for everyday use and I don't ever think I'll be racing it. Just my 2c......
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Small stuff counts 2...
Ya' know u can do small inexpensive stuff that add sum HP 2 ur ride. Basic things like a K&N filter & Programmer cost under $500.00 and it can add as much as 50-60hp or more. Thats CHEAP HP. :thumbs :yesnod
Happy 4th of July 2 ALL!!! :flag
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Ya' know u can do small inexpensive stuff that add sum HP 2 ur ride. Basic things like a K&N filter & Programmer cost under $500.00 and it can add as much as 50-60hp or more. Thats CHEAP HP. :thumbs :yesnod
Happy 4th of July 2 ALL!!! :flag
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Cheap Horsepower
This is all bologna. All these aftermarket items like exhaust systems, air filter upgrades, intake modifications, etc. add minimal real usable horsepower at the back wheels! The cheapest horsepower per dollar spent is by far achieved by supercharging. These other add-ons and mods may help a little, but you can't beat the blower! Supercharging isn't cheap, but the benefits are unmatched. Check out Kenne-Belle's web site for more info from the engineering types. :yesnod
This is all bologna. All these aftermarket items like exhaust systems, air filter upgrades, intake modifications, etc. add minimal real usable horsepower at the back wheels! The cheapest horsepower per dollar spent is by far achieved by supercharging. These other add-ons and mods may help a little, but you can't beat the blower! Supercharging isn't cheap, but the benefits are unmatched. Check out Kenne-Belle's web site for more info from the engineering types. :yesnod
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Bolonie?????
Bologna, salami, pastrami....whatever. I'm well aware of the benefits of forced induction applications. I've built many a huffer motor in my lifetime. I agree that u get a bunch a bang outta'm. Some of my most forgettable speeding tickets were as a result of havin 700+HP on the street/highway. Also we were running a TAD back in the 80's, very successfully in Region 2 for NHRA.
What I think u missed is that many folks can't/won't spend $3-9K on a street setup. All I was trying 2 do was 2 help members get a little more kick 4 their $$$'s.
I think we both know that it's NEVER jus a simple bolt on deal, with no problems down the road. A lot of people jus don't understand the flow thru effect of increasing the HP/Torque loads without makin other important changes/upgrades. At least with the little changes, they get 2 feel the difference n still can keep their baby alive n well, 4 a long time.
Bologna, salami, pastrami....whatever. I'm well aware of the benefits of forced induction applications. I've built many a huffer motor in my lifetime. I agree that u get a bunch a bang outta'm. Some of my most forgettable speeding tickets were as a result of havin 700+HP on the street/highway. Also we were running a TAD back in the 80's, very successfully in Region 2 for NHRA.
What I think u missed is that many folks can't/won't spend $3-9K on a street setup. All I was trying 2 do was 2 help members get a little more kick 4 their $$$'s.
I think we both know that it's NEVER jus a simple bolt on deal, with no problems down the road. A lot of people jus don't understand the flow thru effect of increasing the HP/Torque loads without makin other important changes/upgrades. At least with the little changes, they get 2 feel the difference n still can keep their baby alive n well, 4 a long time.
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I am interested in knowing more about this cumputer to make the engine mods. how do they work and where do you by one. I think i am just looking for some tips on how to increase proformance without spending 4k-10k .
I am interested in knowing more about this cumputer to make the engine mods. how do they work and where do you by one. I think i am just looking for some tips on how to increase proformance without spending 4k-10k .
Hey guy,ssr17of25 said:
What's a 'flow through' effect?
I was the first in the 6 second bracket (NHRA record) with Mongoose driving my Top/fuel Dragster...I've done a few supercharger motors too. My comapny also launched the Vortec Supercharger Company, Magnuson, and Whipple. I'm what you might call an educated specialist on supercharging.
Obviously, you are not up to speed on the CARB approved supercharger systems from Magnuson and others. The 'bolt-on' is as advertised and puts out 100 HP (you want to see the dyno tests? call Magnuson and you'll get 'em) without any damage to engine parts or needed alterations. Many of Magnuson systems are available from OE sources (G.M., Toyota/TRD, and etc.).
Why would you think Magnuson warranties his system for 50,000 miles if the Eaton blower provides any extra strain....and why would Jaguar, M/B, Roush , and Ford run these units if they provide 'down the road' problems.
You want noticable power? It doesn't come cheap! Find somebody who makes 2" headers and you'll pick up 30 HP (I've seen it on Dutweiler's engine dyno for myself). We'll (Axiom Design Solutions) have 'em ready in December.
It costs a lot of money to create a CARB approved intercooled supercharger kit with hundreds of hours of emissions design and a 'nail-biting' final test @ CARB test cell. When it's all over and ready for delivery, a program like this costs over $400,000 to design and produce. THAT's why it's expensive....and very reliable!
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SPEED & THE SSR
Gentlemen. let's go easy with the lunch meat.....everyone is entitled to an opinion and "speed" is somewhat subjective.
I really think if someone wants a fast car (0 to 60 times) they need to buy the Corvette or Viper.....not the SSR.
You'd have to pull way too much weight (the enemy of speed) off the SSR to really make it "fast".
Dyno's are great, but they really don't measure real world (drag, suspension torgue, actual transfer of ponies to a real road surface, etc.). The SSR is too heavy, too non-aeordynamic, etc. to truly ever be fast......and I don't think that's what it was originally designed for.
Yes, a few more gadgets under the hood and a louder exhale......adds to the thrill and enjoyment of driving the SSR..........but it still ain't fast in the true sense. Even adding 95 horsepower won't put it in the truly "fast" category.
Everyone is entitled to put a different price on horsepower. To some, just saying it's "supercharged" is worth the investment. Nor should we discount those who derive some benefit (imagined or real) for adding the lower cost bolt-ons to maybe goose a few more ponies. Again, to each their own and lunch meat shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Just enjoy the truck....the design, the uniquencess, the technology, the open air and the attention it gets. Again, if this isn't enough and you need real speed....get the new C6 Corvette for close to the same price.
Enjoy the SSR and drive Safe.
CARNUT
Gentlemen. let's go easy with the lunch meat.....everyone is entitled to an opinion and "speed" is somewhat subjective.
I really think if someone wants a fast car (0 to 60 times) they need to buy the Corvette or Viper.....not the SSR.
You'd have to pull way too much weight (the enemy of speed) off the SSR to really make it "fast".
Dyno's are great, but they really don't measure real world (drag, suspension torgue, actual transfer of ponies to a real road surface, etc.). The SSR is too heavy, too non-aeordynamic, etc. to truly ever be fast......and I don't think that's what it was originally designed for.
Yes, a few more gadgets under the hood and a louder exhale......adds to the thrill and enjoyment of driving the SSR..........but it still ain't fast in the true sense. Even adding 95 horsepower won't put it in the truly "fast" category.
Everyone is entitled to put a different price on horsepower. To some, just saying it's "supercharged" is worth the investment. Nor should we discount those who derive some benefit (imagined or real) for adding the lower cost bolt-ons to maybe goose a few more ponies. Again, to each their own and lunch meat shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Just enjoy the truck....the design, the uniquencess, the technology, the open air and the attention it gets. Again, if this isn't enough and you need real speed....get the new C6 Corvette for close to the same price.
Enjoy the SSR and drive Safe.
CARNUT
CARNUT, I Agree with You 100%!
Amen, You are totally correct! The SSR wasn't designed nor engineered to be a really fast car. Yes, you can improve its performance over stock but it's never going to be a truly fast vehicle. Enjoy it for what is: a unique, good-looking, fun cruiser, that brings smiles from eveyone, especially the driver! Just don't engage in a liitle competition with the 16 yr. old neighbor kid driving his dad's 3.5 liter V-6 Nissan Altima cause he's gonna beat you. There are a lot of stock "ricers" on the street that are faster than our SSR's but they sure aren't as cool looking, or as fun driving, or as attention getting, as our "rides". I knew this on the front-end when I bought mine, so it's no surprise. If it was "fast" that I was looking for I would have bought something else. Just my opinion and I could be wrong. Hope everyone has a fun and safe 4th. of July while out "cruising" in their SSR's.
Amen, You are totally correct! The SSR wasn't designed nor engineered to be a really fast car. Yes, you can improve its performance over stock but it's never going to be a truly fast vehicle. Enjoy it for what is: a unique, good-looking, fun cruiser, that brings smiles from eveyone, especially the driver! Just don't engage in a liitle competition with the 16 yr. old neighbor kid driving his dad's 3.5 liter V-6 Nissan Altima cause he's gonna beat you. There are a lot of stock "ricers" on the street that are faster than our SSR's but they sure aren't as cool looking, or as fun driving, or as attention getting, as our "rides". I knew this on the front-end when I bought mine, so it's no surprise. If it was "fast" that I was looking for I would have bought something else. Just my opinion and I could be wrong. Hope everyone has a fun and safe 4th. of July while out "cruising" in their SSR's.
Supercharging
Success! After many subtle attempts, I finally was able to get a good discussion going from intelligent contributors concerning supercharging.
Thanks for all the input. There was no disrespect intended on my part. (I still wish someone would steer me in the right direction for improving my exhaust system. Someone please tell me how the Magnaflow system sounds! Any more info would be greatly appreciated.)
Success! After many subtle attempts, I finally was able to get a good discussion going from intelligent contributors concerning supercharging.
Thanks for all the input. There was no disrespect intended on my part. (I still wish someone would steer me in the right direction for improving my exhaust system. Someone please tell me how the Magnaflow system sounds! Any more info would be greatly appreciated.)
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i am building an ssr for '04 sema show as a gm partner vehicle. it will feature
a turbo charger kit by HAHN RACECRAFT . have worked with Bill Hahn on 4
other GM projects and the results have been great. typical increases are
65% over stock. also am working with Bruce Horky on a wood bed floor
kit with polished stainless strips .
a turbo charger kit by HAHN RACECRAFT . have worked with Bill Hahn on 4
other GM projects and the results have been great. typical increases are
65% over stock. also am working with Bruce Horky on a wood bed floor
kit with polished stainless strips .
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SSR style...
I agree too that the SSR was never manufactred to be a really fast vehicle. It'd have 'glass fenders, NO retractable top, etc etc (all the reasons I wanted the SSR) to keep the weight down...
I do enjoy pulling up next to a ricer and looking DOWN into their ride - I don't even want to mess with the SSR 'stance' - I LIKE the ass end to be up high...
For serious speed I have a first year release Kawasaki ZL900 Eliminator - 1985 model - #389 off the Lincoln Nebraska production line: 0 - 60 = 2.2 Mid to high 10's on the 1/4 - STOCK as the day it came off the line, and this bike still gets more that it's share of attention. Like my SSR will for years to come...
Have a great 4th - and enjoy this LONG weekend...
I agree too that the SSR was never manufactred to be a really fast vehicle. It'd have 'glass fenders, NO retractable top, etc etc (all the reasons I wanted the SSR) to keep the weight down...
I do enjoy pulling up next to a ricer and looking DOWN into their ride - I don't even want to mess with the SSR 'stance' - I LIKE the ass end to be up high...
For serious speed I have a first year release Kawasaki ZL900 Eliminator - 1985 model - #389 off the Lincoln Nebraska production line: 0 - 60 = 2.2 Mid to high 10's on the 1/4 - STOCK as the day it came off the line, and this bike still gets more that it's share of attention. Like my SSR will for years to come...
Have a great 4th - and enjoy this LONG weekend...
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